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MGREPTILES Trouble with shipment

MGReptiles said:
I would suggest all here not to comment any futher and let this thread die.



Matt this problem isn't going to just "go away and die". It will continue to pop up and happen unless you are willing to change how you work your business. First off by not treating your past, present, and possible future customers like dirt. Also working on getting things shipped out a.s.a.p along with not selling products that you don't have in stock. I've never seen a business man come to a public forum like this one and carry on, say, and do the things you have done. Have I had a problem with getting something from you? Oh yes, about a year ago. Will I give you business again, no and specially never again after coming here and reading what I have. I'm completly shocked how a grown business man who is all about and loves God carries himself. Not good at all Matt, not good at all.
 
MGReptiles said:
I cannot comment on that thread yet but I will when it is all said and done but I can say the poster was refunded the day we received the return and seems to be trying to get double refunded and then posts what seems to be damaging items through out the net.. You need to know all the little secrets before you post Dennis... I am done here as I just cant take it.. For those of you that are my enemy I pray for you, for those that are my friend I always do! I have done no wrong here at all.. I would suggest all here not to comment any futher and let this thread die.

I know a little more than you might think. Also, I can count the number of complaints in that one thread. There is not just ONE new one in that thread. What did the rest of them do and why are they out to get you?

Let’s wrap this up.

Today, 03:25 PM
Default Re: MG Reptiles-not a good experience
1/31/07 C0036758
I am making you all aware that I know of this thread. I cannot comment on any of the comments at this time but will in the near future. I was directed to this thread by 4 people that informed me that they cannot buy from our company as a direct result of this thread. I am demanding an immediate cease and disist of all communication on this forum. All futher communication should be directed to me personally via US certified mail.
Thank you for your time!
Matt Graybeal
DBA MG Reptiles
PO box 132
Peytona, WV 25154

In my opinion, this attempt to stifle the experiences and complaints of customers is hideous.

I was sympathetic to Matt even up to and including the start of this thread. It’s not a secret that Recently,Matt has been experiencing the same problems reported here on other forums.

It is also no secret that he has been losing previous customers to another company. It is also apparent that Matt has been making an effort to denigrate his competition with extremely suggestive emails.
In order to avoid hearsay and any confidentiality on my part; one only needs to reference the email posted here to understand what’s going on.

“If you buy from reptile basicis you are pretty much buying from me but I just dont get the money.”

It’s not hard to add things up.

With the problems he is having with customers, competitors and other sites, he makes an effort to come to Fauna to arrange some sort of "understanding” with another competitor on this site.
Who does he mention in that email? Honestly, I think everyone can do the math here.

Part of my post on this thread before I resurrected it.


Dennis Hultman said:
For what it is worth, I have done business with Matt and had no problems. I don’t believe him to be a dishonest person or a liar, which has been presented here. However, I do believe he could have handled this situation better.


It is obvious that Matt early on has taken his reputation seriously and in the past has excelled at customer service. There have been mention in this thread of other bad guy posts but also one should note he also has some of the longest good posts as well. I mention this not to detract from the recent problems in communication Matt has had, but to help him understand the current outlook that many have taken on his business.

Matt, I believe you worked hard to establish a good business reputation. I also believe you have outgrown your current resources. There is no other way to explain all the previous posts about your fast shipping times and excellent customer service to the more recent posts of long delays. Regardless, something has changed. Sometimes it we become caught up in the moment with no foresight on the outcome.

Anyway, past dealings will only carry you so far. In general, people only remember what you have done for them recently and how you handle the tuff situations instead of all the ones that go according to plan.
The buying public, (people) are diverse and when in business you have to decide how you were cater to the public as a whole. You can be as tight as you want on your policies and have a smaller customer base that is easier to deal with than the general public.

Matt, I don’t believe anyone should be subjected to abuse and some people will try to take advantage of a business. The question you have to ask yourself is, should you have let this situation get to that point?

When you came to the realization that you messed up on the shipping, do you give the customer the benefit of the doubt or assume he is just being difficult? Ken also expressed in his original email to you his timeline needs. The level of service you give at this point is what people or going to remember. The point you draw the line at customer service is completely up to you but have no doubts it will effect your bottom-line more than if you take a loss on this one order or not.

I just call them like I see them. You were absolutely wronged in other situations here but in this one you could have chosen for it not to escalate to a thread on the BOI.

Instead of correcting the ongoing customer service problems, he has now chosen to make an attempt at silencing them. Matt made his reputation here, and destroyed it, as far as I’m concerned.


