m.whitefeather- bad guy

[Bobby Douglass]

I agree with you on all points Jay. Well said.

 

[NEWReptiles]

I just spent the last 45 mins. posting my thoughts on this thread, and have now held the backspace key until it was gone. I sometimes have a hard time communicating my thoughts using a keyboard, so I will try to make this short.


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Maybe the same question should be asked of you…why do you care what transpires here?

I could care less what happens between these two, I chimed in when I seen several people slamming a guy for his PAST, and also bringing some slight racial slurs up to bat.


I am not going to get deep into my thoughts here with you Jay, If you feel the need to say I have limited intelligence for letting you know I think your a loser for digging up a persons record, so be it. This is how I feel.

There is no need to slam someone/ANYONE for the bad decisions that they have made in the past. And by you getting the urge to exploit someones past, in my eyes, makes you a COWARD.


I understand you stating the problems between Mike and Bob, but this guys criminal background was not needed. And from what I read in previous posts, Mr. Whitefeather didnt have much choice but leave things unsettled in 1996 because he spent some time in the clink. And if things are still not settled between Mike and Bob to this day, it should be Bob, not you, that bring this issue to light.

 

[Brian Oakley]

Realvenum,
I am a FIRM believer in opinions and you, like everyone else, is entitled to yours.
With that said, how can you honestly look at this thirtysomething page thread and think anything but Whitefeather is wrong and nothing more?
People's records do not make them bad people (in case one is wondering, I do not have one other than traffic tickets), BUT the actions that are displayed (that just happen to be against the law, and CAN be irrevelant) display a perfect picture of the type of person one might be dealing with (this can go for anyone, not just Whitefeather).
Take his "record" and actions in his personal life out of this for a moment and look at JUST what has been said about his snake dealings. You have two people that came forward explaining their MORE than unfortuante situation. I too came here and spoke VERY accurately of a situation I am aware of by reading the emails that came directly from WHitefeather AND the person he took MONTHS to complete HALF a deal with (mind you, this was ONLY because the "buyer" drove from Phoenix to Madison UNANNOUNCED and knocked on his door) and took another (approx) month/month and a half to complete the remainder of the deal.
Do you not see anything wrong with putting people through this kind of $hit for NO apparent reason?
I will be the first to say, and people have come to his side in this thread which would make me feel certain about it, that he CAN be a good guy to deal with AND be a friend of. That does not excuse the actions that he has clearly displayed in his past deals.
I envite you to respond, BUT I am not looking to start any wars. Please keep that in mind when/if you post your thoughts.

 

[NEWReptiles]

I am unaware where I stated that Mr. Whitefeather did anything right, I was mostly bothered by the people that were prying a wee bit to far. Im sorry for not digging, but I intended in my first post to express that I feel Mr. Whitefeather is wrong for retaining either the animals or the money.

(in case one is wondering, I do not have one other than traffic tickets),

LOL, Thanks for bringing this up, I meant to add that I am in no way a criminal/felon and have never served time, but I do have some people that are/were close to me that made some stupid decisions in the past.

Do you not see anything wrong with putting people through this kind of $hit for NO apparent reason?

Yes, I see several things wrong with this entire transaction. I still see no reason why personal/racial issues were dragged into this thread.

Take his "record" and actions in his personal life out of this for a moment and look at JUST what has been said about his snake dealings.

I see his dealings (I have only heard of a few) as sloppy at best, I also understand how transactions can go bad by simple misunderstandings and other minor setbacks, are these problems in this case minor? I dont see it that way.

BUT I am not looking to start any wars. Please keep that in mind when/if you post your thoughts.

I too am not looking to start wars, I just seen some things that I felt I should reply to.

 

[Dr Owens]

I am not going to get deep into my thoughts here with you Jay, If you feel the need to say I have limited intelligence for letting you know I think your a loser for digging up a persons record, so be it. This is how I feel.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion...as am I. The fact that you think that I am a loser is of little consequence to me or the issue that is being discussed in this topic. I explained why I shared the information that I did. If you cannot understand those reasons, then I'm sorry...I really did try to explain it in simple terms.

There is no need to slam someone/ANYONE for the bad decisions that they have made in the past. And by you getting the urge to exploit someones past, in my eyes, makes you a COWARD.

Interesting. Maybe we should review the definition of the word "coward." It is as follows:

coward n. - One who shows ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain.

How this applies to me in this situation, I have no idea. It appears that you have once again resorted to childish name calling. So far you have used the terms "loser," "coward" and "knob" to describe me. Fortunately, none of these terms are accurate when describing the type of person that I am. Once again, I will encourage you to please stick to the subject at hand and try to refrain from personal attacks and name calling...it really doesn't reflect too highly on you to continue in this petty manner.

I understand you stating the problems between Mike and Bob, but this guys criminal background was not needed.

