Bad Guy Mike Matson (Mike's Phat Frogs) sold me a WC snake as CB

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Exactly . He is so delusional he can't keep his lies straight.

 

[Pasodama]

They do? Well I will cover it again. Especially since I am the one that posted the link in the first place. And for the record i breed aquatic amphibians for a living so I actually know quite a bit about water quality and testing. And focusing on the water test is not really a make or break bad guy violation. It just shows ignorance

I have a very low opinion of the guy but if my mention, of the incorrect testing does not meet with your approval, then ...

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[Pasodama]

Speaking of lying, he and his mindless mob tried to backpedal a bit on the age thing. When some people had an issue with him going after a minor, he said that no one knew how old she was until after the video. That's kinda funny, since around the 0:28 mark of the video he references her being 16. He also clearly acknowledged knowing she was a minor in the screenshots he posted of their correspondence that led up to him making the video.

Very true.

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[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

I like how he talks in Spanish and references people watching the video not understanding him and apologizing for not having better mastery of the language. Then uses terms at the end telling people they don't have the juevos. Half mexican and a quarter spanish. Mike if you would actually stop hiding from Yusuke serving you with papers regarding the lawsuit he won against you for 3900$ I would have the Juevos to approach you at a show. Would you like me to explain to you what a noob really is? I've been doing this for almost 30 years and I take my own path. I didn't become a "big time" pacman frog breeder by tricking a real veteran of the honby into showing me the secret recipe for hormone inducing pacmans. After buying a bunch of frogs from Yusuke to breed. Get some time and actual accomplishments under your belt before you start calling people newbs. Talking down to them like you're hot stuff.

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

I have a very low opinion of the guy but if my mention, of the incorrect testing does not meet with your approval, then ...

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What are you talking about. Let's focus on the actual thread. If you don't recall you are the one who tried to stifle me by telling me to basically stop talking about mike matsons treatment of a teenager, because other members already had that covered. This thread isn't about me and you. And frankly you don't have the right to silence my opinion or statement because other people " have that covered"

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Specifically referring to post 155 of yours

 

[Pasodama]

What are you talking about. Let's focus on the actual thread. If you don't recall you are the one who tried to stifle me by telling me to basically stop talking about mike matsons treatment of a teenager, because other members already had that covered. This thread isn't about me and you. And frankly you don't have the right to silence my opinion or statement because other people " have that covered"

What are YOU talking about?
I NEVER tried to stifle you or anyone! Certainly did not TELL you to stop talking about it!
I made a statement of why I did not comment, about the treatment of a teenager, at that time.

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[Pasodama]

To me, it seemed you had a problem with my not talking about bashing a teenager but, instead, mentioned the incorrect testing procedure. I stated why I had not (at the time I mentioned the incorrect testing procedure).

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[Snake-Queen]

What are YOU talking about?

I NEVER tried to stifle you or anyone! Certainly did not TELL you to stop talking about it!

I made a statement of why I did not comment, about the treatment of a teenager, at that time.



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It was easy to misinterpret … I did. I came to the same conclusion as well.

I apologize for that.


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[Beyond GenetiX]

Jay

The point Deb and I are talking about is in conjunction with your point, not to supercede it. I know that at least we are in agreement with each other, you included. This thread was not started about Mike's treatment of teenagers but know one told you to get back on topic. WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE!

 

[Pasodama]

It was easy to misinterpret … I did. I came to the same conclusion as well.

I apologize for that.

Thanks.
I am sorry that I was not clearer.

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[Beyond GenetiX]

Stupid spell check "know" should have been "no".

 

[Pasodama]

And focusing on the water test is not really a make or break bad guy violation. It just shows ignorance

BTW He was not ignorant since he mentioned something he was supposed to do, with the testing, and still did not do it.
Just saying. Not trying to start anything.
Unless you meant it just shows my ignorance.

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[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Glad we are all in agreement and on the same page let's get back to matson. And jet it doesn't matter what specifically a thread was started for or about. It has been stated over and over again that mods and the forum creator would prefer all posts about a specific person be on one thread instead of multiple different ones so as long as the subject is mike matson that's all that matters.

Pasoderma your post should have included I and not been a rebuttal to a quote. It was easily misinterpreted. Anyway sorry for the miscommunication now on with the show.

Mike matson has had an almost 10 year history of bullying and manipulating. And now he mistakenly thinks he has finally earned the ego he's always had. Hypocrisy runs deep mike matson. You tell Rick guitierez to take you to court so he can own you. Well Yusuke owned you in court so pay up. Stop making bs excuses and blaming him for the reason you aren't paying. And stop trying to intimidate women while you're at it.

