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Mike Greathouse [you decide]

I think a few of you need to go back and read the posts by this user, or should I say users: Sledgehammer", "Shrillomn", and "Walk of Life"

Do a search, tell me that it was not a hidden attack against this site and members. I think some of you might of forgot, or have not read the posts.

As for Wes, he was banned a few times for sticking up for himself against this hidden attacker, just something to think about.
 
varnyard said:
That is funny John, I will say this about Wes, Chuck, Sammy and myself. If we have a problem we are all right up front. We say what we think with our "REAL" names. None of us run around like a hidden back stabber, or cover the tracks from someone that does.

I might not be shy, but no one speaks for me. I need no monkey, or three hidden troll accounts.

I was pretty much done here but your post made me want to clarify two things Bobby.

1.) My post was not in any way speaking for Mike. I was speaking for myself and myself alone. Mike may or may not choose to answer this idiocy. That is his call and no concern of mine.

2.) In my post, you would actually be the monkey's monkey Bobby...sorry it wasn't put more simply
 
Suncoast Herpetological said:
I was pretty much done here but your post made me want to clarify two things Bobby.

1.) My post was not in any way speaking for Mike. I was speaking for myself and myself alone. Mike may or may not choose to answer this idiocy. That is his call and no concern of mine.

2.) In my post, you would actually be the monkey's monkey Bobby...sorry it wasn't put more simply

Well John, what nickname do you call Mike? I mean he has so many.

As for idiocy in responding, funny how that was not the case when your troll was hidden. Keep humping the football John... ;)
 
Sometimes I wish the BOI was as simple as:
A. I bought a reptile from (fill in name) and it was a positive experience. Here are the facts...
B. I bought a reptile from (fill in name) and it was a terrible experience. Here are the facts...

I've been a member (mostly silent) on this site for a while now. I use this site mainly to decide whether or not I want to buy a reptile from someone based on others' experiences. It's late, I'm tired and there have been so many posts & replies. To sum it up, it appears that Mike is simply being accused of using multiple user names. Someone please correct if I am wrong but does this thread qualify for the BOI since it does not have anything to do with an actual business transaction?
 
I will tell you, I don't have much for a back stabber. Anyone is welcome to slice it anyway they see fit, but it does not matter how many times you cut is, it is still nothing but a hidden attack.

John, you say Mike would say anything with his real name, and anything said when he was trolling was nothing Mike would not say. I say if you think that, then your eyes are turning mighty brown. Mike has never attacked me anywhere, but he did when he was playing king troll. Now you can say, aw, well, it don't matter really. That is fine, but I would ask you why Mike should hide his true feelings when he was said to be a friend?

Does the actions show good morals? Is it OK to play that game of hidden garbage attacks?

I know John, I am the bag guy by going by my real name, but Mike is a much better man by playing the king hidden troll, but that's OK, I think I see what some more people are all about. Each day I loose a little more respect for some of the so-called good guys here, need anyone ask why?
 
Someone please correct if I am wrong but does this thread qualify for the BOI since it does not have anything to do with an actual business transaction?

Carl, Rich started this thread and he owns this site so it does qualify as a business transaction between Mike and Rich.
 
carl3 said:
Sometimes I wish the BOI was as simple as:
A. I bought a reptile from (fill in name) and it was a positive experience. Here are the facts...
B. I bought a reptile from (fill in name) and it was a terrible experience. Here are the facts...

I've been a member (mostly silent) on this site for a while now. I use this site mainly to decide whether or not I want to buy a reptile from someone based on others' experiences. It's late, I'm tired and there have been so many posts & replies. To sum it up, it appears that Mike is simply being accused of using multiple user names. Someone please correct if I am wrong but does this thread qualify for the BOI since it does not have anything to do with an actual business transaction?

