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KS does it AGAIN

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ok heres a funny thing i just noticed

I was relisting cage ads on classifieds there .
Well i noticed my website link was double entered after the post so i thought hmmm ill change that so i deleted the ad to make the correction in it . Well when i delelted it i got a pop up saying if i delte the add it counts towards the "3 post per day limit" so i did because it would have surely been delelted if i hadnt. tried to re post and i was prohibited due to having already posted 3 adds per day ... this will be another stick in the mud for them im sure .... i see the knife getting closer to the throat everyday..
 
ok well im awaiting my fate now so to speak

copy of email sent to site coordinator:

This is a copy of the message you sent to kingsnake.com Site Coordinator
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I.P Address: 24.158.56.43
Host Name: cpe-24-158-56-043.hkry.nc.charter.com
Referring URL:
I have noticed your "newley imposed rule for posting" in classifieds.Here is my question / complaint. As i was posting my adds i noticed AFTER i had posted my 3rd add for the day that my website URL was entered twice. As i went into my adds to delete the add to repost it correctly so that it would not get the axe by a moderator i was told that deleting my post would STILL count as 3 adds per day ?? I will say i think that the steps taken were WELL NEEDED to stop abuse of people going over the limit but i also think its HIGHLY unfair to anyone who deltes a post to repost a new one so it doesnt get axed. i think your system would be better served by monitoring the posts when there are 3 ads already running rather then limiting/ refusing to offer what the TOS say by not allowing 3 posts per day ? to me that is not giving me the serivce in which i paid good money to have and is limiting my ability to compete because i deleted a add to force me to have to wait 24 hrs while !only having 2/3's of my classified account ability offered when i paid for the ability to run 3 ads per 24 hrs . If possible i would like some consideration in this action to be able to have me OFFERED ability to have 3 posts running per 24 hrs .


so if history repaets itself im sure i will get a very negitive response for my easy going but yet frim psotion in getting what was offered and listed in there TOS somehow i dont think after this ill be on the account any longer **shrugs**
 
ALLEN

Am I crazy or are you just looking to start a problem. You get 3 posts a day, times 30 days. Where else can you get that kind of exposure of 90 ads a month. You certainly can make your money back 10 fold with whatever you are selling, and you are worried about 1 ad. If this was a consistent problem, where everytime you posted and the URL doubled, make a call, and I am sure they would have taken care of it. But once you start talking about how your loosing money, or your not getting what you paid for, I think its a bit petty. Moreso than that, just by the tone of your email, its as if your looking to create an argument when its really not called for. This mishap should not be construed as Kingsnake not living up to their service, as you feel you are entitled to. The response was probably computer generated. I think you can get more with honey than you can with vinegar. JERRY TRESSER
 
Alan,

I am going to have to agree with Jerry. Don't go in with an apparent chip on your shoulder. I know there is no way we can all get along together as one big happy family in this industry, but there is no need going into a discussion making it obvious you are looking for a fight.

All it will do is to reduce your options in the future.
 
Jerry with all due Respect

Im not sure how you feel when you pay someone for a service but i feel as long as i am not doing ANYTHING i am not suppose to do i should get what i paid for regardless who im paying or not . I did as i was given the option to do i simply emailed them stating my problem .Now while you may not see what they did a bif deal i do . I have had numerous posts deleted for "TOS" violations when there was no TOS violation in my posts that i could find when reading there TOS over & over .And also i can get just as much exposure here in posting ads when i do and i have .And yes i consider when i may be running a "ONE DAY SALE" and cant becasue i chosse to post it last and then see a problem with in it after its posted and can not be givien the chance to correct as loosing potential money i might have made in lieu of the add for a one day sale . im sorry you feel im
just looking to start a problem
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but im simply speaking up for what was offered to me when i PAID for a account with them period nothing more nothing less and when THERE TOS state something they should hold true to it or why have a TOS to begin with. now if i violated any form of there TOS to deserve to be banned they would swiftly do so with no regards to me or my buisness . So i am just asking them to ammend something that IMHO is not offering a fair use of what i paid for .
 
Alan...., the same thing happened to me yesterday.... I POSTED three ads in the Colubrid section.... there was a typo in one of them, so I deleted THAT ad and made the correction, when I went to repost it, I got the same message.... with the same reply from the coordinator....

The thing you have to understand, is that you are allowed to POST three ads per day.... NOT to have three ads RUNNING per day.... if you screw up an ad, just delete it and wait for tomorrow to post it.... what's the big deal??

I think they're doing the right thing by putting that into place.... I can't tell you how upset I get when I see some other people posting 4-5-6 ads per day, but, do I say anything??.... HELL NO!!.... It's none of my business....

You're going to end up getting your priveleges revoked over something as trivial as that??.... It's your call, boss....

Neil
 
Neil Gubitz said:


You're going to end up getting your priveleges revoked over something as trivial as that??.... It's your call, boss....

