Here is the post up until now along with the screen shot of the auction.
This is obviously a scam and a big one at that.
Auction Item Questions and Answers posted on item:
Item number: 1074120872
Titled: WOW !!!! 100% Het for Albino Pair of 03 Ball Pythons
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Wed Dec 31, 07:51 PM
Guarantee??????
If they don't produce an albino in the 1st or 2nd year of breeding do I get my money back? And the het "pied" too?
Why no papers?
What if they do not prove to be het?
Thanks for your time!!!
Greg
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Wed Dec 31, 08:21 PM
I bought them as hets without papers and im selling them that way. I f you don't wont to take the chance don't. Im just telling it the way it is. If they dont sell ill keep them . They are great snakes and im fine with people not wonting them because theres no garentee. Someone will wont them and they will get some great snakes. Im not going to garentee them because i didnt breed the parents and there not my offspring. I took someones word for it and someone that wonts thm will have to do the same. thanks for looking. Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer): Discountrepitile
Post on: Wed Dec 31, 08:29 PM
this sell is alsome Ive bought mant times and they don't jerk people around very up front do receomend to buy from A+++++++ people
Question about this item from (buyer): Discountrepitile
Post on: Wed Dec 31, 08:31 PM
this seller is alsome Ive bought many times from them and they don't jerk people around very up front do receomend to buy from A+++++++ people
Question about this item from (buyer): Crestedbreeder1
Post on: Thu Jan 01, 06:32 PM
why are you selling them?
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Thu Jan 01, 07:23 PM
I bought them in a group of four pairs, Mainly to get the two pairs i wonted andi figurd id sell the other two pair and try to get some money back.You acn email me if you wont at
[email protected] Thanks
Question about this item from (buyer): Iwinyouloose
Post on: Fri Jan 02, 10:47 PM
How do you know they are 100% ?
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Fri Jan 02, 11:05 PM
the mother and father were both albino. And the person i got them from said they were and i beleive him . thanks
Question about this item from (buyer): Iwinyouloose
Post on: Sat Jan 03, 09:08 PM
If the mother and the father are both albinos.
Then ALL the babys would be albinos...
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sat Jan 03, 09:11 PM
Well you can say that if you wont, but they weren't. One was albino and three were not. I know i saw them myself.
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sat Jan 03, 09:17 PM
For everyone that has such a problem with me selling as het for albino don't buy them . I know what they are and ive seen the parents and im not pushing them on anyone . You wont them bid you dont then dont bid. If they dont sell ill keep them. Other people that have bid seem to like them. So if you're just wonting someone to mess with then please mess with someone else. I dont have time to say that they are het over and over for someone how is not even interested. Thanks
Question about this item from (buyer): Upandupreptiles
Post on: Sat Jan 03, 09:27 PM
I have bought hets from her before and they did prove out. And i would recomend her to anyone who wonts to buy really nice snakes. I have seen her stock and she has really nice stuff. And wouldn't Try to trick anyone!
Question about this item from (buyer): Bigjreptiles
Post on: Sat Jan 03, 09:32 PM
I also have bought snakes from her and was always pleased with what i got. Shes a great person to deal with and always has nice animals. Man you guys are really giving her a hard time. If shes selling it you can belive its what she says it is. And like she said if you don't wont it don't bid on it.
[email protected] Good luck with your snakes Lynn.
Question about this item from (buyer): Coach
Post on: Sun Jan 04, 03:30 PM
Lynn, Thats also my name!!
NOT TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME! But Please understand, There's not alot of Albino Ball's out there!!!! I'm very interested in being the high bidder on your auction, Because I would give my left (you know what) to be able to produce, and raise Albino Ball Python's!! But I'm very Skeptical! So if you wouldn't mind, who is your friend?? who bred the 2 Albinos! and if they are both Albino's, why did your friend get Hets?? One more thing, if you SAW them and you know, the PARENTS are Albino, and this pair your auctioning came from them, why won't you guarantee that?? Once again, NOT trying to give you a hard time.!! Please answere my questions, and don't be Evasive, and say if I don't want them, don't buy them! PLEASE Answere the questions, and you'll ease everyone's mind, and you'll probably pick up a few new customer's in the process!! I look forward to your response!! Have A Great Day! THANKS
Sincerely,
Coach 45 Years of Keeping, Breeding, and Raising, Python's
(Lynn)
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sun Jan 04, 07:13 PM
Ok they are guaranteed. I saw the parents and i know what they are. I just havent been breeding long enough to know about making any papers on them and my friend sold them to me cheeper because he didnt give me papers on them. I cant say they they will have albinos eveytime or even the first time . You wont know untill they breed and are proven I can say if they dont produce i will buy them back. Thanks
Question about this item from (buyer): Coach
Post on: Sun Jan 04, 10:05 PM
Lynn;
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!