AMEN!!!

now i will agree with Bobby that if Mike is said to be a friend to him, and did personally attack him under a guise then that is mighty low. if someone has a problem with me, i would want them to "man up" and tell me so that we could amicably get past "said" problem... i can understand why you might be hostile a bit Bobby, honestly i can, but maybe, just maybe there is some mistake???
i don't want to play devil's advocate or any side here in any way, as i want to remain a neutral party in all of this discussion, but things are getting a bit out of hand.
Guys we are all here on this site to oust the bad guys, and yes, i will admit that i have been party to some of the lynching's here in the past, but i am also not the same man today as i was yesterday... this comes with growing.
i wish that there were some way that this forum could get on track somehow as the person i quoted just mentioned as it would be much simpler. we all let our pride get the best of us, and rile us up, and then these threads turn into hundred page threads of what i deem to be garbage at times... we all need to have a self realization as to just what it is we are trying to accomplish by using this site. to me, simply put, it would be the self preservation of our hobby. so that scam artists and the like have no place in this hobby at all. there are ALOT of good people that frequent these forums that IMO instead of personal character flaws, and outright attacks need to ban and pull together as a cohesive unit and fight the TRUE scumbags. I personally do not feel as if Mike is one of those, maybe not the most tactful in doing such as it seems he might have done, but none the less, not what i would particularly deem a bad guy (business wise). a bit unethical maybe, but certainly not someone whom is not to be trusted. i have never done business with Mike nor have i ever had any real contact with him, but have seen his name praised enough to know that i wouldn't hesitate in sending him money out of my pocket. i feel the same way about Bobby as well. We all have differences in opinion, and not all of us are going to see completely eye to eye, but at the same time, we ARE ALL in the same hobby, and that in itself should pull us together enough to stop threads like this one from turning into a sheer lynching, and an all-out attack on another one of us that despite a poor choice in being tactful, truly is a good guy...

matthew watkins

p.s. i hope i made any sense at all, it's late and my mind is racing at a million miles a minute.
i LONG for sleep!!!
 
Mike has never attacked me anywhere, but he did when he was playing king troll. Now you can say, aw, well, it don't matter really. That is fine, but I would ask you why Mike should hide his true feelings when he was said to be a friend?

If it does turn out that Mike has these alias' then this statement would become pretty important to me. Bobby, can you point out a post where either Shrillomn or Sledgehammer attacked you?
 
varnyard said:
IMike has never attacked me anywhere, but he did when he was playing king troll.

You really care what shmitty has to say about you or me or Wes? lol. Just be yourself man and don't worry about him. He didn't have the balls back then to tell you or me or Wes what he really thought until today. Took him 4 years to build up enough courage to let me know that I rub him the wrong way and call me a monkey. A :censored: monkey? Ha! I love it.

And is it really that odd his closest friend doesn't have any courage either?

If he thinks I'm a crazy ass monkey its OK with me. I am I guess. I'm happy the way I am. I like being around other crazy ass monkeys too. And now that I know my monkey posts aggravate him I'll just post whenever he posts to aggravate him some more.

Ahhh yeah....the monkeys life isn't so bad when you figure out how to pop guys like shmitty in the head with a load of your own crap. Its even better when the stupid SOB's keep coming back for another visit. Like...the monkey has somehow changed and it will be a different experience. And off they go with a face full of crap again......
 
carl3 said:
Someone please correct if I am wrong but does this thread qualify for the BOI since it does not have anything to do with an actual business transaction?


As I stated earlier, my concerns since it was determined that the evidence STRONGLY pointed to Mike Greathouse being behind the trolling personalities on this site, put me in a position of having to isolate the hosting domains that Mike was the admin of, from my working sites related to my own business concerns. The animosity evident was worrisome enough that I felt it prudent to protect my sites from a person who POTENTIALLY could cause a lot of damage with the access they had to the server itself via CGI scripting. This was a BUSINESS related circumstance, and did cost me substantially more on a monthly basis to host those domains on a separate server rather than sharing the expense on my utility server, as I was originally doing. Quite simply, Mike's alleged actions combined with the potential for REAL harm cost me money in order to take preventative measures.