Chameleon Company said:
Matt,
I would agree that this thread was resurrected over an issue that was not a direct customer complaint, and had to do with an offense taken to an email you sent regarding pricing. It would also have been well down the page again if your response had been short and sweet, and if I were your publicist, I'd have not replied at all. A consistent theme of every flare-up involving you in any forum is other respected members, who have no dog in the hunt, suggesting you just walk away from your keyboard. You are already a target, like it or not. Consider keeping a low profile to your enemies, if you must expose one at all.
As I said previously, Dennis T. stated I could post the emails if I wish, but the reason for my post, In my opinion, relate directly and indirectly at the customer service issues and with others in the business as well.

Matt has stated countless times that his competition is out to get him. They are spreading lies about him. It would seem the only evidence to be found is the opposite.

I never considered Matt an enemy of mine and have always stated good things about him. But, I can add just fine and I don't like what the total looks like. Anyway, those are my thoughts. The reasonings why, I chose to post.

I believe now, he is a detriment to his customers and is out to hurt others in his business by unethical means. That is my opinion and up to each reader here to decide for themselves.

MGReptiles said:
I would suggest all here not to comment any futher and let this thread die.
:shrug01:
MGReptiles said:
I am demanding an immediate cease and disist of all communication on this forum. All futher communication should be directed to me personally via US certified mail.
 
Dennis,
At the same time, I hope that you can appreciate the concerns of a few here that you were not one of the currently wronged customers, yet chose to become a self-appointed advocate for them. I realize you may have felt a need to re-address earlier supportive positions that you had taken regarding Matt, but those directly wronged are also quite capable of speaking for themselves. There's black and white here, but also a lot of gray as well, and a few frowns.
 
Chameleon Company said:
Dennis,
At the same time, I hope that you can appreciate the concerns of a few here that you were not one of the currently wronged customers, yet chose to become a self-appointed advocate for them. I realize you may have felt a need to re-address earlier supportive positions that you had taken regarding Matt, but those directly wronged are also quite capable of speaking for themselves. There's black and white here, but also a lot of gray as well, and a few frowns.
I understand your comments. At the same time your post illustrates an important comment made by you and others. My dog wasn't fighting either.
 
I understand your comments. At the same time your post illustrates an important comment made by you and others that may also have benefited the situations at hand. My dog wasn't fighting either.

brain faster than the hand
 
Jim hate to say it but you of all people shouldn't comment on Dennis taking this up for others..

This past year we have seen more than one supposed good guy go south. We also saw that when the outing began many members here defended said bad guys at first. I'm not commenting here on whether Matt is or isn't a bad guy. This has made many here sort of touchy when it comes to one of the good guys with some tarnish. Some hang back before posting and others tear right in. We watched Matt begin to implode a while back and from his responses here it is accelerating, it sucks to see a guy who had everyones respect sink the way he is doing..

Should this info Dennis presented have been posted here?? I think so it shows the continuation of a pattern of behaviour by Matt and yes his business practices too, that are considered by many to be to put it mildly Lacking. People should know these things about someone they have done or were thinking of doing business with... Randy
 
Yea Jim and when we do speak out about dealings with Matt ..allot of us were bashed for it..

Like here i told what happened to me and my karma was knocked back again..You guys that are higher up the pole ,don't have to worry about it.You have been here longer...And as far as Matt he has brought up old post over and over..I have seen him do it...It took me over 6 weeks to get everything from him one time and i used to do allot of business with him..Now i will never do it again..You live and learn so go ahead Matt take away some more of my karma points ..My Karma in life is what counts and you can't take that..
 
VanZwedenReptiles said:
Yea Jim and when we do speak out about dealings with Matt ..allot of us were bashed for it..

Like here i told what happened to me and my karma was knocked back again..You guys that are higher up the pole ,don't have to worry about it.You have been here longer...And as far as Matt he has brought up old post over and over..I have seen him do it...It took me over 6 weeks to get everything from him one time and i used to do allot of business with him..Now i will never do it again..You live and learn so go ahead Matt take away some more of my karma points ..My Karma in life is what counts and you can't take that..
Greg, let me clue you in on something.

The karma numbers, the colour of your little boxes, only carry weight with those newbies who haven't gotten to know you.

I speak from experiance. I've been at the top and damn near the bottom but folks who know me don't go by my point total and I suspect that I am not alone in being judged that way.

Laugh it off and forge ahead.

Trader ratings are important. Karma is subject to misuse and should not be given too much credence.
 