Regards,
Coach
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sun Jan 04, 10:08 PM
no prob.
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Mon Jan 05, 06:56 PM
Both parents were Albinos????? And these are hets???? Lynn, please come clean on this. If 2 albinos were bred then all babies will be albino. BUT, a very big BUT, if you did in fact see the parents, I guess we all just have to take your word for it!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not saying you don't have good animals, but come on, your ad says HETS, with no guarantee. Why the change of heart now???? Anybody who spends $$ hoping to get albinos on this deal, or whatever kind of hets your selling is THROWING away their hard-earned $$. Again, this is my honest opinion, and I have no intention on bidding on them. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Maybe the ad you posted should read: NORMALS!!!! POSSIBLE HETS WITH NO PAPERWORK! That would not be a misleading ad, as yours is! Again just my opinion!
Greg H
Question about this item from (buyer): Bkssnakes
Post on: Tue Jan 06, 12:33 AM
I mail me. I will help you out ect..
[email protected]
Question about this item from (buyer):
Post on: Thu Jan 08, 06:23 PM
Lynn, Dont listen to GMreptiles he's a dick face. LOL
Reptibid gets better everyday dosnt it?
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Thu Jan 08, 06:49 PM
Well Mr. GM reptiles guess what ? As far as iam conserned what you think of my ad or my snakes i could really care less. I know what im talking about and i dont have to explain anything to you. The people who are interested in them and have talked to me know i called the guy i got them from and got the papers already. Thanks for your know it all attitude!! And since you werent even interested in them in the first place , you could of kept your two cents worth to your self. If you like to just go around trying to make people out to be scamers . You should really know that you are creating problems for nice people who are trying to sell nice animals. But as you can see!!!!!! it didnt stop the bidding on mine. So hope you have an auction soon!! Oh and hope you have a great day . Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer):
Post on: Thu Jan 08, 08:19 PM
lol haha HAH BOOYAH faggot boy gm!
If you have such a problem with them, And think everyone else does, Then why is someone bidding over 1k??
ahahaha@you gm. You just made yourself look stupid---errrrr then you already are
Question about this item from (buyer):
Post on: Thu Jan 08, 08:54 PM
lol by the way, those are beautiful Ball pythons, Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer): Exoticballpythons
Post on: Fri Jan 09, 04:46 AM
I hate to start sh1t but if Both parents were Albinos every single hatchling would of been a albino. I am a breeder of Ball Pythons, and have Albinos, Pieds, Ghosts, Blonde Pastels, Pastels, Cinnamon Pastels, Spider Balls in my collection. There is NO way possible to get Heterozygous (two different alleles at a given locus) animals from 2 Albino whitch is the Homozygous (having two identical alleles at a given locus) form of the Heterozygous animals. Maybe he bred a Albino to a Heterozygous female to produce albinos and Hets??
Bryan
www.exoticballpythons.com
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Fri Jan 09, 10:58 AM
All i know is he showed me the parents, they were both albino!!!!!! And all of the babies were NOT.He gave me papers on these snakes and a guareent. Im not going to sit here and argue with people out this over and over. o.K. lISTEN tHEY ARE WHAT IAM SAYING THEY ARE ! Regardless of what anyone says they are going to sell and what ever happens after that is between me and the person who buys them ! If the guy lied to me and showed me two snakes that really werent the parents then I WILL deal with that when it is proven that they are not. But until then iam NOT, NOT going to keep on going over this everyday!!!!!!!!!! Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Fri Jan 09, 12:04 PM
This broad has lost her mind. She's getting sound advice, and flat out ignores it. By the way Lynn, thanks for bidding on my snakes the other day.
For these snakes to be at $1050 right now is CRAZY!!! Why would you buy from her who doesn't even know if they're het for $1000, and not go to someone like Bob Clark and pay $800- $900?
I think you're bidding on your auction under a different user name because you know that when and if these snakes were to sell you would be up crap creek without a paddle when the buyer bred them and produce no albinos, and no hets.
Do I think you're trying to scam people? YOU BET YOUR ASS I DO! If you weren't then why did you change your guarantee?
Bryan from exoticballs.com is giving you the benefit of the doubt, and I don't know why. You said you saw the parents, both were albino, and these are hets. LMFAO!!!!!
BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE PLEASE RETRACT YOUR BIDS, OH YOU CAN'T BECAUSE SHE BID ON HER OWN ITEM!!! WHOOPS!
