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KezFarms - Im not happy
- Thread starter Corey Sawyer
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Stardust
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I agree to splitting the cost of the shipping. Corey does have three other snakes that were shipped also that he likes.
I hope you two can come to something and settle all this.
I hope you two can come to something and settle all this.
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I don't know if I "assumed," misread, or just had an out-of-brain experience, but I guess I was completely wrong about Robbie's method of shipment. I formally appologize and ask his forgiveness on the matter.
ScottsReptiles
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Corey Sawyer said:
Sounds like you are just trying to cause trouble Corey.
Rob Hill/Geckos Anonymous
Resident Pollmeister
Sounds to me as if Corey is just trying to get what he originally paid for and what was promised him by Robbie. As Corey said, if it was just about the money, he could have sold that snake a long time ago. It looks to me like it's about the principle, which in my book is pretty darn important.
At this point, should Corey take the money and run? I think so, but I can't blame him for trying to get what he originally paid for in the first place, a female Honduran.
But just remember guys, if Corey sends this male Honduran back to Kez and you see an ad for a proven female Honduran by them shortly after, if you choose to buy it, have those probes ready IMMEDIATELY.
Corey Sawyer
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No Scott, sounds like I want a female honduran. Just what I said in my first post.
If i want the money, I can sell the male for $75 and not have to loose shipping.
What I want is what I was promised (and what I bought), a female honduran.
Robert Keszey doesnt asnwer my emails anyways.
If i want the money, I can sell the male for $75 and not have to loose shipping.
What I want is what I was promised (and what I bought), a female honduran.
Robert Keszey doesnt asnwer my emails anyways.
ScottsReptiles
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Corey Sawyer said:
Robbie made a very decent offer that he did not need to do, you turned it down.
Honestly.. to me it sounds fishy that you seem to be afraid to send the snake back to him. Are you hiding something?
Corey Sawyer
Membre Aîné
His original offer was to get me a female.
He offered me $75 for a male honduran, would cost me $25 to ship it, after that I would have $50.
Why in the heck would i swap a male honduran for $50?
Your just grasping (spelling?) at straws here.
He offered me $75 for a male honduran, would cost me $25 to ship it, after that I would have $50.
Why in the heck would i swap a male honduran for $50?
Your just grasping (spelling?) at straws here.
Corey Sawyer
Membre Aîné
Unless you want to sell me a proven female honduran for $50shipped? If you do, I will take you up on the offer, and take Robbie up on his.
ScottsReptiles
New member
I do not have any hondurans to sell.
Sounds to me like you do not want him to see the snake.. I'll draw my own conclusions from that.
Sounds to me like you do not want him to see the snake.. I'll draw my own conclusions from that.
Corey Sawyer
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LOL straws man.
He sold me "2.2". I got 3.1. he agreed TO SEND ME ANOTHER FEMALE when he found one for sale, he never sent me one.
Would you take $50 for an adult male honduran (a nice one at that?)?
He sold me "2.2". I got 3.1. he agreed TO SEND ME ANOTHER FEMALE when he found one for sale, he never sent me one.
Would you take $50 for an adult male honduran (a nice one at that?)?
chachi
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You sound like a stubborn @ss!
Hello,
I have been lurking here for quite some time, but feel that a response is needed here.
Rob/Geckos.....you say Corey is holding out b/c of his principals. I think that's great, HOWEVER, it seems that Robbie has his principals too, which he has already said are being compromised. As far as I see it, Corey is too being thick-headed. As everyone has agreed here, this is a he said/he said thing. If that's true, then Corey is lucky to have the offer from Robbie. When a dispute arises, both sides are needed for a resolution. Here, only one side is bending while Corey "stands his ground". Obviously, Corey's response to Robbie's offer is unreasonable under the cirmcumstances.
Corey, as a business person, you should know that sometimes deals go sour, sometimes for the buyer and sometimes for the seller. Here, I would say that things have gone sour for the Seller. I must say that although I don't know you, you sound like a relentless pain with a sarcastic tone and quick to jump on anyone with a negative comment (as stated by others). I think the way you handled this entire situation was horrible. It's certainly not the way to handle a business. To the regular guy, you sound like a blithering idiot. Most of the others have said the same thing in a round about way, but I'll just come out and say it. Send the snake back or forever shut up about this.
Hello,
I have been lurking here for quite some time, but feel that a response is needed here.
Rob/Geckos.....you say Corey is holding out b/c of his principals. I think that's great, HOWEVER, it seems that Robbie has his principals too, which he has already said are being compromised. As far as I see it, Corey is too being thick-headed. As everyone has agreed here, this is a he said/he said thing. If that's true, then Corey is lucky to have the offer from Robbie. When a dispute arises, both sides are needed for a resolution. Here, only one side is bending while Corey "stands his ground". Obviously, Corey's response to Robbie's offer is unreasonable under the cirmcumstances.
Corey, as a business person, you should know that sometimes deals go sour, sometimes for the buyer and sometimes for the seller. Here, I would say that things have gone sour for the Seller. I must say that although I don't know you, you sound like a relentless pain with a sarcastic tone and quick to jump on anyone with a negative comment (as stated by others). I think the way you handled this entire situation was horrible. It's certainly not the way to handle a business. To the regular guy, you sound like a blithering idiot. Most of the others have said the same thing in a round about way, but I'll just come out and say it. Send the snake back or forever shut up about this.
Corey Sawyer
Membre Aîné
Its nice to see that you registered just to post about me, and didnt have the grit to post your name.
Im not sending back a male honduran for $50 ($75-25), for that I would rather keep it. However if Robert Keszey decided infact that he wanted to keep his word to our original agreement, I would send it back for a female (after, isnt that what I said in my first post).
