KelliH and others Banned? Why?

[Junkyard]

Interesting, that is about all I can say at the moment. Quite a surprise huh?

 

[Th3HiddenGecko]

She obviously is not sticking to her word of voluntarily leaving.......

If people keep getting banned like this I know a few others that will voluntarily leave.

 

[norsmis]

If people keep getting banned like this I know a few others that will voluntarily leave.

I believe Rich already said something about birds of a feather........ We don't need them here if thats how they feel....

 

[varnyard]

If people keep getting banned like this I know a few others that will voluntarily leave.

Well, we all have a free choice, don't we? IMO, if they leave after all of these facts have been proven/known, then bye!

 

[WebSlave]

If people keep getting banned like this I know a few others that will voluntarily leave.

I take it you read the rest of this thread. Are you saying that if those people said those things to and about you, and you were in my shoes, you would just allow them to stay?

 

[The NY Gecko]

If people keep getting banned like this I know a few others that will voluntarily leave.

And go where? I've already registered there and from what I gather, its a proverbial shit hole. There are a handful of individuals I have respect for on there, and one of the banned ones isnt on that list, namely JEANNE.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

I think the banning was unwarranted. So your feelings are hurt, big deal. They didn't try and damage the site, and were nothing but professional while on this site. How many employees do you think go out after work with a few buddies, and bash their employers. Doesn't mean they get the boot, for talking crap outside of work.

Pretty much all of them if their employers happen to find out.

You can spin this any way you want folks but, bottom line, it is Rich's site....his personal property....and he can run it any way he chooses. Personally, I would probably have reacted similarly

 

[varnyard]

And go where? I've already registered there and from what I gather, its a proverbial hole. There are a handful of individuals I have respect for on there, and one of the banned ones isnt on that list, namely JEANNE.

Well, there you go. I am more than sure there are more than you that feel this way.

Hold on, let me go look in the mirror.

 

[ravensgait]

"""Come on people...tell me that you have never once talked about someone behind there backs?""

I'm sure everyone is guilty of talking about someone else behind that persons back. And every now and then you get caught with hoof in mouth and take the heat for what you said. Randy

 

[WebSlave]

Just for the record, I have refunded what I think are accurate prorated amounts for the outstanding advertising expenditures (sponsor links and in one case banner advertising) to all parties who have been removed from this site.

 

[Roy Munson]

Maybe Rich Z. is a monster and I'm naive, but I didn't like some of the comments posted about him over there, particularly those by Ian S. indicating his lack of worth to herpers.

I've had a few dealings with Rich, starting with a phone call to him when I was getting back into corn snakes. I didn't make the connection that he was THE Rich Z. I had seen referenced in corn guides from the early nineties. I also had no idea of the scope of his operation. I guess I had an image of some dedicated hobbyist, hanging out in his snake shed, waiting for the phone to ring. Our conversation did nothing to dispel my misconception as he was available, very friendly, helpful, and patient despite my noobness as a purchaser. He made a dedicated customer out of me, and since then, I've considered him my most important "partner" in building my dream breeding collection. I became a little more savvy, and haven't had to phone him again, and the relationship has never been personal. But it's been exceedingly professional. As a cornsnakes.com devotee, I can't thank him enough for that contribution to my hobby either.

Don't mistake this as butt-kissing. I've given Rich too many of my dollars to have to resort to words to accomplish this goal.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Just for the record, I have refunded what I think are accurate prorated amounts for the outstanding advertising expenditures (sponsor links and in one case banner advertising) to all parties who have been removed from this site.

Out of curiosity....where does the casualty list stand?

 

[420Geckos]

I think this whole situation is pathetic.... I only come here for the leo forum... Now you've removed it's cornerstone... I'm disappointed...

 

[Th3HiddenGecko]

And go where? I've already registered there and from what I gather, its a proverbial shit hole. There are a handful of individuals I have respect for on there, and one of the banned ones isnt on that list, namely JEANNE.

I didn't say they would go anywhere. I just said they would leave.

 

[Bill_Leverton]

I think this whole situation is pathetic.... I only come here for the leo forum... Now you've removed it's cornerstone... I'm disappointed...

Michael if you go to link to the back stabbing you will see she was leaving anyway......Once the site was up.

 

[WebSlave]

Maybe Rich Z. is a monster and I'm naive, but I didn't like some of the comments posted about him over there, particularly those by Ian S. indicating his lack of worth to herpers.

Yes, Ian S. is full of fire, now isn't he? I believe he told the audience over there that I told him to SHOVE IT concerning his $25 membership fee.

