Kingsnake problem, anyone else had this problem with classified account?

[Suncoast Herpetological]

I missed that part Ken but I definitely see your point

 

[Adam Block]

Someone whom JeffB must have REALLY pissed off just made me a very lucrative offer of my KINGSNAKES.COM domain name.

Yeah, I had many people contact me about kingsnakesucks.com and jeffbarringersucks.com! I thought long and hard about what to do and decided my best bet was to email Jeff and see if he'd grown up at all. I told him he could have the domains free of charge so they couldn't be used against him. Of course, in the spirit of any and all good pouters there was no responce!

he emails me saying my ad is pulled and he will refund my money in a few days. (whic I am still waiting for)

Seems to be a trend! Jeff is showing a habbit of offering a refund then not providing it! Oh well, I think karma is an amazing thing and it will catch up with the poor guy! Kinda feel sorry for the little fellow in all honesty.

"Sometimes the man makes the business, sometimes the business makes the man, when the latter happens it's bound to fall like a house of cards"

Only a matter of time before the way Jeff's treating what would have been loyal customers catches up with him. He will loose KS because of it. That's the reason I'm at peace with the situation, it's nice to sit back and watch a fool ruin himself.

 

[JuliusSqueezer]

So that I am clear on this...It is ok to mention another site if you are bashing it...but not ok to mention one that you like even if it is relevant to the thread? ok that's a fun rule...and some of you guys complained about our curse filter lol...I wasn't plugging ***.net though...I was just mentioning our own conflict with JB's site because actually that is the only experience I have with JB's site...My main reason for not liking it has nothing to do with politics. I just prefer the PHP type forums like this one and the one I'm not allowed to mention again over those annoying clutterd cluster threads...Is Kingsnakes.com going to have PHP? I'm assuming it's ok to mention a site that you yourself plugged the sale of earlier.

sorry again if I offended anyone. crunch crunch crunch <---me walking on eggshells.

 

[Supertramp1979]

I dont get it. Why so many posting rules? Cant do this cant do that. The constitution protects our right to say WHATEVER the hell we want. Why do swears get bleeped out? Are people that sheltered? I hate people like you. You dont like it take it down. And webslave your no better than jeff with all these rules. Why cant someone plug a site? Use a link? Post a KS "related" picture? You think that people will stop coming here? I think Ill open up a forum where you can say ANYTHING at ANYTIME without the fear of being deleted, or pulled due to a violation, not providing name. If someone wants to be anonomous, great. Were talking about the damn internet. You cant prove who I am so if I say im "abe lincoln" how the hell are you going to know anyway? Rules rules rules its not the 50s people. And if I get pulled I could care less because I dont even post here anyway.

 

[brucestephenson]

Are you really a member of the band Supertramp?

 

[Sasheena]

Rules and Profanity

The rules that Rich has on this site are part of why I very much like to come here. I am not forced to read or see profanity. I do not have to wade through a bunch of foul mouthed garbage to try to figure out a message. As a high school teacher, I hear enough profanity (but not in my classroom).. I don't choose to expose myself to it in my personal life. Rich has no compulsion just because he is in the United States to offer full free speech to everyone. It's his playground, he can make the rules.

Speaking of the rules, I am also grateful to them. from the full name rule down to the "post the whole ad, and not the link" rule are all worthwhile. The full name rule has kept me from doing business with bad guys, and you have no idea how frustrating it is to read a thread all about an advertisement, when the advert is completely inaccessible. You get two people debating over the condition of the animal in the photo, with two opposite viewpoints and you have to see the photo to make your own opinion, but if it's not available, then what good is the thread?

I've been to sites that allow any sort of language and so forth. I never went back. Heck, I use profanity from time to time, but you can be certain that EVERYONE listens when I do, because it's so rare for me to use it.

One of the best things about the internet... if you don't like a website, you don't have to go there.

