Ok everyone...
I just now caught this thread...Wish someone would have forwarded me the link. Let me see if I can reply to everyone...I apologize ahead of time if I miss anyone.
I feel it was created out of the desire to generate income off of the industry...
I can assure you, that is not our intention in the slightest. To establish each individual Registered Breeder's current breeding stock, we are providing a free grace period (much like the ACR did) until January 2007. This provides breeders with a full year to register all of their stock at the LGR's cost. No matter how much we wish to make the LGR free to register a gecko, their is no way it's going to happen. Costs for certificates, web space and programming alone are costs that the LGR needs to be able to pay on its own.
I could see it being more valuable/worthwhile with something like the ball python or bearded dragon market however.
I disagree in the fact that I think Leos are just as valuable/worthwhile as a BP or Beardie.
However, as soon as the LGR is complete (new site and programming), we are making a sister site to the LGR for Beardies.
And I think a few more ppl would join the LGR if there was a gecko showing where the best in show won 50 grand.
Down the road, we would
love to sponsor a Leopard Gecko show at one of the larger US shows. The ACR did it.
However, for that to work, I would need more supporters of the LGR and other individuals willing to shoulder some of the work. We also at this time couldn't do a 50 grand best of show obviously, but a few hundred bucks would be more plausible.
Then the book would have to come out every year, all the new morphs being introduced ad each year when one would be created, there would be controversy.
Their is a book like you speak of for cornsnakes.
The Cornsnake Morph Guide does comes out every year and is a great success. (
http://www.cornguide.com/the guide.php) I wouldn't want to take on the responsibility of such a venture however.
Heck, I suppose anyone could register one of their rescues as coming from Albey's stock (example) if they wanted to get a registration for it. Gecko bloodlines are too diluted (or should I say 'polluted') to accurately keep track of.
No, they necassarily couldn't.
To match up hatchling with a breeder, the breeder needs to submit a pre-registration form guaranteeing that a particular hatchlings came from a particular crossing. This prevents an individual claiming that their gecko came from a particular breeder from a particular crossing. Of course, they can claim all they want...But if the gecko was registered with the LGR, it would not be linked to the original breeders stock unless it is verfied with the breeder.
I can only say that I am not on the bandwagon to pay someone else to decide what I have.
The only restrictions we would put down is if an individual were trying to register a normal as a Stripe or SHTCTB (for example). We in no way shape or form are going to say "that Tangerine doesn't have enough Carrottail to be called a Carrottail." The purpose of having photos with the registrations (on Certs and Online) is to allow a buyer to judge for themselves the quality of a breeders stock.
why would we even dare to create such a registry? In effect you are just creating more work for yourself (paperwork, ehh)
I believe a registry should be put in place to collect, maintain and provide information to every hobbiest. As far as additional work for a breeder, most if not all of the forms will be completely available online for submission. The only paperwork that should be hand filled out by a Breeder would be Transfer of Ownership (and that is simply as a guarantee that a particular hatchling came from a particular breeder).
That was already established... see Herpportal
You know, I'm not knocking Herpportal...but I attempted to register with them as a breeder about 6 months ago and received no reply...Anyone else have a problem with this?
Although I think the Leopard Gecko Registry is a GREAT idea, the unfortunate aspect is that there are aren't that many 'legitimate' LG breeders and a whole lot of hobbyists and rogue wannabe's that would not participate in this program.
We are not expecting 100% participation. That actually wouldn't be realistic. We don't even expect 50% participation for the first few years (though it would be nice). Everything takes time. The AKC I'm sure certainly wasn't in the beginning successful. Everything takes time, and we expect the bumps in the road! It's also our hope that the "hobbyists and rogues" see the LGR, see that the "legitimate" breeders are participating and want to be able to say "I'm with the LGR too."
Ok, I
think I answered everything. I apologize if I've missed anything/anyone. Please continue with the discussion.