HAVE A GREAT DAY SCAMMER!!!!!
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Fri Jan 09, 12:41 PM
To begin with i had a 300.00 buy it now. I never asked for this kind of money . You dont know what you are talking about. I began saying that there was no guarentee and i got so much crap off of it that i then said i would buy them back if they didnt reproduce albinos. I then talked to the guy who i bought them from and told him about people like you giving me problems so he gave me the papers on them. Im not changeing my mind on anything . I just tryed to make people happy buy offering a guarentee and getting the papers. You know its assholes like you that dont even take the chance to find out all the details on something and someone before you open your big mouth. If you think im bidding on my own stuff then your stupid . If i wanted to do that then i never would of put them up for sale in the first place. Im not a scammer i have sold to lots of people and they all have been very happy with my animals. This has gotten way out of hand. All i wanted to do was sell a couple of snakes for 300.00 . If you have a problem with me then please feel free to email me and i will give you my phone # and we can talk about it person to person. Instead of trying to make me out to be some kind of scammimg asshole, because im NOT! Slander is against the law even on the internet. So you should make sure of what your talking about before you go making poeple out to be something they are not. Lynn
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Fri Jan 09, 01:14 PM
Oh and by the way, I have wrote into reptibid to tell them of this problem. Iam not going to let you tell people im a scammer and a lier. Iam a nice person and i have very nice animals. If people dont wont to bid on them they dont have to. Iam trying to be as fair as i can on these snakes. Its people like you that make it where people dont even want to sell on reptibid. Thanks for all your interest but from here on out please keep it to yourself THANKS Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer): Exoticballpythons
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 06:06 AM
I am not caling you a liar by any means, The reason I even stepped in is because I was burned on almost 10,000.00 worth of hets this year. That for 2 snakes, I have filed legal actions and I will get my money in time. I am not worried about the money I dont need it. Or I should say I am not desperate for it. I just want everyone to beaware that there are MANY people out there looking to take advantage of people. Lynn I am not saying youy are doing this but really the person who you bought these animals from falt out lied to you when he or she said that the parents were BOTH albinos, and I am sorry to say that but its the truth. I just hope you will stand behind your animals 110% if they dont prove out. My guarentee to my customers are if you buy hets from me and breed them together 2 seperate times and they dont produce the visual morph either of them times I will replace the hets with the morph. Now my animals are also VERY well documented to prevent fraud on a customers end.. Just a little sercuity for both my customer and myself.
Good Luck Lynn & to all
Bryan
www.exoticballpythons.com
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 11:48 AM
Very well put Bryan! The person who sold Lynn these snakes may just be a snake themselves. I'm still wondering though, 1ST: The ad says 100% Hets
2ND: no guarantee. 3RD: all of the sudden there is a guarantee. 4TH: seller gets all bent out of shape when her bluff is called. What does all this equal: This seller is fraudulantly listing animals.
You CAN NOT list an ad as 100% hets, then in the text of your message say there's no guarantee.
Thank God I emailed a few potential buyers of some their other auctions and convinced them NOT to bid on her items . The writing is on the wall, you're a crook regardless of what the person said or did that you bought these snakes from. Happy herping Lynn, and have a SUPER DAY!!
Quote of the day: We are all responsible for OUR OWN ACTIONS, so quit trying to blame others for YOUR mistakes....(author: George Bitte)
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 03:34 PM
Iam not tring to blame anyone for anything. GMHerps you dont know what you are talking about. If you just wont to continue to mess with me then go ahead . We will see what reptibid has to say about this. You think you are so smart. But talking to and about people the way you do is wrong. You havent even emaied me and tried to ask me anything about these snakes or myself. All you want to do is have some fun messing with me. well I hope your fun ends soon because im not going to continue to be talk to and slandered by you! Dont you have something better to do with yourself. O.k. so youve emaied anyone that might bid on my auction and told them not to (good for you) If you are happy now , then leave me alone and find someone else to mess with. I have nothing else to say to you! I will Not sell these snakes to anyone. I have tried to do better on the deal than when i started , but instead of trying to help me know what you think may be wrong by emailing me and talking to me aboout it , you wont to call me names and talk about me like im <font color=red>[bleep]</font> on your shoes . Well im not. As long as you are happy and youve gotten your point across then everything should be fine. hope your happy and good luck with your buss. Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer): Cloveflowers
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 05:13 PM
Can't blame others for YOUR past mistakes. Just because you #!#*#! up and bought bad snakes from someone else dosen't mean that everyone is out to get you. Lynn has guarenteed them. What more do you want? You want some cheese with that wine??? Go home and cry to your mama. Guess what? You all lose. Lynn lives in the same city I do and I'm going to go buy them since yall want to be ass's about it. Christy
Question about this item from (buyer): Rattlesnakejoe
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 05:52 PM
This is for GMherp.Are you sure snakes are what you are interested in? With all the time you spent on this site complaining and bitching it dosen't sound like snakes are your real hobbie. It sounds like complaining and bitching are what you seem to do best or atlease most. Because someone who would have this much to say about someone who has never taken one red cent from you personally, you sure have alot to say. I would bet that you are single or divorced judging by your attitude. I guess I let you go now I'm sure your cotex needs changing at this time, I sure hope your a woman because someone who bitches this much must have two sets of lips and by the way if you want to send your address I will deliver them personally. The cotex that is!!RattlesnakeJoe
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 06:46 PM
Joe; Thats right I spend time on people like Lynn because the little things like this is what really pisses people off. The whole ordeal is a big SCAM!!! Tell you what Joe, buy the snakes, then breed them. If you and when you do not produce albinos after 2 breedings try to get your cash back from her.
