• Responding to email notices you receive.
    **************************************************
    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

  • IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!! About the Google Adsense ads being displayed

    =====================
    Posted 08/15/2025
    =====================


    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

    =====================
    Addendum: 01/10/2026
    =====================


    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Bad Guy Matt Martin-Monster Cages sold fake genetics, and now won't answer for it.

I can name it whatever I want since they are my animals. There is something odd there and trying to figure it out but i find it cute that you are selling your pair to a buddy of mine and still calling them double het blizzards. I just put a catchy name on this project and last time i checked "Abyss" doesn't refer to anything genetic. Grow up and get a life. Last time i checked you might want to make good on the fact that you owe me for a dead Suntiger het amel so might want to clean off your doorstep and tell your puppetmaster to pull some other strings and we all know who is doing that LOL.

Make sure my buddy in PA get that pair that you are still selling as SD dh Blizzards so they go into a deserving persons hands.
 
Angel, Jesus, or whoever you are calling yourself these days. I think you need a good reality check. Not all genetics prove out the first time. It is funny how you are saying Matt is calling it the Abyss. We just started tossing around possible names for this yesterday. You really need to get a life and breed those snakes yourself and quit complaining. You will be very sorry that your selling them to someone else, and oh yeah, caling them dbl het blizzards, shouldn't they be 100% het albino poss het axanthic type, like you have been complaining about during this whole thread. You are so childish, recording phone calls, crying about a project that didn't prove out the first time. Get a grip, this is what breeding is about.
 
Monster Cages said:
I can name it whatever I want since they are my animals. There is something odd there and trying to figure it out but i find it cute that you are selling your pair to a buddy of mine and still calling them double het blizzards. I just put a catchy name on this project and last time i checked "Abyss" doesn't refer to anything genetic. Grow up and get a life. Last time i checked you might want to make good on the fact that you owe me for a dead Suntiger het amel so might want to clean off your doorstep and tell your puppetmaster to pull some other strings and we all know who is doing that LOL.

Make sure my buddy in PA get that pair that you are still selling as SD dh Blizzards so they go into a deserving persons hands.
Click to expand...

Matt, I can get screenshots of my brothers messages to that person and you will NOT see him call them double het blizzards. And Matt are you going to sit there and lie......You came here and stated that you didn't prove out the genetics, but you are on your group page on FB telling everybody that you did. Now you come here and lie again saying that Abyss doesn't refer to anything genetic, but you are on FB telling everybody that it does. You can't even get your lies straight. And as for that snake that you had in your possession for a MONTH...... you even lied about that......you can on here saying that my brother left you hanging on it.....Didn't my brother call you a couple months ago and told you that he would replace it with a visual amel sun tiger ??? But I'm glad I got screenshots
 
Please everyone, bare with these screenshots, and PLEASE read them..... they will prove every lie Matt Martin has told here and on FB...
 
im interested to see the evidence. because there is a difference between proving out a gene (example, if the axanthic gene is proven, thats much different than proving out a blizzard
the albino gene is proven (we can all agree on that), if matt has produced axanthics from his axanthic line, they are now proven. just because you try a dh axanthic/albino x dh axanthic/albino and do not get what would be acceptable "blizzard" doesnt mean the genes are not proven. blizzards are just the name that has been giving if/when these two genes do hit a "blizzard". my opinion, is they should be labeled normal dh albino/axanthic (assuming each gene is proven), then go onto say something like, breeding a pair of these could possibly produce a future snake tentatively known as "the blizzard" (or something along those lines). If you breed a pair of those dh's, as long as you get at least one albino, and one axanthic, they are proven genes, just not proven dh blizzards, yet. it may take years to get a "blizzard", may get one the next breeding attempt, it may even prove that this axanthic and this albino line, wont prove compatible.
Im not big into boas, but it could be like, the type II anery x kahl strain (i believe those are not compatible), as is the "normal" known anery x sharp strain is not compatible (if im not mistaken). when, and only when, you hit the actual amount of times breeding the same pair, and never hit a "blizzard" animal, will they truly be considered non dh blizzards. until then, they could be technically considered, dh albino/axanthic, poss dh blizzard, until proven or truly not proven by number of attempts
 
I'm getting it emailed now...... and I will use Matts OWN words here to show he's a liar.
 
