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Mike Shoemaker - Rebel Dragons BAD GUY

police report

After speaking with tere over the phone ( a very nice lady btw) I contacted the local PD, but because my Shop I have is where I was having the order sent to and is also where I purchased it from I had to call the sheriffs department, , this is very silly because there is about .5 mile strech in town that is consider county, this I so happen to be in :angry: after moneking with that I got through to a Deputy Lawson and case # is 071712168 this is the fraud case filed against him. I told her about Tere's case as well and they took that case # too. They said if there are enough filed ect.. that they will all be injunction with eachother to make it a strong case. I find the sheriffs department much quicker and more efficent the TPD thus far. I was also told to post a screen shot of my trnasaction to Shoemaker, how do I do a screen shot??

filed on december 12th 2007 Deputy Lawson and case # is 071712168 with Pima County sheriff department. I have had a couple friends who had to file a similar complaint and I was told for frausd and such that it is also a good idea to go to the Attorney generals office. In the meantime i am awaiting a response back from the sheriffs department Hopefully with the collaberation from tere's case they will actual make a move with this issue. If anyone else has filed a Police report and has a case # please pass it along as it is good for the department to have them to show how many reports have been filed to strength this case. This is beyond just a refund Shoemaker needs to be held accountable for all his actions, from wot it appears to me is he has taken far more then just $4300 from us he has obviously devasted and caused chaos and turmoil for many people on here. After reading all of this I am truly sorry for you guys he used and abused. and consider myself lucky that I was only ripped off for a ps3.

~Jacklyne Volpe~
Tucson, AZ
 
Pay Pal transaction reciept

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Jacklyne volpe
 
hmmm ok well that last post didnt work as planned. Ok here we go.

Paypal.jpg






I paid for shipping then realized he was local and asked if he could refund me shipping when I picked up the item, he said he would just giv eme cash for it. obviously that never happend
Jacklyne Volpe
 
oh, thanks tere just seen ur post after I already put img code in.


jacklyne volpe
 
Wilomn said:
I don't do much on ebay and almost everything I've purchased on that site also was payable by money order or credit card. I'm not happy with how they've handled this and will be looking into Googlepay for my snakes that I sell.
As am I. I am not at all impressed with how Paypal has handled this deal. I'm going to set up my Google Checkout account right now.
 
redsox-fan said:
Hey folks,

After checking Ebay for more information, I found the following aliases for our dear friend Mike. Not sure if he would use any of these on this site, but shop and buy wisely!

Marianna
_________________________________________________________


User ID Effective Date End Date

matchbox315 Oct-25-05 Present
furrylildevils Nov-06-04 Oct-25-05
lddragonranch Nov-30-03 Nov-06-04
furrylildevils Jun-14-02 Nov-30-03


Marianna-

I'm sorry for bringing this back up, but how did you find this on Ebay? I've been trying to look it up, but my computard is showing through.

Thanks!
 
Saladragon said:
Marianna-

I'm sorry for bringing this back up, but how did you find this on Ebay? I've been trying to look it up, but my computard is showing through.

Thanks!

I dont think you can pull all that up anymore can you? Didnt they suspend certian options on there, I had an emailing stating soemthign along those lines. I also recieved some crappy little mass mailer called paypal chain letter. Im so aggrevated with pay pal I never want to see anything from them again. Now they are running osmething along the lines of a pyyramid scheme. Ill link it up here when I have a chance.

Jacklyne Volpe
 
nueb said:
I dont think you can pull all that up anymore can you? Didnt they suspend certian options on there, I had an emailing stating soemthign along those lines. I also recieved some crappy little mass mailer called paypal chain letter. Im so aggrevated with pay pal I never want to see anything from them again. Now they are running osmething along the lines of a pyyramid scheme. Ill link it up here when I have a chance.

Jacklyne Volpe


I have no clue. I just tried doing an advanced search using furrylildevils, and it said something about that user id didn't exist...something like that. Was it within the last week that we can't do that anymore? I am so out of the loop.
 
