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KelliH and others Banned? Why?

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Laura,

It doesn't really matter who called who but really it is who said whatat this point about me anyway it is very valid.

I asked you over and over in CHAT what did you say and to who, all you had to say was "what did I say and to who", leaving me to think you had no idea what you had said about me anytime to everyone!

I know Kelli "called" you, but who called YOU and said what to you, Im pretty sure you did not on your own decide that I was the "mole, shark, or whatever term you would place here", Im thinking that it goes much further than you making up a lie about me but more that you were given bad information, but where did that info come from?

That had to come from someone to YOU, so who is that someone, who are you trying to protect?

Was it hmmmm or hmmmmm or .................

Who are you protecting
 
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Will you give me the IP of the "false user" so it can be looked up to see where the name originated from?
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Wendy, I am sorry you have difficulty with the concept of "betrayal", but no I am not providing any information to you at all. I have not looked at the member's IP address and have merely speculated that it MAY be bogus. I have no idea at all, but in any event I certainly am not going to get involved in your desperate attempt to prove that it was NOT you. Quite honestly, probably the best thing for me to do would be to delete that correspondence so curiosity won't get the better of me. That would end that problem once and for all.

Secondly, I have asked this before and will ask it again: What was the criteria used to select the people to go to Kelli's new site such that they felt comfortable bashing me, this site, and other members here feeling safe and secure that it was not going to get out? Obviously there were a number of people involved, yet they felt secure to bash freely with no thought given to the possibility that it may get out. They felt secure in the knowledge that the camaraderie of the group was of a single mind in what they all felt about this site. So when those invites were extended, what was the common interest that would (1) insure that such a dergoatory thread would meet with favor amount those members, and (2) anyone passing on that information would be considered such a dastardly "traitor"?

I would say it is pretty curious.
 
Rich hun I very well k now what BETRAYAL is, you are proving that to me now, its not a hard thing to figure out, you would rather protect liars and scum!

I never bashed you or your sire, get a grip, get real for once in your life please, its all in the files you posted! I never did a damn thing or said a damn thing about you or your site!

I did however get you a lot of traffic to the cham forum, you now have idiots over ther asking questions that I COULD ANSWER, but why, according to you that would be free advertising, and I want no part of that, I do not want or need anything from you than a place that I can have an adult conversation with adults about my feelings and thoughts about reptile care.

If that is not good enough for you, thats fine, go let your newbies go without answrs and kill their animals, thats what its all about right? Its not about letting people who can and will help do any of that, its all about post counts, hmmmm


Oh post counts and fake users, to hell with both of them, they are useless, you need people with good info and good information, well you don't you seem to want everythignbut the above,

You want scumm isn't that what faunadrama is all about? I didn't see it til now but my how the picture clears!
 
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You know, all of this is deja vous. I remember when Rich (and others) were banned form Kingsnake for speaking their minds, and Rich pitched such a fit that he even started and entire Forums called "WEB WARS" dedicated solely for the purpose of bad-mouthing Jeff B. and Kingsnake... all on a VERY public Forum. Rich was so indignant, he went out and purchased Kingsnakes.com just to be spiteful, and wound up getting himself sued over it!

For those of you who need a refresher, here are a couple of examples:



I am the one that started that stupid thread on GeckoFourm.net's TEST SITE, and YES, I regret doing so. We were "Mods Behaving Badly", but it was really nothing more than 'talking behind the teacher's back' when the teacher left the room. I can honestly say that I would have been more than willing to say it to the faces of those I said
"rub me the wrong way" here on Fauna if I thought I would be able to do so without fear of the ramifications.

So, if any of you have NEVER talked behind someone's back, then have at it... jump on the lynch mob's bandwagon and crucify us!!! I find it extremely difficult to take ANY of you 'holier than thou's' seriously when I just posted an example of others doing the very same thing... out of spite! I posted a sincere apology on GeckoForums.net the same day we were banned, and wrote Rich a personal apology, of which I have never had a response!

Isn't it time we just GET OVER IT????

It looks like there was betrayal of trust all the way around, and unless you are directly involved, or actually SAW the notorious thread on GeckoForums.net, everything is just second-hand information and pure speculation. NO TOS WERE VIOLATED BY US POSTING ON ANOTHER FORUM!

Come on, guys. Just let us take what is rightfully ours, and quit holding it hostage. You all have made it very clear you do not want us here, and we are more than willing to accommodate you. But how can we just disappear when there is a crude version of extortion going on? I know you all want this "drama" to continue... (heck, Fauna is noted for it's DRAMA, and it increases the hits on this website!) but I for one am sick of it and would like to move on.

Please. Just remove us from your "Good-Guy" program, since people saw fit to post we were Bad-Guys even if they have never done business with us. Please. Just let the folks who purchased their own Forums delete them. Please. Just let us take our photos and be done with it. The we will be on our way.

