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Mike Shoemaker - Rebel Dragons BAD GUY

And just as a reminder to some folks who may have forgotten they voted, there is the list of those who still shows as having voted him as a "good guy"...

Art Klass, Bill_Leverton, Chameleon Company, clarinet45, Corns4evr, Cory_Best, Dachiu, dragonflyreptiles, Dragons Del Sol, Ginger Ambrose, High End Herps Inc, INSANE CANES LLC, jmartin104, Living Art Reptiles, Manhattan Herps, Matt Haines, MGReptiles, progeckos, South Dixie Dragons, TheHypoGecko
 
redsox-fan said:
Good news!

One more victim has received a refund from PayPal!


Dear redsox-fan,

Hi Marianna,

Thanks for sending that link ... I hope that ebay can prevent him from ever buying or selling again although that is probably pretty tough if he really wants to use it. My money was refunded the same day it was withdrawn from my paypal account so I would have no crime to report to the police. I hope everyone else was also refunded.

Happy Holidays!
Beth

Marianna-

Could you be kind enough to provide me with Beth's Ebay user name?

Thank you!
 
Cat_72 said:
And just as a reminder to some folks who may have forgotten they voted, there is the list of those who still shows as having voted him as a "good guy"...

Art Klass, Bill_Leverton, Chameleon Company, clarinet45, Corns4evr, Cory_Best, Dachiu, dragonflyreptiles, Dragons Del Sol, Ginger Ambrose, High End Herps Inc, INSANE CANES LLC, jmartin104, Living Art Reptiles, Manhattan Herps, Matt Haines, MGReptiles, progeckos,, TheHypoGecko
Hmmm as far as I know, those who can actually remove their votes have a coin in order to do so, and then there are those who are just as scummy as mike. clarinet45, High End Herps Inc, Manhattan Herps, and MGReptiles are banned and or are scum bags.

Art Klass, Chameleon Company, Cory_Best, dragonflyreptiles, Ginger Ambrose, Matt Haines, and South Dixie Dragons no longer have coins. And the rest I have no idea?

And to answer your question on Cory, I spoke with him last night to discuss the "stalker box" as my other half so lovingly calls it. Cory and I agreed to send the box to a member on this forum who will return it to him.

Oh most of you know that Bryon and I are not in the place to donate anything monetary, however, those of you that do me, know my daughter Mana. She is a model and now has a poster and calendar for 2008. She is signing/autographing her poster, and also getting the other models to sign the calendar and I will be auctioning them off to the highest bidder with all proceeds going to this ebay fund. I will be posting the link to her auction shortly.
 
I have tried calling Mike several times today before posting this, he will not answer his phone. It Is Unfortunate.

There will be another person posting after me to help shed light on what I am about to share, so please refrain from commenting and give this person time to read and add what they have to write.

I will start this on the guise that this is all speculative and it is all possible but not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. One's character is called into question more so and should be taken as such. I have spent countless hours collaborating with others on this information and I strongly believe it should not be taken lightly. I have put in a whole hearted friendship and and trust, which was taken and crushed. Lies were told countless times, peoples' characters were destroyed, and I am pleased to say I have not been ripped off. I am not happy with Mike, in fact, to say I am furious is an understatement. Name's used have already been mentioned by others, I will try to keep this in chronological order, at times I have dates yet most of the events I do not. I am keeping a lot of incidents out as I am not wanting to post hem all, just the ones that pertain to Mike's character. My story begins a few months back when Cory brought home a girl friend.

This new friend turned out to be a girl that Mike did not care for a single bit. He was/is angry that Cory brought her home, which is completely understandable as Mike's relationship as he saw it was over. Calls started coming in which made me uneasy about the whole situation. Mike had taken some of her flaws and shortcomings and expounded them in the worst ways, to say he hated her does not come close to how he expressed himself. To help one's imagination of this women, Ma Barker would have nothing on Cory's new friend. Again, his relationship as he saw it was now gone because of her. He called me and I called him on a regular basis, sometime daily, he was a friend in need and I was a listening ear, as was others. I have spoken with Cory about his new friend, he has confirmed and dispelled much of the information that I was given. I have made up my mind about her, simply put, I would not trust her, I will keep her out of this as much as possible.

Mike worked from home in telecommunications and lost his job, according to Mike it was because him and the this new girlfriend of Cory's got into a fight during a conference call Mike was on and they fired him. According to Mike, company rules are absolutely no background noise. Mike was now out of a job. In the mean time Mike's brother Danny was moving out to Stay with Mike and Cory, wanting to turn his life around. Over the years Mike had told me on several occasions that his siblings were losers that would constantly steal money from their mother. Taking her ATM card without her permission and putting her into debt. Their family was in turmoil and they lost their home. With the kids stealing mom was now having to live with friends.Mike was worried about his siblings stealing from their mother and he wished he could stop them, she did not deserve this. His mother would call them saying she did not have money in her account because she thinks her kids were stealing from her.