Saladragon said:
Marianna-

I'm sorry for bringing this back up, but how did you find this on Ebay? I've been trying to look it up, but my computard is showing through.

Thanks!

Hi Tere,

Sad to say, but I don't even remember where I went to find that information on ebay. I think because his account is closed, all the others are gone now, too.

Here's my PS3 update....spoke with Paypal again last night at appox. 7pm and they informed me that Mike had until midnight last night to contact PayPal. If he didn't contact them, the money should be put back in my account within 24 hours. Of course, it's still not there!

Marianna
 
redsox-fan said:
Hi Tere,

Sad to say, but I don't even remember where I went to find that information on ebay. I think because his account is closed, all the others are gone now, too.

Here's my PS3 update....spoke with Paypal again last night at appox. 7pm and they informed me that Mike had until midnight last night to contact PayPal. If he didn't contact them, the money should be put back in my account within 24 hours. Of course, it's still not there!

Marianna


same here. they tell me they are waitign on response form him??


jacklyne volpe
 
Off the mike topic on to paypal

well to kinda go of the mike topic I recieved this crumby lil email, like I said pay pal seems to have gone to pyramid schemes. below is a copy of the email.


Everyone,



This is Rick, SO I saw this email come to me and so I first was skeptical, then I emailed everyone on the list to verify its true. And it is: this is one response... (this was not included in the first letter I got!) This is Rick! Im serious.

I asked: Did this really work? Also sorry if I sent this to you from my yahoo account also.



Response:

I SENT TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY FIRST. THEN I WENT TO THE PLACES LISTED ON THE MAIL, CANT REMEMBER NAMES BUT THEY WERE LIKE USENET BOARDS. BEEN ABOUT 6 WEEKS SINCE I DID IT AND AM AROUND 11000$ GIVE OR TAKE. GOT OUT OF MOMS HOUSE AND HAVING FUN. GOTTA POST A TON THO! TRY NOT TO POST WHERE THERE ARE ALOT OF THE SAME MAILS ARE, BUT HAVE FUN! I WAS POSTING CONSTANTLY AND DIDNT SEE MUCH FOR A COUPLE WEEKS THEN BAM!!!!!!!

XOXOXO

iRENA





So here it is!







Basically this project is all about People Helping People.
All of us have a common goal - supplementing our income without busting our tails. Well, this is an easy and honest solution.
Do you have a PayPal Account? (IF not, then set up one right away, it takes less than 5 minutes AND IT'S TOTALLY FREE!!).
You could make up to $50,000 in one month's time with more money coming in every month thereafter!
That's Right! $50,000 Dollars in your PayPal Account. IT WAS PROVEN ON OPRAH and this system is COMPLETELY LEGAL!!!
You may have heard of this program on 20/20 or even in the Wall Street Journal.
$10 is all you'll need. I'll try to keep this short and sweet....
To get started, just copy this whole page and paste it to edit it.
Simply follow the instructions below and in 2 to 4 weeks, you could have as much as $50,000 in your PayPal Account or even more..
Most people respond to this program because of the low investment ($10 Dollars) and the very high profit potential.
There is NO limit to the income you can generate from this (you can do it over and over again).
If you follow the instructions, you will reach thousands of people!
HONESTY, FAITH and INTEGRITY make this system work.

I think everyone has heard of PayPal. Anyone with an email address can join for FREE! If you're not already a PayPal user, the first thing you need to do is sign up.
Sign up for PayPal here = https://www.paypal.com
It's real easy to set up and it's FREE!!
Just make sure you have a BUSINESS or PREMIER account or you may be subjected to a monthly income limitation which may slow the program down.

So let's get started...
Firstly, send $5 to the first person (listed at No. 1) on the list, by using the PayPal 'Send Money' feature and be sure to include in the email 'Payment for Internet Marketing'.
THIS KEEPS THE PROGRAM LEGAL.

