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Bad Guy Keven Vogenberger Misrepresenting Imports.

Liveforthis said:
idk but i'm not a jerk..
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But you are a troll. I'm generally not much for BOI conspiracies, but I'm betting dollars to donuts you have some form of relationship with Keven. Nobody else would be defending him this heavily with his track record and you still can't come up with an argument other than "You guys are being mean!"
 
Liveforthis said:
I just hate gang attacks vs one person thats why interviened. I'm a super nice person but i guess i willl never prove that here...
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Actually, you're showing yourself to be ignorant, willfully ignorant at this point, and really not caring about WHY the people are on Keven's butt. You just see what you think is a bunch of bullies and decide to lambast us.

Well, if THAT is how you're going to be, yes, you're not someone I want to deal with in a business sense.

And that's on you, not us.
 
So, there's a thing. Sometimes, when everyone says that someone is not good at what they're doing and probably straight up being deceptive to profit themselves, they probably are. It's sorta like when a bunch of people tell you that you're a jerk, it might be time for some inflection. This is why it would have been good if you had seen everyone being highly skeptical of Keven, if you would have looked at other threads which have sparked this skepticism instead of blindly attempting to defend him. Have you read his other issues or are you simply going by the Captive Born/Captive Bred issue?
 
Liveforthis said:
ur right hate me.
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How about you educate yourself. Since you're too lazy to actually do the research yourself, here are some of the BOIs against him.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653441 This one turned out to be false, but you can still see Keven's behavior.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652538 The first time Keven was brought up about questionable stock.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657967&highlight=Keven2 Keven defending a bad guy.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=658006&highlight=Keven2 Keven lashing out.

Please, do some research instead of blindly white knighting someone that doesn't need it.
 
your right i deserve it... i'm a bad guy...because I don't go along with the crowd i'm clearly garbage...congratz my own actions caused this lol.....super hateful judging by this person justifies my lord of the flies claims.
 
Liveforthis said:
cause I asked if what he said was a mistake?
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No. Because you keep claiming that people are unfairly ganging up on him when most of us are not.

Anyway, aside from you trying to deflect away from Keven. Let's get back to the topic and stop feeding the troll.

Keven REALLY needs to learn to properly represent his animals. He also needs to knock the immaturity and attacks against other people down, and actually care about his animals and take them to the vets ASAP when he tells people he will.
 
Fat Frog said:
Ran across this ad in the skink forum,he is clearly trying to sell imported blue tongue skinks as captive breds.





Keven2
Contributing Member

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Cape coral fl
Age: 45
Posts: 418
Name : Keven vogenberger
Keven2 is at reputation level -100 to -299
Trader Rating: (2)

Captive born baby halmahera blue tongue skinks 179.99
I have some adorable little captive bred baby halmahera blue tongue skinks available for 179.99 plus shipping. These little skinks are all feeding great and doing great. Please call 239-233-7585.
I provide live arrival guaranty and I guarantee my reptiles to be healthy upon arrival. Everything is shipped next day over night. If there is an issue with the animal upon arrival I need to be called within one hour of being delivered. I will need pictures of the animal with our shipping box taken however we want the pictures taken.by purchasing this animal you agree to my terms
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It seems to me that in a lot of Keven threads a lot of deflection takes place and intentional squabbles initiated to obscure content.
This thread is about misrepresentation of skinks.Regardless of the various personalities involved, if there is a possibility that the sales terms were inaccurate, saying something to that effect is what the BOI is for, as it may alert future buyers to carefully look at the terms used to describe the critters being sold.
Further, if the particular seller has had recent prior incidents of inaccuracies, a potential buyer may want to weigh the possibilities that the present transaction may have adverse issues.
 
This is crazy! I just love animals....I came here cause I love animals... All i wanna do is work with animals....people now hate me cause i asked if maybe this guy made a mistake....
 
Liveforthis said:
This is crazy! I just love animals....I came here cause I love animals... All i wanna do is work with animals....people now hate me cause i asked if maybe this guy made a mistake....
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I think this is intentional diversion from the subject of the thread.
 
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