Could I have simply terminated his hosting? Well his I could, easily, but there were several others whom he was maintaining that I would have had to give the boot as well. I just didn't feel comfortable doing it that way. So biting the bullet on another server seemed the best way to handle it, even though it was the more expensive route to take.

I also have recommended BUSINESS related contacts to Mike for website development, and although I never made any money off of those referrals, there is still the BUSINESS issue of my giving my recommendation concerning him. So, in effect, my referral could reflect on my own sound judgment if those persons in any way have cause to regret taking my advice.

Is there any evidence of Mike causing actual problems in the manner of affecting this site? No, nothing concrete, only circumstantial and possibly coincidental. But a potential, nonetheless, that could not be ignored. In determining risk, you have to consider three things: (1) motive, (2) capability, and (3) accessibility. The posts made under the guise of the trolls proved #1. I felt pretty confident that based on Mike's work with websites, that he satisfied #2. And his having access to my server through CGI scripting on his own domain and those he managed for others, satisfied #3. I really had no other choice but to recognize the risk and do my best to deal with it.

Further, Mike had been requested to cease and desist with this manner of trolling after being confronted with the suspicions founded on facts detailed in this thread. He was made aware of this evidence pointing to him via Jay and myself, which PLAINLY indicated that we knew what he was doing. When he obviously refused, stronger measures were certainly needed, which is where this thread comes in.

I specifically avoided using the [BAD BUY] label on this thread simply because I really did not think it appropriate, under the circumstances. I don't really think Mike is a bad guy at all. But he has some issues that are apparently clouding his judgment in his relationship with this site and the members within it. His manner of choice for expressing them here simply have to stop.

THAT is what this thread is hoped to accomplish. To apply the peer pressure power of the BOI to convince him that if he is in fact engaging in trolling this site via false registration, to STOP before more damage is inflicted on both sides of the aisle.
 
WebSlave said:
As I stated earlier, my concerns since it was determined that the evidence STRONGLY pointed to Mike Greathouse being behind the trolling personalities on this site, put me in a position of having to isolate the hosting domains that Mike was the admin of, from my working sites related to my own business concerns. The animosity evident was worrisome enough that I felt it prudent to protect my sites from a person who POTENTIALLY could cause a lot of damage with the access they had to the server itself via CGI scripting. This was a BUSINESS related circumstance, and did cost me substantially more on a monthly basis to host those domains on a separate server rather than sharing the expense on my utility server, as I was originally doing. Quite simply, Mike's alleged actions combined with the potential for REAL harm cost me money in order to take preventative measures.

Could I have simply terminated his hosting? Well his I could, easily, but there were several others whom he was maintaining that I would have had to give the boot as well. I just didn't feel comfortable doing it that way. So biting the bullet on another server seemed the best way to handle it, even though it was the more expensive route to take.

I also have recommended BUSINESS related contacts to Mike for website development, and although I never made any money off of those referrals, there is still the BUSINESS issue of my giving my recommendation concerning him. So, in effect, my referral could reflect on my own sound judgment if those persons in any way have cause to regret taking my advice.

Is there any evidence of Mike causing actual problems in the manner of affecting this site? No, nothing concrete, only circumstantial and possibly coincidental. But a potential, nonetheless, that could not be ignored. In determining risk, you have to consider three things: (1) motive, (2) capability, and (3) accessibility. The posts made under the guise of the trolls proved #1. I felt pretty confident that based on Mike's work with websites, that he satisfied #2. And his having access to my server through CGI scripting on his own domain and those he managed for others, satisfied #3. I really had no other choice but to recognize the risk and do my best to deal with it.

Further, Mike had been requested to cease and desist with this manner of trolling after being confronted with the suspicions founded on facts detailed in this thread. He was made aware of this evidence pointing to him via Jay and myself, which PLAINLY indicated that we knew what he was doing. When he obviously refused, stronger measures were certainly needed, which is where this thread comes in.