Then, send another $5 to the 5th person on the list (listed at No. 5), with an email that says 'Payment for Internet Marketing 5th'.
Once you have done this, REMOVE the 1st email address listed at the top (position No. 1) and place your address at the bottom (position No. 5).
This then moves the 2nd email address to 1st, 3rd to 2nd, 4th to 3rd and the 5th to 4th. You now become the 5th email address.
DO NOT TRY TO PLACE YOURSELF IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT WILL ONLY REACH THE PEOPLE YOU SEND IT TO AND THEN YOUR NAME WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST!!!
If you do this the way it has been designed, it will reach thousands by the time your name gets to the top.
REMEMBER TO SEND a $5 Dollar donation to the 1st email address and the message 'PAYMENT FOR INTERNET MARKETING'.

Send a similar email with the words 'PAYMENT FOR INTERNET MARKETING 5TH' with the other $5 Dollars to the 5th person.
This will help the 5th person to track the progress of the letter and to continue to send out more emails.

Here is the list:

1. [email protected]
2. [email protected]
3. [email protected]
4. [email protected]
5. [email protected]

(Make sure it's the same email address that you used to open your PayPal Account as this is the way you will receive your payment).
Now that you have paid the 1st and 5th person and sent them both an email (via the PayPal Account) and placed your email address in the 5th place, then all you need to do is post your letter. You can post on craigslist.com, backpage.com, message boards and newsgroups (there are thousands). You can even send an email to your own email list.
IT IS YOUR JOB AS THE 5TH PERSON ON THE LIST TO ENSURE THERE ARE AT LEAST 20 'PAYMENT FOR INTERNET MARKETING' REPLIES.
The fifth person is the Guardian of the System = YOU !!
If there is not at least 20 replies then the 5th person will keep sending/posting the letter until there is.
MAKE SURE YOU SEND $5 DOLLARS TO THE FIRST PERSON TO THANK THEM FOR WHEN THEY WERE THE
GUARDIAN OF THE LETTER AND THE $5 DOLLARS TO THE 5TH PERSON, SO MORE EMAILS CONTINUE TO GO OUT!!!

Now the fun happens. We reap what we sow. Other people will see your posting and do the exact same thing, bringing you lots and lots of dollars!!
Seriously, it's common sense - you do it and 25 or more people see and do the exact same thing and everyone wins !!!

You will receive thanks AND THE SAME BLESSING. When your name reaches the 1st slot, 8,000 to 15,000 people will send you $25 DOLLARS!
Keep in mind that the most you spend is $10 DOLLARS! = (WHAT GOES AROUND, COME AROUND!).

TESTIMONIALS:
Mary Gathers, Columbus , SC :
I only have one thing to say to you: OH MY GOD! I sent out 142 copies total before 20 replied, like the instructions said. Then I went on a short vacation. When I got back, my account had over $32,000 dollars in it already and the money was still coming! I'm still floating in air (especially with my new car).
I thought the Guardian system sounded cheesy, but now I realize it is the formula that makes this letter really work! THANKS!

Richard Barrie, Boulder, CO:
I was shocked when I saw how much money came flooding into my PayPal account. Within 3 weeks my account balance has ballooned to $22,449. At first I thought there had been some sort of error with my account!

HERE ARE THE STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS AGAIN:
Step 1. Set up your PayPal account, if you don't already have one and send the top name (1st person)
$5.00 Dollars.
DON'T FORGET to include 'PAYMENT FOR INTERNET MARKETING'. This is IMPORTANT as it keeps the program legal.
Step 2. Send the other $5.00 Dollars and a note stating 'PAYMENT FOR INTERNET MARKETING 5TH' to the 5th name on the list.
Step 3. Remove the top name and move the other 4 names up one place each. Place your name in the bottom slot and you will receive a minimum of $100.00 for your efforts.
Step 4. Keep sending/posting the letter until you receive 20 'PAYMENT FOR INTERNET MARKETING 5TH' replies in your mailbox.
That's it, It's that simple!

