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Bad Guy Matt Martin-Monster Cages sold fake genetics, and now won't answer for it.

Matt, If you were so busy with a "possible" divorce" yesterday, how did you find time to post this

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And why were my brother's post removed, when they were not disrespectful at all

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Oh yeah, and Matt as for that het amel suntiger, you killed that snake. You had the snake in your possesion for almost a month. Now I want you to think long and hard about what you will post, as the call between you and my brother was recorded and will be posted on here
 
The animal never ate so how did i kill it? Lol thats right I don't know how to take care of retics like you said LOL. Thats right LMAO.

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Let me tell you something Matt, NO retic that was feedling like clock work will up and just die in 3 week. And besides Matt, you told my brother how you've hatched thousands of retics, and your telling me you don't know how to feed one.
 
I still want to know why the OP is not focusing on the fact the bets he got were supposedly fake when it was an unproven gene and the first clutch of babies that could prove it genetic has yet to have their first shed. If you were uncomfortable buying un proven genetics and taking that gamble you shouldn't have put money on the line with them. Instead you get them and spend your time on here crying when nothing has had the chance to be proven or not and you ha e not been wronged.
 
And Matt, did you or did you not get pix of the het amel suntiger. I bet he didn't look like he was starving did he, or you wouldn't have wanted him, since you've hatched thousands of retics
 
In my opinion, the OP has jumped the gun and started this thread before anything has come to fruition.

Dude, what part of UNPROVEN do you not understand? When dealing with unproven genetics, it is like gambling in a casino, you don't know the outcome before hand. If the babies haven't shed yet, then it is too early to know anything.
 
Angel. An FYI. Matt never deleted your post's. So most of the argument is completely useless. Another admin did, more because of how you spoke, not what you asked.

Not to mention he had "Time" to post for sale, as he is potentially divorcing. an dneeds money..
 
An admin does NOT have to right to delete ANYTHING pertaining to those snakes, as it has nothing to do with them, and is a legitimate question to that breeders genetics
 
I was there when the snakes in question hatched....saw them myself and all I can say there is something odd about their genetics.
 
And besides, neither one of my brothers posts were disrespectful in any way. I find of funny how Matt could be going through so much yesterday, but find time to post about what is hatching, but not answer simple questions pertaining to HIS genetics.
 
Question to the OP am I mistaken or have u made attacks against 2 other large breeders in the last few weeks? If I am mistaken I apologize but if I am not that could explain someone's desire to not deal with or talk to you kinda like the posts earlier on how you spoke to I believe Shawn Stone.

And yes admins on any page or forum can delete any pos because they simply don't like it.
 
No I'm not. But let use this example.....JJ, you buy a pair of double het "whatevers". You know that the trait has yet to be proven, so you wait on the words of the breeder. You see the the BREEDER has posted on HIS FB group page that the breeding of the double het "whatevers" was a success and now he has eggs. So time go by, and you see the BREEDER post on HIS FB about a clutch that's hatching out right now. You know that this clutch was laid AFTER the clutch of double het "whatevers", so you post and ask the BREEDER, Hey so and so, I see that such and such clutch has hatched, did the double het "whatevers" hatch too. Did it prove out. Then you see that the post that you made on the BREEDERS page was deleted. So you post the same thing my brother posted, which was not disrepectful at all, and yet again your post is deleted.........Now tell me what YOU would think
 
Oh and the part about Matt waiting for the snakes to shed is pure crap....Those snakes are also het albino.....so does that mean he has to wait for an albino to shed to tell it's an albino.....smh
 
The albinos idiot are up already. And the others involved in the project already have the info and will have currect pics tonight and have already seen some of the pics.
 
jj-mitchell said:
I still want to know why the OP is not focusing on the fact the bets he got were supposedly fake when it was an unproven gene and the first clutch of babies that could prove it genetic has yet to have their first shed. If you were uncomfortable buying un proven genetics and taking that gamble you shouldn't have put money on the line with them. Instead you get them and spend your time on here crying when nothing has had the chance to be proven or not and you ha e not been wronged.
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Well said. A bad guy thread? For what?
In my opinion the OP's title here amounts to an actionable defamation unless he can prove what he said is true.

Put up or shut up.
 
Angel Rojas said:
No I'm not. But let use this example.....JJ, you buy a pair of double het "whatevers". You know that the trait has yet to be proven, so you wait on the words of the breeder. You see the the BREEDER has posted on HIS FB group page that the breeding of the double het "whatevers" was a success and now he has eggs. So time go by, and you see the BREEDER post on HIS FB about a clutch that's hatching out right now. You know that this clutch was laid AFTER the clutch of double het "whatevers", so you post and ask the BREEDER, Hey so and so, I see that such and such clutch has hatched, did the double het "whatevers" hatch too. Did it prove out. Then you see that the post that you made on the BREEDERS page was deleted. So you post the same thing my brother posted, which was not disrepectful at all, and yet again your post is deleted.........Now tell me what YOU would think
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Sir I can say I have been in the situation of waiting on unproven genetics to prove out I am involved in this project. And rather than complaining I simply picked up the phone to talk to Matt who has always been upfront with me and he said he missed the double but wants to wait till babies shed to see what else is there. Would you like him to announce the axanthic proved out because he has dark looking animals in the egg and the. Have to retract that later because a darker than average baby combined with hope made him think it did. Or the other way around say no it didnt prove out and be wrong about that. Genetic research and development man it takes time. And as far as the sarcasm congratulations I am glad you can tell an albino from a normal that's a wicked talent!

Any way back to the real world and loosing the sarcasm myself it is something wise people do to prevent themselves from looking a fool double check before you open your mouth think before you act.
 
Lucille said:
Well said. A bad guy thread? For what?
In my opinion the OP's title here amounts to an actionable defamation unless he can prove what he said is true.

Put up or shut up.
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That would be quite easy. My brother has a pair of '09 double het "blizzards". I find it funny how in '09 and '07 when Matt Martin hatched them out they were het albino superdwarfs. Now magically over night they are het "blizzards"....smh.... That would be like me selling you a boa that's het albino, and then turn around and say to you that it's het blizzard, just because the father was a little darker. No self-respecting breeder would EVER sell and label a snake as "het" for anything until he proved it out.

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