Here is the discussion unedited:

Keep your $25 at the end of the year. I really could not care less. Matter of fact, when I have time to do so, you will likely find yourself fined and suspended from this site.

Spare me... If I gave you warning points, you deserved them. If you don't like getting warning points, simply do not engage in activities that will likely warrant them.

"Ignorant"? Perhaps you need to look up the definition of that word. I am certain that I am not ignorant of the rules here and how to enforce them. However in your case, ignorance of the rules and willful violation of them will be treated in the same manner.

As for me owing you an apology, I sincerely doubt it........

This thread is beginning to have some members using some derogatory name calling within their posts. Fortunately for them I am just too tired and feeling lazy otherwise about 3 or so members would be getting warning points right now. I suggest you all take this as a warning to roll back the name calling. And I do reserve the right to go BACK and assess warning points if I decide to do so later on.................

Lmao!! You've already made an example of me so bring em on Rich. I'll take the points for everyone here thats been supposedly derogatory. What you did to me with your slanderous warning points is ignorant on your part. Even more aggitating,for you to make your above statements. Brother please... You never even honored me with a private message asking me to tone down, allthough there was nothing wrong with my posts. Shall we go back and read them??

Deserved!! Your full of it and you know it. I have had nothing but utter most respect for you and your community. Show me again where it was that I posted those rightfully issued warning points. What was I supposed to do, roll over!! Screw that and "screw you" if thats what was expected of me. I paid to be here and how dare you tell me not to engage when someone tried to steal from me. That statement puts you in the same category as Chris from TSE. You take my money so that I can post here and then tell me that I can't state my opinions. Now your stealing from me and I don't appreciate it!! Again I'll ask you to go back to my posts, Compare them to what folks have said after the 15 -20 sum odd people, as well as thousands of dollars owed, came out of the woodworks. Now all of a sudden someone calls Chris an "ass" multiple times and you post a public warning!! Please..... Once again jack go back and read my posts pal. I called Chris a "selfless human slime" and used your little symbol that you provide us with in order to keep my posts clean. I stuck up for your community, because you obviously have no spine to do so, prior to legal allegations against you. Don't you dare insult me telling me I need to look up the definition of ignorant. That, in it's own right shows the ignorance of you yourself. As well as having nothing better to defend your Lude acts against me. Your cronies followed your suite. Therefore I hold you responsible. You've become a puppet of the system congratulations!! How about you go back and look at my posts yet again,and if your any kind of a man, realize that your dead wrong and tell me how sorry you are if you wish to collect my 25 dollars at the end of the year. I will not be made an example of, by you or anyone else for that matter which is clearly the situation at hand whether or not your shallow ways agree or not.
-Sincerely-
Ian S.

Wow! I would personally like to thank you for showing your true colors before I supported more of your z06 payments.. You fall everything short of a class act and you are a disgrace to the community you created. Way to man up "bitch" Hows that for derogatory. No need to suspend. I won't be back, neither will my wife or our multiple friends that were basing subscriptions upon trial and error. I am forwarding this message to all of them. We all know that it doesn't take nearly as much money as you claim to run a web site such as this in comparison to your member count/dues ratio. We subscribed only due to the informative aspect which we can find on the world wide Webb anyways. Your threats only provide me with the involuntary confession as to how wrong you truly are. I insist you keep the $25 dollars. It's a small price to pay.as it was with Chris, in order to find out what thieves you are!! 1st amendment pal. I suggest you go read up on the constitution of the United states of America! Since you'd like to speak of ignorance, after all thats where this site is based out of.

 

[varnyard]

I think this whole situation is pathetic.... I only come here for the leo forum... Now you've removed it's cornerstone... I'm disappointed...

Correction, the corner stone removed itself. Well, Rich is the building, and the moderators are the pillars. We can rebuild.

 

[WebSlave]

I think this whole situation is pathetic.... I only come here for the leo forum... Now you've removed it's cornerstone... I'm disappointed...

I'm sorry, but that wasn't a cornerstone at all, apparently. Not sure what exactly you would call it, but probably not something very flattering at all, in my opinion.

 

[norsmis]

Rich places a lot of trust in us as moderators to help him run this site AS HE SEES FIT! How could anyone honestly say they would trust any of these people after seeing that? I don't know about any of you but I wouldn't trust any of these people again...

 

[shrap]

Well hopefully this unfortunate situation can come to an end and folks can just get on with their lives..... or we can always just fling poop at one another for eternity like baboons....