If people think I'm the bad person here, then so be it. But the fact remains LYNN IS A LIAR!!!!!!!
Question about this item from (buyer): Rattlesnakejoe
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:07 PM
I have bought snakes from Lynn and all have proven out, even if she said no guarentee. The rule on this site as well as any market in the U.S. is "Buyer Beware" I have also bought pastels and others from her. I am happy with all of them. WOW!!!Great snakes Lynn. Call me when you get more.
Man I really feel at this point after all of this, I really have begun to feel sorry for you because if something like this "the little things" piss you off, that is; someone who you don't know or have never done business with, because you think their lying, this makes you mad. You have made this your personal cruesade. Man your life must be small if this makes you mad when you haven't lost a dime on Lynn. You either have lots of money and nothing to do or you must be broke and can't buy a damned thing and are frustrated. Have you ever seen a Psycologist?
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:28 PM
I just try to look out for the other guy that in this deal will eventually get screwed.
So you've proven out snakes from her huh? That's funny someone told me she was just now trying to get into ball pythons. UMMMMM, sounds kinda fishy. Joe do yourself a favor, go back through all the post here in the Q & A and just read how many times she has changed her story. I mean come on, albino bred to an albino produces what Joe?
Before you respond go back and read the posts, even by VERY reputable breeders.
I've already detoured a few people from buying from her, so now its time
to put in a little overtime.
I haven't lost a dime on Lynn, and neither has others I have warned, and that's a very good thing!
Either she's lying BIG TIME or this breeder friend of hers is running the game on her and now she's taking the hit, regardless ignorance is no excuse for for this auction!
Here's a qoute from little Lynn from above:
"the mother and father were both albino. And the person i got them from said they were and i beleive him" But Lynn they're hets. How do you get hets from breeding albino/albino? HMMMMMMM?
Another quote from the genius:
" I bought them as hets without papers and im selling them that way"
But wait keep reading!
Last quote from Einstein (Lynn):
"He gave me papers on these snakes and a guareent. Im not going to sit here and argue with people out this over and over. o.K. lISTEN tHEY ARE WHAT IAM SAYING THEY ARE ! Regardless of what anyone says they are going to sell and what ever happens after that is between me and the person who buys them !"
I guess she waved her magic wand, and POOF, the papers appeared! Anybody who supports this chick is just as much a loser as she is!
Oh by the way CornsnakeJoe or rattlesnake, whatever your name is; I'm not a shrink, just a law student!
Everyone have a great weekend, I have more emails to send out!!!!!
Question about this item from (buyer):
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:33 PM
You want credibility, go read this thread on how HAPPY her customers are. She treats animals like crap!!! Highlight and post the link in the browser.
Enjoy because I'm finding tons of dirt on this broad.
http://www.reptibid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.pl?action=askquestion&category=&item=
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:44 PM
Look gmherps i dont know what your problem is with me . I started to sell them the way i bought them , then because of you saying what you have to try to make me look bad i went back and talked him into giving me papers and a guarentee, now your mad at that . your mad at me because i didnt start off saying they had papers and a guarentee iam trying to make this situation better and you wont let me instead you wont to keep on trying to make me be someone bad. Iam was just trying to sell some snakes and you have taken it to heart that im such a lier and a scammer. Well just beacuse your a law student and have been in snakes for a while doesnt mean that you should cut down the little guy or girl! If you were any kind of a person you would of emailed me by now and talked to me and teied to explain why you think the way you do . instead of bashing me. Ive been breeding for a few years now and have bought and sold some great animals and never tryed to screw anyone over. This is a hobbie to me and is not worth all of your ugly remarks . If it makes you so mad when you think someone is trying to screw someone else over then there is nothing wrong with expressing that but until you know for sure, why try to ruion someone that you dont even know??? please tell me that?GMHerps thanks Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:49 PM
Post your email address, and phone #.