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

BTW He was not ignorant since he mentioned something he was supposed to do, with the testing, and still did not do it.
Just saying. Not trying to start anything.
Unless you meant it just shows my ignorance.

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I would have told you specifically if my reference to ignorance was directed at you.

Anyway it actually shows ignorance and lack of self control on mikes part. He was so eager to bash a little girl in his fit of rage he didn't have the patience to shake the damn vial his own states amount of time. I mean seriously the hair on your arm was standing up because you were so mad? And you showed it on video? And the. Said you do all this for the kids???

 

[Pasodama]

I would have told you specifically if my reference to ignorance was directed at you.

Anyway it actually shows ignorance and lack of self control on mikes part. He was so eager to bash a little girl in his fit of rage he didn't have the patience to shake the damn vial his own states amount of time. I mean seriously the hair on your arm was standing up because you were so mad? And you showed it on video? And the. Said you do all this for the kids???

Was just trying to lighten the mood a bit.

I agree. I, too, believe his impatience/eagerness, to "bash" a young girl, probably played a part in his error.

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[Lucille]

intimidate women

I don't think there is any question that he attempts this, and when he gets warned here, he prances over to his minions on fb and they try it there.
I think examples and screen shots of that sort of behavior need to be sent to businesses and government entities that deal with him just in case they don't stop by here. I'm glad to be of service
I'm sure some of those people have women and youngsters in their families. And older people too.

 

[BeauBoi]

You know I have fought the urge to get involved in matsons ridiculous antics. I have watched him for years try to weasel his way around. I have watched him from his start on getting pacmans to where he is today. The ego is not earned. Calling people noobs or newbies is laughable for someone who is so wet behind the ears still. And his manipulation and behind the scenes choreography of getting people to attack others on his behalf is a joke. You will never have respect from real experienced keepers because you'll never earn it. I have watched you continuously bait people and urge them to take you to court where you will own them. Well Yusuke murai Took YOU to court and one a 3900$ judgement against you. Effectively owning you in court. And now you avoid being served with the next step which will be him placing a Lein on you.you bash him everywhere lying about his frogs. You never had any issues with them until you couldn't come up with the money to pay what you owed. And how is it that his frogs are so bad but yours are so great when the vast majority of your breeding stock came from him? Anyway try to stay out if it but can't anymore because you threw my friend bob under the bus and tried to blame him for things you do wrong because you aren't man enough to take the blame for anything you do. I mean seriously domyou ever not deflect or blame someone else for the things you do? You have a long history of acting stupid and ripping people off. Playing manipulative games and being coy. But the thing that pushed me over the edge was when you posted a ten minute ranting attack on a child on your facebook page. And afterwords incited a cyber bullying frenzy of 200 comments attacking a little girl and calling her names. Cussing at a child and naming her? That's your mature approach to disproving someone's alligations? Over nitrate??? Are you serious? If anyone ever made a video like that about my daughter (especially if she was a minor) there would be HELL TO PAY! You are a bully. You call people keyboard warrior too much. You need to keep your mouth shut and straighten up. You clearly have issues with women mike. I would suggest counseling. Also at the end of your video yoj say you do it for the kids??? Are you crazy? Any parent who watches that video would never let their kid near you at a show unless they were unstable. You talk like you're some veteran in the herp world? Give me a break. You wouldn't be squat if it weren't for Yusuke, bob and Philippe helping you. But you are too irrational egomaniacal and self absorbed. You are always a victim and you throw temper tantrums like a petulant child. You really showed this little girl didn't you? Man you really put this little girl in her place right mike??? And all the minions calling her names and cussing at her? A little girl who you claim to not know the age of even though you stated her age in the first minute of the video?? So folks watch the video read the frenzied comments. And know this little girl may not be able to help herself when she does the things she does to get such an over reaction from a so called grown man. And self proclaimed veteran of herpetoculture. Bullying a child on the Internet. This type of thing causes some kids to commit suicide.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1284207088260689&id=100000142307549


And Mike before you sick your minions on me and respond with your over reactive aggressive smart mouth, think about it. I am fully prepared to deal with anything you or your followers are known for doing when you go after people.

Hi! I don't know much about the law, but I mentioned this video and Mike's actions to my husband (he is a Marine who works for the D.O.D as a communications engineer) and he says that this behavior is cyber bullying of a child and should be reported here:

https://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/how-to-report/index.html

Have a great day!

~Beau

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Thank you and I could not agree more!!!

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Just an ironic screenshot of the comments under the video mike made of Cher.
Mike matson there's some constructive criticism on here if you want to read it... However you seem to have gone ghost on us here.