Monster Cages said:
but i find it cute that you are selling your pair to a buddy of mine and still calling them double het blizzards.

Make sure my buddy in PA get that pair that you are still selling as SD dh Blizzards so they go into a deserving persons hands.
Click to expand...

Matt's first lie. Please note the dates when my brother posted these, they are after Matt's clutch hatched. Not one mention of "double het blizzards"



Screenshot_2012-05-26-13-55-32.png


Screenshot_2012-05-26-13-57-15.png
 
Monster Cages said:
I just put a catchy name on this project and last time i checked "Abyss" doesn't refer to anything genetic.
Click to expand...

Matt's second lie. In the 1st. pic you see Matt clearly state the the "Abyss" IS genetic, IS a NEW MORPH, and has been reproduced. Now PLEASE pay special attention to the "physical" characteristics that MATT uses to describe this GENETIC NEW MORPH the "Abyss".

Now in the 2nd pic we have a baby retic that now shares those EXACT SAME characteristics as MATT'S GENETIC NEW MORPH the "Abyss"......

Now in the 3rd pic we have people asking MATT how were this NEW GENETIC MORPH was produced and where are they from......and we can clearly see MATT say they are from the double het blizzards.......:shrug01:


Screenshot_2012-05-26-05-00-43.png



Screenshot_2012-05-26-05-05-36.png


Screenshot_2012-05-26-05-29-11.png
 
You pieced together 2 posts on the bottom Matt clearly tells me and Arron to email him for pics why would he do that if he had that top pic posted. Those are not the comments for that picture.
 
Oh and Matt, just to let you know.......These's nothing special about those babies....they share the same color, and pattern as my brother's pair.....Anyone who has ever hatched a snake will tell you that their are many things during incubation that can produce nice, funky patterns on snakes. If we all shared your logic, then a reduced pattern supertiger retic should be a new morph :rolleyes:
 
jj-mitchell said:
You pieced together 2 posts on the bottom Matt clearly tells me and Arron to email him for pics why would he do that if he had that top pic posted. Those are not the comments for that picture.
Click to expand...

SMH......Those comments are for ALL of the pix that Matt posted of those babies because Shane Castello was begging for pix of them, and Matt posted a bunch......Stop trying to justify his lying.....anyone with half a brain can read what I quoted Matt saying, and what I posted him saying, and see his a complete liar :yesnod:
 
Do you want me to get screenshots of Shane begging for pix and Matt flooding the FB group page with them
 
It doesn't matter what screen shots you post if you keep posting a pic with the comments from another pic..... The thing is you are taking things outta context and trying to cause problems that aren't really there....You can continue to post whatever you want but in 13 pages on this thread you have yet to prove anything

Stop and read your entire thread from beginning to end there is a reason that no one is on your side.......

woohooo he posted some pictures, he ask me to email him for more better pics because I am part of this project.....

I wish I had the money to take you up on the 1100 on your pair from Matt...
 
OK Justin, since you seem to be Matt Martin's flunky, and have so much to say........Please explain to me and everyone here why Matt just posted here that the last time he checked "Abyss" didn't refer to anything genetic.....but on FB he says something completely different...... Why did he lie Justin, since you like to make excuses for him and his deceitful actions.
 
First I want to say that I simply laugh in your face..... Matt Martins Flunky....haha I have never met the man.... I consider him to be a friednly acquaintance and someone I have done business with. Yes I have spoken on his behalf on matters involving buinsess of his that I have something to contribute...... Such as this one, and his frozen feeder buisnes, I am invested in this project and order large quantities of rodents from Matt for my animals so I believe that I have a valid position to speak on these subjects....