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:52 PM
what does this site have to do with me?
[email protected]
Question about this item from (buyer): Rattlesnakejoe
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:57 PM
To GMherps.All that money and education and they still cant teach you any manners.I understand now.Mommy and daddy money and nothing to do after school.I would really like conduct this conversation in person.You would not be running that dick sucker because this rattlesnake will bite you in the ass. I bought snakes from lynn before she got to the point where she was selling to the general public or to people period. I'm not defending Lynn. I'm saying what a jerk you are and what a small life you have to spend this much of your time on something you have only lost time on.
I may be a loser but I usually have better things to do than to bitch about someone that I don't know or haven't done business with. YOu should try masturbation to relieve your frustration or something. By the way I didn't ask if you were a shrink, I asked if you had seen one. It is clear you have some issues with anger and jealousy.
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:57 PM
It's called your feedback. Less than positive.
Question about this item from (buyer): Gmherps
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 07:59 PM
You would bite my ass? And you say I have issues!
You know how to keep an idiot in suspense Joe?
Wait for the next post.
Question about this item from (buyer):
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 08:17 PM
I'm not sure why there's all this discussion about the issue...
Two albino ball pythons, when crossed, can't produce normal appearing neonates UNLESS and this is a big UNLESS, one of the parents represents a brand new, never before seen, fresh off the boat strain of albinism. But, if this were the case, then NONE of the neonates would have been albino.
The story is clearly a lie, basic knowledge of mendelian genetics is all that's needed to understand that. If the background information is so blatantly a lie, then why would anyone trust this person enough to send them money? Further, if someone lies so badly about information which should have been so obvious, it raises serious questions about their ability to care for any animals they own... Lack of basic knowledge usually means poor husbandry.
I think the warnings for buyers to stay away are perfectly legitimate, unless some better answers can be had.
Question about this item from (buyer):
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 08:27 PM
Lynn is actually Neil Gubitz in drag, isn't she?!
Response on this item from (seller): Lynnwood707
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 08:55 PM
Look do what you want to . If you wont to think im a scam go ahead, i no im not and the people who nkow me know im not ,ans as far as my feedback its is all good, so i dont know what you are talking about. and i take very good care of my animals, i love snakes and that is what got me into this. I cant belive that some of the big breeders in this are traedting people like this, I dont know everything but atleast i treat people better than this. I have bought snakes from this guy before and he hasnt lied to me . why would he start now. If it is true that you cant get hets from to albinos , then iam wrong but if not and these do produce then you all owe me an apology. And trust me im not as knowledgeable about this as you are but when i am i WONT treat peolpe like this. Lynn
Question about this item from (buyer): Discountrepitile
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 09:18 PM
what do people have nothing better 2 do than sit around and screw with people? Lynn is an awesome person I've bought several of herps from her and she has never did me or any 1 I've sent to her any wrong. Theres chat rooms for people to give others a rough time thats not what this site is for so stop bothering people unless they do u wrong. How would u like it if you were selling something and I screwed with your auction? You'd probably get pretty pissed. What makes you think u know so much about herps? If u know so much, how come you don't have a well known name? If you did you wouldn't have the time to screw with people, you'd be selling herps. Instead of making this into a chat room fight site, let's ALL work together, there's enough people out there trying to screw us! Thanks for everything, Lynn keeps supplying us with the lovely herps!
Question about this item from (buyer): Rkreptiles
Post on: Sat Jan 10, 09:22 PM
One thing, if everyone will take a look at the exact same writing from Lynnwood707, Upandupreptiles, and Bigjreptiles you will clearly see these are all the same person using different usernames. Also one of the bids made on these animals was Upandupreptiles whom is clearly the same person as the seller. I guarantee there are not three different people posting in this forum that all spell want by typing wont. All three of these users spell it the exact same way. Also as stated before if both parents were Albino there is NO WAY any of the offspring would be normal in appearance period. I would also be almost willing to bet money that the user whom is the high bidder presently with the user name of Crestedbreeder1 is the same person as the seller. Anyone that falls for this scam (yes it is 100% a scam)is going to find out the hard way that they are purchasing normal animals for the price of true Het. Another thing, she Lynnwood707 stated that she purchased 2 pair, which equals 4 animals. Then she said the parents produced 1 albino and 3 normal Het animals. Now I know my math is not the greatest since I have been out of College but that does not add up either.