Im not sending back a male honduran for $50 ($75-25), for that I would rather keep it. However if Robert Keszey decided infact that he wanted to keep his word to our original agreement, I would send it back for a female (after, isnt that what I said in my first post).
Corey Sawyer
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and yes i am a stubborn @$$.
Seamus Haley
Big Game Hunter
One thing...
Just one... maybe one and a half, I promise...
People keep saying that this situation is a "he said, she said" (common phrase, not reflective of the genders of the participants)...
I fail to see how that's the case however...
The animals are either 2.2 or they are 3.1, this is not an issue of opinion or conflicting accounts of phone conversations... It's simply an issue of a potential mistake with the sexing.
The animals are one gender or another, they do not change... it is easier to probe an animal as being female when it is not accidently than it is to probe an animal as being male when it is not... But you do not get eggs from a male snake.
Now, Cory has four animals... he's got a solid reputation despite the occasional bump and he's not a crook, he wouldn't risk damaging his ability to do business over a $75 snake... So it's safe to just forget about deliberate switches to try and defraud the seller. It seems an easy way to solve this would be to have an outside, trustworthy, uninvolved source just... Sex the snakes.
If they end up sexed by a reliable source as 3.1, then there's no reason Cory should have to pay shipping to get a replacement, initial contact about the mistake was made very early, he was just patient in posting the issue.
If they end up sexed by a reliable source as as 2.2, then he's got his foot in his mouth and some apologies to issue.
Someone made a mistake somewhere, just locate the error, assign responsibility (there should be no difficulty in this) and fix it. There has to be someone near Cory who Kez trusts to verify the genders.
Just one... maybe one and a half, I promise...
People keep saying that this situation is a "he said, she said" (common phrase, not reflective of the genders of the participants)...
I fail to see how that's the case however...
The animals are either 2.2 or they are 3.1, this is not an issue of opinion or conflicting accounts of phone conversations... It's simply an issue of a potential mistake with the sexing.
The animals are one gender or another, they do not change... it is easier to probe an animal as being female when it is not accidently than it is to probe an animal as being male when it is not... But you do not get eggs from a male snake.
Now, Cory has four animals... he's got a solid reputation despite the occasional bump and he's not a crook, he wouldn't risk damaging his ability to do business over a $75 snake... So it's safe to just forget about deliberate switches to try and defraud the seller. It seems an easy way to solve this would be to have an outside, trustworthy, uninvolved source just... Sex the snakes.
If they end up sexed by a reliable source as 3.1, then there's no reason Cory should have to pay shipping to get a replacement, initial contact about the mistake was made very early, he was just patient in posting the issue.
If they end up sexed by a reliable source as as 2.2, then he's got his foot in his mouth and some apologies to issue.
Someone made a mistake somewhere, just locate the error, assign responsibility (there should be no difficulty in this) and fix it. There has to be someone near Cory who Kez trusts to verify the genders.
Corey Sawyer
Membre Aîné
This goes for everyone, esp the people who email me.
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Corey Sawyer
Membre Aîné
Seamus,
I would pay for shipping if he REPLACED. Im not going to pay shipping to return a snake for a small amount cash however.
I would pay for shipping if he REPLACED. Im not going to pay shipping to return a snake for a small amount cash however.
Seamus Haley
Big Game Hunter
Sorry about the name thing Corey...
If it turns out the mistake was made by kez farms and that your assertation of the genders is correct, you really shouldn't have to pay shipping for a replacement animal as the mistake was made by the seller.
It does show a willingness to compromise in the way that you would be willing to do so if an exchange were made however.
Offhand... is there anyone within a reasonable distance who you belive Kez farms would trust to verify the genders of all four animals and remain impartial in their determination?
I still contend that a short drive at a convenient time and a quick post by someone outside of the issue saying 2.2 or 3.1 would clear the entire matter up pretty easily.
I also really don't see why so many people who are uninvolved got so heated about it... I mean... say what you think, sure but... Some people seemed particularly upset by the fact that a mistake was made by an as of yet unproven party.
If it turns out the mistake was made by kez farms and that your assertation of the genders is correct, you really shouldn't have to pay shipping for a replacement animal as the mistake was made by the seller.
It does show a willingness to compromise in the way that you would be willing to do so if an exchange were made however.
Offhand... is there anyone within a reasonable distance who you belive Kez farms would trust to verify the genders of all four animals and remain impartial in their determination?
I still contend that a short drive at a convenient time and a quick post by someone outside of the issue saying 2.2 or 3.1 would clear the entire matter up pretty easily.
I also really don't see why so many people who are uninvolved got so heated about it... I mean... say what you think, sure but... Some people seemed particularly upset by the fact that a mistake was made by an as of yet unproven party.
ScottsReptiles
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Corey Sawyer said:
he already made his offer.. you denied it.. so why is this thread still going on? Do you think the more you whine and complain the more he is going to change his mind? C'mon Corey.. you are really showing you age here (actual age and business age). I think I remember this same sort of behavior in high school.
Scott
Corey Sawyer
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Scott
He made his oringal offer, I accepted, he didnt follow through. I dont like his current offer, its not what we agreed to, and not worth it. $50 ($75 -$25) does not equal a proven honduran female.
This thread WAS dead until you posted.
Yes I am young, yes I have only been doing this for a few years. But I dont rip my customers off (hence notice no posts about me for bad animals?).
He made his oringal offer, I accepted, he didnt follow through. I dont like his current offer, its not what we agreed to, and not worth it. $50 ($75 -$25) does not equal a proven honduran female.
This thread WAS dead until you posted.
Yes I am young, yes I have only been doing this for a few years. But I dont rip my customers off (hence notice no posts about me for bad animals?).