 

[Supertramp1979]

Im a high school student myself. No I am not rick davies of supertramp ha. I do like them however, a lot. I would like to ask what Is so bad about profanity? Is it because the actual "sound" of the word is bad to your ears? Or is it because youve been instilled that its a bad word, so you automatically tense up when you hear it or read it? Whats in a word? Your own vision essentailly- its like you people make a bad word bad so you have something to know is "bad". Ive beed around the F word so much its lost its meaning, and it isnt a bad word anymore! You should really try it -all the bad words become unimportant. I dont swear much myself, but I do when im mad with no problem. Because im so used to these bad words I actually use them less than youd think. But I dont even care about the profanity. Im more interested in why you cant talk about other websites here? How many times a day do you think you are lied to by the internet? Such jealous politics on the internet though sigh

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

No one has any problem with talking about other websites here but this particular site sell advertising to help defray costs. Discussion is not an issue but shamelessly plugging your site and inviting people to come to your competing site without paying for the privelege of advertising here is.

If Bret wants to purchase a banner ad and invite people to come post on his classifieds i am pretty sure Rich would be happy to accomadate him.

As to the unrestrained swearing and sniping at each other...two words...pointless and counterproductive. I have been on sites like those and after a while it gets very old listening to everyone bash each others mother.

 

[Ken Harbart]

Ah, to be young and think you know it all.

The constitution protects our right to say WHATEVER the hell we want.

I find such ignorance of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by today's youth to be rather disturbing. The First Ammendment has no applicability whatsover to what's said on a privately owned and operated forum.

Even if we were talking about a government entity, the BoR does not afford you the right to say "whatever" you want. In other words, freedom of speech is not an absolute right. Rather, they can restrict cerain forms of speech if society as a whole has a compelling interest.

If the rules of this site are so unbearable to you, you are free to leave. As such, this thread is not the place for this discussion. If you want to discuss the merits of rules, do it in the feedback forums. Any furthere replies on this tangent in this thread will be deleted.

 

[Supertramp1979]

I know this will be deleted. But if it is, that means you read it, and thats all I want. I know the constitution doesnt protect freedom of speach in private areas. I was just asking why these guys in particular were uptight about it. If I thought constitution protected everything, public or private, I would be way more upset. Also, you guys say I get flagged for being off-topic...but you dont seem to realise that EVERYTHING on this bloody list is off topic to the original post!!! So did bob clark get flagged? Probably not. Sorry to waste your time anyway

 

[brucestephenson]

No, not a waste of time. I believe that a forum may at some point meet the criteria of being a publication or actually a public forum or media, if I'm remembering my civics and history classes correctly.
I know that there are probably some professors or even a constitutional attorney who may be listening. Am I too far off base?
We have certainly seen groups challenge newspapers, magazines, and television stations or even networks over refusal of advertising and prevail. Since the internet is only in it's infancy, I believe there will be some very interesting court challenges on the subject of banning and refusal of advertising in the near future.

 

[HerpVenue]

And if I get pulled I could care less because I dont even post here anyway.

thank you for posting on here about how you don't post here............................huh?

So did bob clark get flagged? Probably not.

Bob Clark's post give background to the poster. it is VERY relevant in my opinion.

If some known liar made a post about me. I would sure hope someone out there would give a little history on the poster.

p.s. not saying the original poster is a liar. I am just citing an example.

 

[Darin Chappell]

In referrence to Ritchie, it was written a few pages back, saying:

"All I've ever seen him do was pick the popular side then run the other person into the ground without ever asking questions of the person people seem to be on the side of."

Heh . . .heh

Well, I guess that particular fellow was not around when the "Thread of Infamy" came about and Neil, the once Golden Boy of the BOI, showed his true colors to us all. ANYTIME people say there is a clique here, or that we just look out for the popular opinion and only act according to the blowing of the wind, I just smile. I know right away that such statements can only be made from ignorance.

As to the rest of this back and forth, the original poster is not going to explain anymore of her situation than she has, folks. So, all the rest of these pages are summed up for me by three words:


Yadda, yadda, yadda!

 

[KJUN]

I was just asking why these guys in particular were uptight about it.

COPPA laws prevent a removal of all such rules by people like Rich and JeffB. Business practices require certain rules. People don't follow those rules, and they can get banned - from this site or Jeff's or.....

Is the anger here because Jeff does enforce his rules, doesn't enforce them, or Rich/Bob/Savannah have different rules on their site? LOL. The 1st Amendment was written to allow the public media to be the watchdogs of our government without getting imprisoned (sorry for the over-simplification, Ken, but I'm sure you understand. BTW, love the new signature). It has NOTHING to do with making someone like JeffB let anyone post anything they wanted in his classifieds ads. If that was the whole basis of this thread - which it apparentlyk wasn't - then most people would have ignored it.