If you didn't take the time to read my last post, then there is really no point in me explaining again why this information was posted.

Al, you have shared your opinion. I disagree with it, but it's your right to post it. There might even be others who agree with you, but all of the feedback that I have received has been quite positive.

 

[Bobby Douglass]

Al, if someone's criminal behavior is only in the past, that's one thing. If they continue to engage in criminal activities it is very relevant to show the character of the person. The name calling wasn't called for earlier on in this thread and it's not called for by you either.

 

[Ken Foose]

Indian wanna be....

OK now. Al, and for anyone else that seemed to misread my post a long time ago, I never slammed anyones race. In fact, no one in this entire thread has done so. It is a silly assumption, and unjustified. I even explained my statement in another post to anyone that might have misunderstood it. Perhaps I have just had too many bad dealings with white guys who use native american names? Anyway, all I'm saying is don't get all worked up about racial slurs here, because there never any made. Perhaps actually reading the posts instead of just skimming them will help. I know you are a nice guy Al, and I know you just jumped into this thing kinda late (in fact, if you had not posted here late, most likely this thread would have gone by the wayside, most everything that could be said had already). Having been personaly threatened by Whitefeather (still not his real name by the way) I hope that he goes to jail as a 3 time loser. Therefore, I'm very interested in Jays updates, I actually now have a personal stake in it, for I, little old me, do not want to be beaten up in Daytona just for stepping up to Freedom Breeders booth to check on prices. I also still wonder if Freedom Breeders knows that some of us will be steering clear of their booth because we don't want to be hurt? Anyway, unless Paul has something to say anymore, this thread should be done for now, unless of course Jay wants to keep us updated on the legal situation with "Whitefeather. But you know what, I bet this thread just keeps on humming along. Take care

 

[Brian Oakley]

It has been a while since anyone posted on this. I was just wondering if this nightmare was ever resolved. Not looking for any arguments, I just know of another person who has been trying to reach him with no luck either.
Hopefully this WAS resolved.
Brian Oakley

 

[Darin Chappell]

For what it's worth, Whitefeather is listed as a vendor at the Tinley Park, IL show. It is going to be held on October 11 and 12 of this year.

 

[evansnakes]

Darin, he has been signed up for a long time. I don't know if he will be there or not. Evan

 

[pnretic]

update

mike whitetrash is still bending me over!I filled postal fraud and a complaint with dane county police.He has to aug.16 to resolve this with me or the post office is going after him.

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

has anyone considered...

This fool claims to be working for Freedom Breeder at the
upcoming Daytona show. He is also registered to be a
dealer at the Tinley Park one. On numerous occasions (on
here and elsewhere) he has threatened persons with
violence should he find them at the shows. Now,
obviously with his trial coming up, he will likely be bending
over for his new boyfriend by the time the Illinois one
comes around.

BUT....

Does Freedom Breeder know of his background? His
threats? His past? Maybe they should be brought up
to par...

Also, is it possible to let the person in charge of the
Daytona show know what mikey plans to do there?
Can we tell him? It woud be a lot more enjoyable with
one less con-artist around.

your thoughts...

Sincerely,

Gino 'In Da Bronx' Beniquez

 

[pnretic]

update

update me and mike have been talking and come to an agreement.The agreement is the orginal male jampea he got from the Baldogos and a 9 foot female jampea.

 

[Brian Oakley]

Paul,
I truely do hope you have better luck. I know a guy in New York who was told APPROX. 1.5 months ago that he (Whitefeather) would call him the following week to set up a time to ship out a snake that would make a deal from SPRING OF 2002 complete. He did not hear a word until last week I beleive it was.
He had emailed weekely, called every Monday, but with no response or answer to phone calls. Seems Whitefeather tells people what they want to hear to either buy time OR get them off his back for a while.

In all seriousness Paul, I would not hold my breath, BUT I do hope he comes through for you.

Keep us updated, not that it would change my mind about him if he did come through. It would just say that miracles do happen.
Brian Oakley

 

[pnretic]

hello

Hey Mike if you get wind of this contact me.You are harder to catch then Bin Laden

 

[ms_terese]

Paul,

Did you finally get the 2 jampeas?

 

[bigcagereptiles]

m.whitefeather ???

Hi All,
I am trying to find info about Arizona Extreme Reptiles. Not sure why it pulled up this thread. What business name does m.whitefeather work under?
Thanks Steve

 

[brucestephenson]

Here is the URL for the U.S. Government's Internet Fraud Complaint Center, for anyone who has been ripped off:

on-line Web portal located at www.ifccfbi.gov

 

[dvf1973]

oh my!

i cant believe i just read this thing, holy cow, this was amazing, damien friesz

 

[pnretic]

We have settled nothing.He's trash and wish all the bad luck in the world on him!!!!!!!!!1