Neil
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Ok ,...Yeah ,...I am quoting YOU Neil and your right . Sites are set up rules are made and they can be changed to suit the owner better and you better. Webslave has changed his rules a bit tweeked a few there and we live with it.
It's like this ,,,you got a driving liscense right?...paid for your priviledge to drive right?, the rules keep changing a bit don't they?
Not trying to be an a$$ here but your point seems mute
 
i understand it can be frusterating but i do realize why they do this.... in the past i have seen sellers, only have three ads up a day BUT through out the day or as the animals sold in the day they would either edit the ad to advertise something else OR delete the old one and post a new one. still only runnning three ads in a section... just changing them throughout the day
 
This thread should never have even come

to the BOI, its basically a non-issue that cannot be changed. But the greater question is , is it worth upsetting yourself to the point that you get yourself booted off Kingsnake. I dont think so. The smart course of action is what Neil has stated. Wait until the next day. Its the safer course with Kingsnakes convoluted policies. I personally dont agree with everything that they do, but I happen to need them more than they need me. Taking all things into consideration, its the cheapest form of advertising that can reach a multitude of people in seconds. JERRY TRESSER
 
Just wondering...
Couldn't you have just edited your ad, rather than deleting it entirely and starting over? I've used that feature for relisting ads, but haven't tried it with a current one. I can't imagine why the edit feature wouldn't work with current ads...
Anyway, just a thought.
Good luck,
Liz
 
Liz.... you can only "edit" an ad (the title and the body copy) once the ad has expired.... a posted ad can only be "added to" in a box under the ad itself....

Neil
 
Well in my case I have trouble with it. I do not believe in posting 3 ads and then later in the day deleting and posting 3 more so its at the top. I do know that if I sell something I would want to post something else asap. Thats the business I am in, I sell Reptiles.
I want to continue selling reptiles. I just "tested" Kingsnakes new system and though I see the good in it, I do not agree completely but its a service that is provided by someone who wanted to bring us all together. So that said, I posted three boa ads. deleted 2. Lets say I posted the three and I sold 2 of the animals, or one or all three. I Would want to post up to my limit. This new system doesnt allow that. Oh well, as long as kingsnake is up and running and providing me and many other with new contacts, customers, im happy.

I see the good in it, but it hinders in a way. Atleast it keeps people from deleting and posting the same three ads every few hours just to be at the top. I for one have realized that people email you for a ad as they go through the entire days classifieds.
Another thing for the customers that buy off the classifieds is that they get boring sometimes..........its a good thing to check classifieds and seeing DIFFERENT ads , even though from same people, all the time. I have gone and checked(im looking for deals too!) every few hours and its the same , hasnt had any new ads, etc, because mainly of the limit of three ads. Thats no problem as it keeps competition fair and doesnt allow someone to post forty ads, but it hinders hit counts for kingsnake.com. It would be better if they remove what topic starter is complaining about BUT keep the three ad limit yet let you post three different ads throught the day. Alot harder to monitor but it would be great.
Anyways enough of me talking, lol/
 
agreed

Heres my main beef i guess i like the setup TO a point

i feel like you MnR but i think they could have JUST as easily set up the monitoring to not allow MORE then three ads per day. this would free up the man power in them monitoring the ads . but to keep you to three ads period even if you make a mistake and need to delete it as in my case or just sell that add posted and want a new one in its place .Just be cause someone likes anything doesnt mean they cant make a legitimate complaint about it ... or does it ?
 
Alan, I feel your pain.... Heck, those caps on the internet are by most considered to be raising your voice. You'll be lucky to have a KS account after raising your voice to them.

You pay them a good price to post there. For them to say you can only have 3 posts per day no matter if it's for 15 days or 15 seconds is just insane..

Have you seen timemachine? In that movie, the new one anyway. When asked why they don't fight the girl (Samantha Mumba) responds with "the ones who fight are taken first". This is just a case were everybody feeds the beast because they need it. He can do as he wishies and what do you think can be done to stop it?

Good luck buddy!
 
Limitation of the programing

Sounds like the automated monitoring system clicks off a counter at the placement of the ad. So it doesn't really monitor the number of ads running just a count of what you've placed for the day. Does anybody remember when they first changed over the forum format, how it exploded on itself. You should be happy that the classifieds didn't shut down if you tried deleting and adding a new ad :D
 
Adam.... you wrote....

....You pay them a good price to post there....

You are so dead wrong, it's not even funny.... Try posting a SINGLE ad in ANY magazine (even a reader ad) and see how much they charge you.... on KS, you are allowed 3 ads per category per day.... you couldn't find less expensive advertising rates ANYWHERE!!.... I have approximately 20 ads running on any given day.... that's 7300 single ads per year.... at $150 per year to advertise there.... that's .02 cents per ad (if my math is correct)???.... I would give them $500 a year to have the privilege of posting on that site.... and I would take all the crap Jeff wanted to throw at me.... heck, it's HIS SITE???.... For the money I generate off that site, getting one or two ads deleted per month is fine with me.... and if I can't make a change for a day or so.... big deal??
You've just got to ease up a little, buddy....

Neil
 
I agree Neil, but $100+ is a good amount of money to most people selling something produced by their hobby. This is your business, I wasn't speaking in terms of a business cost but from the perspective of a hobbiest.

Here's a wet cloth, you seem to have a little brown speck on your nose:)

Anybody know if the 3 ads per day is for the whole site or just a section?
 
Yes, Adam.... I do....

On the Classifieds section, you can post....

3 Boa ads per day
3 Python ads per day
3 Colubrid ads per day
3 Lizard ads per day
3 Monitor ads per day
etc.
etc.
etc.


3 ads.... per category.... per day.... there are about 20 categories, which means you can post about 60 ads per day....

That's not bad for $150 per year....

Neil
 
Are you guys saying there is an automatic monitoring system?
To where you can hit submit three times a day per section?

that has some bad points....what if you mess up?


But it also has a VERY VERY GOOD POINT.
The guys who erase their ads then turn around and repost it just to put it on top........this would definately stop them.
 
yeah ritchie thats it

i had posted 3 in a row and messed up wasnt looking to advance itto top as it was already there just to correct it so it didnt get axed by the mods
 
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