I think this thread doesn't have a topic any more....lol.

 

[WebSlave]

Is the anger here because Jeff does enforce his rules, doesn't enforce them, or Rich/Bob/Savannah have different rules on their site? LOL.

Not quite. My attitude in this matter stems from the obvious fact that JeffB feels his "rules" encompass what people do on their own external sites as well as on his own kingsnake.com. His blocking my domain names stemmed entirely from that situation.

Besides stating what happened, it is not my intent to get into a pissing duel over the ethics of his position. If anything, it did more to spur me on to throw more effort into building this site then anything else I can think of, so quite likely it was a good thing to have happened.

However, from what I am reading here, other people seem to have issues with JeffB of a different sort. IMHO.

 

[HerpVenue]

I will say and promise, I solely own Morph Specialties, INC.

I found the above quote on the website of Morph Specialties. In it she has a special page for Bob Clarks so called harrasment. hhhhmmm Bob does not seem to have a special page for her. it kinda makes me wonder who s really harrassing who.

Registrant:
Morph Specialties
12856 S. Zuni rd.
Buckeye, Arizona 85326
United States

Registered through: Fat Boy Domains
Domain Name: MORPHSPECIALTIES.COM
Created on: 18-Aug-03
Expires on: 18-Aug-04
Last Updated on: 18-Sep-03

Administrative Contact:
Sernas, Savahhan [email protected]
Morph Specialties
12856 S. Zuni rd.
Buckeye, Arizona 85326
United States
(602) 206-6919

This is the registration information on the website name of Morph Specialties.
It is interesting to note that she does not know how to spell her name.
Interesting also that the phone number given is a cell phone.

Well I checked out the address and came up with this
Jamie St Vincent
12856 S Zuni Rd
Buckeye, AZ 85326
(623) 386-4558


Also I did a search for a Savannah Sernas in Buckeye........Came up with NOTHING

Also I did a search for this corporation through the website of the
Arizona Corporation Commission
State of Arizona Public Access System
I found no such corporation

DISCLAIMER The above information is not a violation of any privacy act. It is all available through the internet and is all PUBLIC RECORD

Second Disclaimer The information contained in all my serches through white pages as well as the Arizona Corporation Commission Website might all be old information. So take the information (or lack thereof) with a grain of salt

 

[Adam Block]

I mis-spell my own name all the time when I'm typing too fast. Heck, even Bob made an error in his name in this thread.

Also, the zip code given is not Buckeye (makes me think it's just the wrong address or something) and the arial photo of the house well, shows nothing. Not that I thought it would but I wanted to look.

It's already been said there's no corp in AZ owned by her and that she shows no criminal record.

I already said to find out if she's a NV corp as I'd bet money that's where she incorporated.

Not that I agree with her or think she's right or wrong but if you're going to spend time looking into things figer out why her zip/town don't match and if her corps in NV?

Also, would be odd to have your cell phone zip in Phoenix different for your home and cell. Not uncommon or anything but it just makes me think it's a wrong address or fake.

 

[HerpVenue]

Also, the zip code given is not Buckeye (makes me think it's just the wrong address or something) and the arial photo of the house well, shows nothing. Not that I thought it would but I wanted to look.

Actually it depends on which search engine you use.

on one it shows the zip as Buckeye.

on another it shows the zip as Rainbow.

That is why I always use multiple search tools (websites)

It could be a suburb or something

It's already been said there's no corp in AZ owned by her and that she shows no criminal record.

I already said to find out if she's a NV corp as I'd bet money that's where she incorporated..

Like I said before. I should not have been mentioned in this thread. I was out of it and not involved and have not read it all up to know. Anyway back on topic.

 

[HerpVenue]

Name: MORPH SPECIALTIES, INC.
Type: Corporation
File Number: C26200-2003
State: NEVADA
Incorporated On: October 24, 2003
Status: Articles Filed
Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: MICHAEL KAPLAN (Accepted)
Address: 1504 CASTLE WALL

LAS VEGAS NV 89117-


I am not a corporation and do not know what a Resident Agent Stands for

 

[Ken Foose]

Resident Agent

A resident agent of a NV corporation is the person who gets the mail, the person in charge of the articles of incorporation, and is basically a name to sue if something goes wrong. All corporations in NV must have a resident agent that lives in the state of NV.