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Bad Guy Kyle Van Der Veer AKA RepKyle

Also keeping geckos before sending back my geckos pretty much says you were fine with them for the debt owed. Which was not talked about before hand. Stolen by your own words.
 
Kyle, I cannot provide you pictures of geckos that died 2.5 years ago because I do not have the pictures. There is a picture in this thread, taken at my friend John's house, with dead geckos in my hand. The only place I have that picture at is this thread. Even if I still had the same phone as I did 2.5 years ago, which I do not, I would have deleted those pictures by now. You, at the time, told me you didn’t need pictures, and the only mistake I made through this was not cataloging the dead.


Your geckos were not at my friend’s house for a week. I drove from Baltimore to Chicago the day after your geckos shipped. I was half way through my drive when your geckos arrived at my friends house, and he called me to tell me the state they were in. The time between your geckos arriving and me getting to them was less than 8 hours, and they were received by a gecko person. This was all detailed on the original post. Nowhere did a week come into play.

Your attempt to discredit me as a keeper is just to hide your scam and move attention.

I don’t know where you’re getting that I gave geckos I was given for free from Allen. Allen gave me a stack of geckos, I gave them all away with diet, as per the promotion he was running, I gave another stack away (also with diet), and then before we packed up Sunday, I filled my box with more free males form Allen after I’d packed my geckos. If you wound up with 6 male geckos from Allen, you stole them from my table.

I am weirdly fascinated by you being locked onto the Afroedura in this. Skinny, black stomached, botched feet from stuck shed is not flawless, no matter how you try and dress it up years later. Again, I will point out dead Pachydactylus in the picture I posted in 2010. The middle one is obviously a female tigrinus. If a gecko died, I didn’t “keep it.”

Again, YOU TOLD ME TO JUST TELL YOU WHAT DIED AND TO THROW IT AWAY. YOU KNEW THERE WAS D.O.A. AND DYING ANIMALS, AND YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS THREAD IN 2010 WHEN IT WENT UP. We ‘spoke’ about this thread over voicemail when you threatened to leave me a bad BOI because I posted this.

You told me to keep the rangei. NOTHING was stolen, or scammed, or hidden from you. I communicated every step of the way, and the only thing I forced on you was returning sick, dying, mite infested geckos. I did agree, once the geckos were in air to me, that I would keep them and sell or buy them all. However, I agreed to that pre-mites, pre-dead, and pre-dying animals.
 
So No proof of where my geckos went. I only agreed to let you keep the rangei after the box arrived without them in it. Not the same. You can not account for my geckos and did not prove that they died. Not even at that time. Now you want more. No worries I will see you soon.
 
You don't want anymore from me. Then you should not have post again. I could care less about this forum and Pangea and the bias BOI. And I did not threaten you. We can just deal with it in person the next time I see you.
And yes Nick kept the geckos and the told me after I called him to ask why they were not in the box with the rest of my geckos. So yeah he stole them.
 
I could care less about this forum and Pangea and the bias BOI.

Then you won't be too heartbroken if us (Pangea Mods) don't let you use the trade section based on your past dealings, BOI threads, and unprofessional posts.

I don't understand why you'd post an ad wanting to trade items for crested geckos if you are into all these other obscure and advanced species anyway. Not to make assumptions, but not many advanced gecko keepers keep species like cresteds and leopard geckos. When I saw the original ad, I thought it to be a scam. I (and others) don't want to subject innocent gecko loving people to people running scams.
 
I think it's really ridiculous that you (Kyle) are pushing for proof and pictures and everything after all this time. You really think that Nick would have all the texts and photos still on his phone? What he posted in 2010 was enough for the rest of us to understand the situation, but now it's all resurfacing and you are thinking that people's minds are going to change? I don't get it. You are also acting like Nick is selling your animals over 2 years later...seems like quite the stretch. Also, where were you back in 2010 to defend yourself? Seems like you just popped in here now to try and save face or point the blame at Nick after all was supposedly forgotten.

Also...why is your name spelled "Klye" in your profile? :shrug01: Honestly, I don't think I can trust a man that can't spell his own name. Unless your name really is Klye...in which case I'll apologize.
 
I should not post what again Kyle? You appeared out of nowhere to call me a thief. Why would I not defend myself? There is nothing to work out Kyle, because you will insist I owe you, and I will insist I don’t. I am 100% fine with, “Kyle is a scam artist, I got screwed over, and I will never do business with him again.” I was fine with that in 2010.

Seeing me in person isn’t likely, we live 2700+ miles from each other, and have met in person exactly once, the weekend of gekkoniday.

Again, before I insisted you take the geckos back we discussed that I was keeping the rangei, and you agreed. The rangei were what started all of this, because rangei were all you ever had that I wanted. Every other pachy you kept I could buy from Jon or Gene at a better price than yours.

I reiterate, because you’re ignoring it. This trade started for rangei, you did not give me rangei, you insisted I sell the rangei you sent in the box when you’d been telling me you didn’t have them, and when I didn’t sell them because they were in crap condition, we discussed, and you agreed to, me keeping the rangei.
 
I do not need to change minds. And just because I want to keep cresteds again does not mean it a scam. Funny I don't see the hundreads of positive deals here. BIAS
Why don't you ask Derek Dunlop how he likes the books. I could care less about being able to post on Pangea. I have been breeding geckos for 20years and there is always some NOOB that thinks their experiences is the way it is.
 
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