Secondly I have seen pics of the offspring and believe my female is gravid now (so hopefully I see babies of my own soon enough) no it has not been proven undeniably genetic.... It would be the responsible thing to work a few generations or enough that you have undeniable proof that it is genetic before you go running your mouth off, and I belive that is what is being done. I do not want some ignoramus that simply cannot understand simple recessive genetics tarnishing a project that can provide to be very fruitful to myself and my family. You purchased into a project with very limited availibility and knew that the genetics were unproven ( if you know half as much as you claim to know you would have known that no axanthic has ever been proven in retics.... I am not a retic person and it took me less than 5 minuites to find that info in a simple search) That being said unless you are either stupid or careless with your investments you knew that it was unproven

Third I want you to do a simple search on Ball python morphs.... look for a combo of desert, hypo, and pastel...Originally produced by Josh Marki in 2011...... He named that genetic combo the Casper Ugly Moo Moo Pants...... That being an example if Matt wants to call his line of anery/axanthic/dark morph the abyss, the unicorn slayer, or Grandmas evil great grandsister..... Is not of your concern, there are plenty of genetic mutations out there with stupid names if you dont like the name produce something new of your own and name it yourself....

As far as naming things that havent been produced I have a few combos I am working on that have yet to be produced and I am thinking of names for them hoping that I am the first one to produce it.... In this hobby/buisness what ever you decide to see it as, that is how you leave your mark. Bob Clark will always be referenced talking about albino retics as Clark Strain.... Kahl albino..... Amir line Yellow belly... Do you get the point yet...
 
jj-mitchell said:
First I want to say that I simply laugh in your face..... Matt Martins Flunky....haha I have never met the man.... I consider him to be a friednly acquaintance and someone I have done business with. Yes I have spoken on his behalf on matters involving buinsess of his that I have something to contribute...... Such as this one, and his frozen feeder buisnes, I am invested in this project and order large quantities of rodents from Matt for my animals so I believe that I have a valid position to speak on these subjects....

Secondly I have seen pics of the offspring and believe my female is gravid now (so hopefully I see babies of my own soon enough) no it has not been proven undeniably genetic.... It would be the responsible thing to work a few generations or enough that you have undeniable proof that it is genetic before you go running your mouth off, and I belive that is what is being done. I do not want some ignoramus that simply cannot understand simple recessive genetics tarnishing a project that can provide to be very fruitful to myself and my family. You purchased into a project with very limited availibility and knew that the genetics were unproven ( if you know half as much as you claim to know you would have known that no axanthic has ever been proven in retics.... I am not a retic person and it took me less than 5 minuites to find that info in a simple search) That being said unless you are either stupid or careless with your investments you knew that it was unproven

Third I want you to do a simple search on Ball python morphs.... look for a combo of desert, hypo, and pastel...Originally produced by Josh Marki in 2011...... He named that genetic combo the Casper Ugly Moo Moo Pants...... That being an example if Matt wants to call his line of anery/axanthic/dark morph the abyss, the unicorn slayer, or Grandmas evil great grandsister..... Is not of your concern, there are plenty of genetic mutations out there with stupid names if you dont like the name produce something new of your own and name it yourself....

As far as naming things that havent been produced I have a few combos I am working on that have yet to be produced and I am thinking of names for them hoping that I am the first one to produce it.... In this hobby/buisness what ever you decide to see it as, that is how you leave your mark. Bob Clark will always be referenced talking about albino retics as Clark Strain.... Kahl albino..... Amir line Yellow belly... Do you get the point yet...
Click to expand...

WOW, Justin......all of that......:rolleyes:
I find it quite amusing as to how you can ramble on like that but can answer a simple question......So I'll ask you again without calling you a name, hopefully that way you'll answer it....Now here's the question.... Please explain to me and everyone here why Matt just posted here that the last time he checked, "Abyss" didn't refer to anything genetic.....but on FB he says something completely different...... Why did he lie to us Justin
 
Angel, I among countless others are bored with your thickheadedness.
Personally, I couldn't give a flying fig what Matt calls Gus new probable morph. I don't care if he has jumped the gun & is calling it a morph before it is proven.

You are becoming annoying to say the least, a troll at worst.

Cut your "losses" and move on.
 
Angel Rojas said:
another "intellegent" reply :rolleyes:
Click to expand...

Angel.


Go outside, take a long walk, get away from the board for a few hours.


Here, you are alienating anyone who might conceivably see your point of view by calling names and by your unrelenting hostility. These are often business discussions, and calm, clear, well thought out posts will do you a world of good better than slinging mud.

Sometimes, we all get on a roll. What is written here is here to stay, but you will find that if you stop, think clearly about what you want to accomplish, use courtesy, you can change the tenor of a conversation and get something positive done.
 
Back
Top