(BTW, if anyone is interesed in the REAL story behind the Hayden/Hammack Fund, let me know and I will be more than happy to set the record straight).
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Jeff and I have resolved our differences. It is history now. And no, I got that domain name as a joke. Actually I wanted to see if Jeff would actually ban the term "kingsnakes" as he did all my other domain names. :rofl: But things are OK now between us. We're just both hard heads and we know it.

And further the Web Wars forum was set up to take all the ongoing stuff about websites OUT of the BOI. Evidently you overlooked that little fact. There was more then just the issue between Jeff and I going on at that time.

And please, I am sure you scoured the site top to bottom to find it, but show me where I actually "bad mouthed" Jeff. Couldn't find it, could you. Sorry to disappoint, but no, I don't act like you on a public forum. And the reason I was banned from ks is also still here on this site in a thread. Certainly you found that, didn't you? It had absolutely NOTHING at all concerning what I did over on ks at all. Another oversight on your part, evidently. Or are you just being footloose and fancy free with the truth?

And this claim of yours that you HAD to go behind everyone's back to say what you felt because of fear of "ramifications" is pure unadulterated crap. As long as it was not done in a derogatory fashion with profanity and slurs, NO ONE HAS EVER HAD "RAMIFICATIONS" from speaking their mind here. I have taken it on the chin MANY times from MANY people for a lot longer then any other person would have done. It was only after it got to the point of obvious and blatant excess that there were "ramifications", and truthfully it wasn't until the point that everyone else thought the point had been long passed to stop it. So, Marcia, quite frankly, your lack of truthfullness is not very becoming of you.

And here you are telling us to "get over it" when you have been carrying this banner behind our backs for what, a year now?

But nice attempt at deflection on this thread, Marcia. Let me try one of my own.

Are you TRULY a Minister? I'm having difficult resolving that datum with the stuff you posted in that Kelli thread. Don't you have to pass any sort of tests or something like that? Aren't there some sort of qualifications people have to possess in order to become a minister? Or is it just a job that anyone can hold? Just curious.

Oh and while we are at it, PLEASE move on......
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Rich hun I very well k now what BETRAYAL is, you are proving that to me now, its not a hard thing to figure out, you would rather protect liars and scum!
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:rofl: :rofl:

Good one, Wendy. The only post I have from that person was right on the money. Not a lie at all from what I could tell. Certainly didn't seem like scum to me, either. Nope, I don't feel ashamed to not join the betrayal crowd at all.

So, I'm curious, what is the criteria you are using for calling that person a liar and scum, hmmm?
 
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Wendy, I am sorry you have difficulty with the concept of "betrayal", but no I am not providing any information to you at all. I have not looked at the member's IP address and have merely speculated that it MAY be bogus. I have no idea at all, but in any event I certainly am not going to get involved in your desperate attempt to prove that it was NOT you. Quite honestly, probably the best thing for me to do would be to delete that correspondence so curiosity won't get the better of me. That would end that problem once and for all.
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betrayal is your nest my past friend, and I am very hapy tat I do not need to live in that nest to survive!

You backstab those who support you and cover for the liars and scum, that seems to be all you are good at these days,

why don't you take a walk down memory lane, that day and time when you cared more about people than any stupid website!

can't remember those days? maybe you out to try!
 
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betrayal is your nest my past friend, and I am very hapy tat I do not need to live in that nest to survive!

You backstab those who support you and cover for the liars and scum, that seems to be all you are good at these days,

why don't you take a walk down memory lane, that day and time when you cared more about people than any stupid website!

can't remember those days? maybe you out to try!
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Wendy, please stop it. My wife is trying to sleep and I am laughing too hard.... And PLEASE proofread your posts........

"betrayal" :rofl: :rofl: "backstab" :rofl: :rofl: Did SHE really accuse ME of that? :rofl:
 
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Good one, Wendy. The only post I have from that person was right on the money. Not a lie at all from what I could tell. Certainly didn't seem like scum to me, either. Nope, I don't feel ashamed to not join the betrayal crowd at all.

So, I'm curious, what is the criteria you are using for calling that person a liar and scum, hmmm?
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Let's see:

someone that has to hid etheir tru name or identity
someone that makes up a fake user name
someone that goes to all the trouble to get a fake IP
someone that CANNOT OUT RIGHT TELL YOU WITH THEIR USERNAME

Don't you think that about sums it up, A person who is so much of a pice os shit that they cannot even tell you something in honesty of their own name?

Do you think that covers it, if not you can add to a piece of shit's list!
 
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Should we all run and hide now....:raspberry
 
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What a shame when someone is so pathetic that they have to substitute profanity for intellect. I reckon in this case Robin nobody expects better from you or your ilk.

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Rich I believe its trash day again....:hehe:
 
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