Please give it an honest effort, you will not be disappointed and will be very glad that you did when it starts to work. Remember, all you are going to be out of pocket is about the cost of a couple of coffees and will have the opportunity of banking thousands of dollars into your PayPal account! Take the smallest risk of your Life!!!

The Guardian system is based on HONEST people helping each other out.
This Program is completely legal if you follow the step by step instructions.
It has the same concept of building a downline except more profitable and affordable.

Wishing you the very best of luck and may you prosper in fortune.
Make BIG money in an HONEST way!
To Success!




wot a joke!!


Jacklyne Volpe
 
That is not Paypal's doings. That is someone trying to use Paypal for the old pyramid scheme.
 
Perhaps my retardedness is shining today, but I don't get the above post at all. :shrug01:

Is that a chain letter designed for PayPal? Who is Rick, WHO? What does it have to do with Mike Shoemaker? We try hard to keep things on topic in the BOI. If you've looked around, posts get way out of hand with the gibberish, and result in 2000+ posts.
 
IT WAS SOME EMAIL SENT TO ME STATING PAY PAL LETTER. oops sorry for capts. I thought it had to do with paypal. i think im going to stop posting on here there are alot of disgruntal people on here, with good reason but I cant really handle it all. sorry to much for me and with my perosnal life caring for a disabled parent as well as being scammed out of christmas money for ym kid. i just want to this to be over. thx anyhow weveryone

jacklyne volpe
 
nueb said:
i think im going to stop posting on here there are alot of disgruntal people on here, with good reason but I cant really handle it all.

It has little to do with people being disgruntled and more to do with your unwillingness to read and follow the few rules in place in regards to posting on the BOI.
:rolleyes:
 
I ain't disgruntled. I'd be a bit more direct if I was. Not saying you should quit posting either, just suggesting it be kept more on topic. I understand you were scammed by Mike. I even pitched in to help you and the others out.

Perhaps in return, you'll adhere to the rules? (another suggestion)
 
Well, it looks like PayPal made their decision in my favor, except, it looks like there are NO funds left in Mike's account to refund our money. Nowhere in PayPal's email to me does it say that they will find him and prosecute him. This is just sick!! I've seen numerous posts to switch from PayPal to Google. DO IT!

Marianna

Resolution of Buyer Complaint Case # PP-377-078-395
From: [email protected]

Sent:Thu 12/13/07 8:34 PM


Dear M Bater, After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the BuyerComplaint described below. We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any fundsfrom the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recoveryof funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed. Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds inquestion if they become available in the seller's account in the future andwill take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may includeissuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the account.Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors to determine when to takeaction, including member complaints. Due to privacy laws, we cannot discussthe details of any action taken. We hope you understand our policy and thatit assures you that you are safe using PayPal.
-----------------------------------Transaction Details----------------------------------- Transaction Date: Nov 25, 2007
Transaction Amount: -$387.68 USD
Your Transaction ID: 59G83308RU251625M
Seller's Transaction ID: 58203847XT226210A
Case Number: PP-377-078-395
Seller's Name: sherry shoemaker
Seller's Email: [email protected] -----------------------------------What to Do Next-----------------------------------
This case is now closed. No further action is required by you at this time. -----------------------------------Other Details----------------------------------- To make sure future transactions proceed smoothly, we suggest you visit thePayPal site and click the Security Center link located at the bottom of anypage. There you will find tips on how to avoid fraudulent sellers in the"Fraud Prevention Tips for Buyers" section. Sincerely,PayPalProtection Services Department Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and youwill not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal accountand click the Help link located in the top right corner of any page. Ifyour inquiry is regarding a claim, log in to your PayPal account and go tothe Resolution Center.
BC:pP-377-078-395:R2:USD387.68:12022007:59G83308RU251625M ---------------------------------------------------------------- PayPal Email ID PP805
 
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