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For Sale LTC abronia graminea pair
- Thread starter Dylan999
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thedinodad
New member
Hi hi, are you open to selling just the female or only as a pair? And if so, how much would the female alone cost?
Socratic Monologue
Well-known member
You do realize that LTC (= 'wild collected, captive for some time period that someone thinks is "long") graminea are smuggled, right? No wild specimens of this species have legally entered the US (at least in the last nine years since they were CITES listed, anyway). Also, the most recent previous ad from this seller was demonstrated with evidence that the animals in that ad were smuggled.
thedinodad
New member
LOL I respect trying to educate the public, but I'm going to go ahead and guess that most people looking into buying Abronias on MM or FC are likely to know common reptile hobby nomenclature, or at least have the sense to Google an unknown acronym before making a purchase.
I skimmed the post about the Terrapene nelsoni, presuming that is what you are referencing, but there wasn't really definitive evidence of illegal activity. Even if we say that the species hasn't been imported since 2009, they can live quite a bit upwards of 25 years (which is irrelevant if you accept the claim that they were CB). So whether the aforementioned evidence is conclusive seems to be a subjective matter.
Going back to the species I am inquiring about though, when it comes to Abronia graminea, 41 of them were last exported to the US in 2024.
Educating the public and favoring conservationism are great goals, but throwing around inconclusive evidence doesn't strike me as being the best approach to tackling what you presume to be suspected poaching.
I skimmed the post about the Terrapene nelsoni, presuming that is what you are referencing, but there wasn't really definitive evidence of illegal activity. Even if we say that the species hasn't been imported since 2009, they can live quite a bit upwards of 25 years (which is irrelevant if you accept the claim that they were CB). So whether the aforementioned evidence is conclusive seems to be a subjective matter.
Going back to the species I am inquiring about though, when it comes to Abronia graminea, 41 of them were last exported to the US in 2024.
Educating the public and favoring conservationism are great goals, but throwing around inconclusive evidence doesn't strike me as being the best approach to tackling what you presume to be suspected poaching.