I specifically avoided using the [BAD BUY] label on this thread simply because I really did not think it appropriate, under the circumstances. I don't really think Mike is a bad guy at all. But he has some issues that are apparently clouding his judgment in his relationship with this site and the members within it. His manner of choice for expressing them here simply have to stop.

THAT is what this thread is hoped to accomplish. To apply the peer pressure power of the BOI to convince him that if he is in fact engaging in trolling this site via false registration, to STOP before more damage is inflicted on both sides of the aisle.


well stated...
 
Hey Stardust, I dont mind the warning points for profanity, but would you mind pointing out what word I used in my above post that you defined as profanity?

Was it: ass, SOB, crap? Or was it the use of a censored icon?
 
critical bill said:
Hey Stardust, I dont mind the warning points for profanity, but would you mind pointing out what word I used in my above post that you defined as profanity?

Was it: ass, SOB, crap? Or was it the use of a censored icon?

sometimes people should just not be granted any authority... power tends to go to alot of peoples heads. hence the reason i have not yet contributed much other than my experiences in dealings with other herpers on this site.
i personally saw nothing wrong with that post, other than the snide remarks about john. keep in mind though i am being neutral and trying to not biasly say anything about anyone as i know neither of you.
i stick to my first post in this thread, and the simple meaning behind it all, "why can't we all just get along"??? ;-)

matthew watkins
 
critical bill said:
Hey Stardust, I dont mind the warning points for profanity, but would you mind pointing out what word I used in my above post that you defined as profanity?

Was it: ass, SOB, crap? Or was it the use of a censored icon?

Never mind honey! I figured it out. I said BALLS. I didnt see it at first but I did say BALLS.

Is nuts ok? Can I say nuts? For next time...ya know?
 
brodie691 said:
sometimes people should just not be granted any authority... power tends to go to alot of peoples heads. hence the reason i have not yet contributed much other than my experiences in dealings with other herpers on this site.
i personally saw nothing wrong with that post, other than the snide remarks about john. keep in mind though i am being neutral and trying to not biasly say anything about anyone as i know neither of you.
i stick to my first post in this thread, and the simple meaning behind it all, "why can't we all just get along"??? ;-)

matthew watkins

Well thank you Matt! You'd make a good monkey! You wanna join our club? We offer protection. We have all the bananas. ;)
 
I was surprised and dumbfounded when I first found out about this mess. I took some time to reflect on how I felt.

Mike is an administrator on my site which I also host through him. Mike has helped me so much with my site! He offered to do this and I greatly appreciate his efforts. He has been very patient with me. I have the computer savvy of a hermit crab and without Mike I would be screwed. This holds a tremendous amount of weight with me.

Yup, it looks like Mike did some trolling here. That doesn't change my opinion of him or the fact that I consider him my friend.

Mike has done an awful lot of good for the herp community.
 
kmurphy said:
If it does turn out that Mike has these alias' then this statement would become pretty important to me. Bobby, can you point out a post where either Shrillomn or Sledgehammer attacked you?

Kevin there is many of them, just do a search one has 50 something posts the other 70 something. There are plenty of them, even a thread started about me.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93175

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=510429#post510429

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=486622#post486622

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=453144#post453144

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=509253&postcount=27

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=466411&postcount=131



Shrillomn: Just to set the record straight.
I am not here to ridicule any particular individual.
The person whose identity I have chosen to emulate is, in my opinion, a good guy.

Shrillomn: I carefully targeted the one person I consider to be
the most damaging to the continued credibility of this site.

So mike would say anything with the name Mike G.?
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=482162&postcount=164
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=485359&postcount=50

It is good to see the true colors of a man.

Now in the next two, he gets on to Wes for name calling, but you see above how he attacked Kieth with some very ugly names.

Also, this is where he claims to get an email from himself:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=509501&postcount=34
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=509650&postcount=41

Here to help the site? You be the judge.
 
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