Well, I have to applaud Dennis for completely understanding what I said. I could say that I have mixed feelings about the import of damaging info by a third party. A more accurate description would be that it has its pros and cons .... always will. Dennis knows this, and had to work within those perceptions. Greg, in your situation, and you recall it far better than I, but I recall it as an example that its not just what is presented, but how it is presented. Same for MG. He has business issues etc to resolve. But there are very mixed opinions about whether or not his biggest problems are those revelations, or how he responds in forum to criticisms, warranted and otherwise. Frankly Randy, your opinion is noted, but I of all people should comment about this. Dennis and I have our own little love-hate thing going. We manage with it.

Jeez Wes, but once again a most self-serving post by you. To paraphrase you, "trader ratings are what is most important, and its the other stuff that is manipulated" !! Well, that would seem to put a different light on your numbers ! It was also the same light that caused many to "buy with confidence" from TSE, with his enormous trader ratings !! And right here, MG Reptiles has the highest trader rating in Fauna !!!

"Greg, let me clue you in on something" ..... :rofl:

............. Don't put much weight in any of it. :)
 
Jim said""
"Greg, let me clue you in on something" .....

............. Don't put much weight in any of it. "'
There you go some good advice Greg, seems you really never know what the people on the other end of this connection are really like... Chris J.. being a very good example.... Randy
 
Matt, what is going on? I just saw this.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...erid=mgreptiles

The last one was yesterday. :rolleyes:

You have always seemed like a good guy and I have not had a problem the times I have ordered from you but lately it looks like your business is spiralling downward out of control.

You need to address these things. It seems everywhere you go lately there are unhappy customers.

Don't let whatever has been going on destroy your reputation. You need to take positive, concrete steps to fix the negative light you are in right now.
 
what says ya Matt? This one was dated Feb-01-07. So it is all old, this one is far from old. :rolleyes:
 
Matt,

You need to stop threatening to sue all these people. If you're going to do it, that's your choice, but stop talking about it.
 
It is way past the time of giving this guy any benefit of the doubt. The amount of people who have seen less than crappy service from him, including myself, is just mind boggling.

It is really simple at this point, if you need quality supplies at a good price without getting jerked around go elsewhere. The Bean Farm, Reptile Basics, Big Apple, Reptile Tubs..... the list is long of companies that have STELLAR track records of treating their customers right. There is no reason for people to keep dealing with this guy.
 
Just so happens, I talked to the guy about 10 minutes after he posted on Matt's trader rating yesterday. His name is John and I gave him a link here. Funny he has been calling and emailing trying to get a hold of Matt but can't get a hold of him. At the exact same time Matt was here stating he doesnt have any customer service issues.
Matt, John would appreciate you answering his calls. He didn't want to post anything negative. If you would have talked to him, You know, something responsible sellers do with their buyers, he probably wouldn't have posted a negative.
 
Although I have personally bought from MG and would never do so again, as I I've said in some of the older threads, it seems the eBay thing doesn't hold too much water. Parts of the rack deal he sold in the auction were stated new and old. Looks to me the buyer didn't read the auction carefully enough and assumed he was getting brand new gear. Not convinced this makes Matt a bad guy/seller to do biz with, in this incident at least. Doesn't get him off the hook with my experience and that of the many others who have come out of the wood work though.

Matt Jillson
 
mattjillson said:
Although I have personally bought from MG and would never do so again, as I I've said in some of the older threads, it seems the eBay thing doesn't hold too much water. Parts of the rack deal he sold in the auction were stated new and old. Looks to me the buyer didn't read the auction carefully enough and assumed he was getting brand new gear. Not convinced this makes Matt a bad guy/seller to do biz with, in this incident at least. Doesn't get him off the hook with my experience and that of the many others who have come out of the wood work though.

Matt Jillson

It matters little, the customer was not happy. He tried to contact Matt, but Matt did not want to respond. This is far from what we call a great seller. Oh, I almost forgot, then when they do say something he threatened to sue them.

No Matt, this thread will not just go away.

This is from E-Bay:

NO RETURN CALLS, and PARTS ARE ALL USED not NEW like he stated, DO NOT BUY!!
Buyer eartheatersrule( 20) Feb-01-07 10:45 300070352081

Reply by mgreptiles: Items were new and use as stated!!! Lying will only get you in court!
 
mattjillson said:
Although I have personally bought from MG and would never do so again, as I I've said in some of the older threads, it seems the eBay thing doesn't hold too much water. Parts of the rack deal he sold in the auction were stated new and old. Looks to me the buyer didn't read the auction carefully enough and assumed he was getting brand new gear. Not convinced this makes Matt a bad guy/seller to do biz with, in this incident at least. Doesn't get him off the hook with my experience and that of the many others who have come out of the wood work though.

Matt Jillson
The guy wanted to discuss the condition of some of the "used" merchandise and some of the stuff that was listed as some "used" and some "not". But Matt instead threaten to sue him without contacting him first.
 
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