Just recently I found out Mike has Power of Attorney over his mother, because of her health he was able to obtain this in case she was unable to pay her bills, he could make sure she would be fine. If she passed away, he would obtain everything and it would not be lost in the mess of losing a loved one. My concern is why he never put a stop to this, Mike gets all of his mother's mail (confirmed). He has power of his mother's signature. Mike has control over his mother's social security income. He could have easily canceled the ATM card, changed bank accounts, and even set his mother up to use checks and not have a card to help keep the kids from stealing. Also he could have called and let the family know in Pennsylvania that these kids need to be controlled immediately.

Mike has not had a job for about 4 months, Danny has yet to find a job (now living in Florida) yet he was able to pay his bills which included half the rent money. How was this possible? He was able to move money around. When my concerns about Mike started creeping in, I started to put two and two together. About two weeks ago I asked Mike if he has gotten a job, he replied he had not, 4 days later on November 29 while speaking with Mike he told me he was making burritos at a little Mexican diner, I asked how long he has worked there and he replied "3 weeks". When I spoke with him this past week, Mike told me how work was going at the "Bread & Butter Cafe" and is looking for a second job. He conversed with me as though I knew he has been working at the Bread & Butter Cafe for some time now. I have called at odd times during the day (as my work schedule is odd) and he has always been home to answer my calls. So my question is; If Mike is paying bills and not working, where is the money coming from? Is Mike stealing from his mother? Was it Mike who would steal from his mother and used his siblings as his scapegoat?

Mike has supposedly attempted suicide more than once, it would seem that he uses the threats of suicide for extreme dramatic attention. I was told by Cory that upon returning home, Mike was lying on the bed and had bandages on his wrist and saying he tried to kill himself. Cory pressed Mike to see his wrists wanting to see how bad the cuts were if they needed to see a doctor or not. After some discussion, Cory was able to see Mike's wrists, yet the cut was a bit more work to find. As told to me by Cory, "I have seen cuts by finger nails that were worse".

Within a short time after losing his job, Mike was at his lowest and as depressed as can be. I received a call at 3 am, Mike was just released from the hospital and he told me why he was there while he waited for his cab to pick him up. Earlier in the evening Cory came home and found an almost empty bottle of Captain Morgan and an anti-congestant package empty in the bathroom which was recently full, fearing that Mike had taken all the anti-congestants he called 911 and told them that Mike may have possibly tried to commit suicide. Mike was feeling fine, he told me he had only taken two pills and maybe a total of two drinks of the captain Morgan. Police arrived and shortly later the paramedic arrived, checking Mike's vitals, his blood pressure was up and he was sweating a lot. According to Mike it was close to 90 degrees outside at night causing him to sweat and having all this attention caused his heart rate to increase. Mike did not want to go to the hospital, but was told to go with the paramedics peacefully or in handcuffs, so he went peacefully. Upon arriving at the hospital Mike was forced by 18 men to the ground and stripped of his clothing, strapped to the bed and tests started. They did not pump his stomach, but they did take blood. They found no large quantities on anti-congestant or alcohol to consider him a suicide attempt, so they then released him that night.

After speaking with Cory, it was believed by Cory that Mike may have truly tried to commit suicide, The anti-congestant box was full and the Captain Morgan's was full. Mike hinted to Cory to notice the items that were left lying out in sight, so Cory did what he thought was right. Though Cory does question if Mike set him up to call emergency.

During the summer of this year I received a call from Mike, I asked him what was new and he said "Oh, let me tell you about my weekend". Cory and Mike were supposed to go out together but Cory ended up canceling the date to be his his new friend. That night Mike received a phone call (I do not remember the exact day, I would guessed on Friday or Saturday) from his mother's nursing home in Pennsylvania around 10 pm letting him know his mother had passed away, she has serious health issues and was not expected to live long (confirmed). Mike had called Cory (who was with his new friend) and told him what happened and asked him to come home, which Cory did. Upon returning home Mike and his younger brother Danny was in tears. Mike called his uncle's in Florida and in Pennsylvania, the uncle in Pennsylvania. Cory returned home and stuck around for about 30 minutes, then received a call from his new friend and decided to spend the rest of the night with her instead of the grieving brothers. Danny, was upset and even ran out crying and begging Cory to stick around, but Cory decided to leave instead. During that night Mike's uncle in Florida purchased tickets to Pennsylvania and Mike's uncle in Pennsylvania went to the nursing home to take care of any paperwork, retrieve the body, and any belongings that they could. Only to find Mike's mother still alive with no idea what was going on. The next morning Cory looked through the phone's caller ID to try and retrieve the number of the nursing home, but because of the amount of calls made in and out, Cory was unable to do so and that they can only retrieve the last number called from the provider with a court order.

Mike strongly believed Cory's girl made the call with Cory there laughing or had someone call for her, he was not sure, but Cory swore they did not do it and would confront the girl and try to pull it out of her if she was the mastermind of this prank. If she did, Cory would break all ties with her and report her. Cory was either never able to do so or really did not care about Mike and would rather be with this girl.

Now to tell a few problems with this story. Cory was out with his new girl and Mike did call him, yet it was around 7:30 pm not 10 pm as I was told. Cory was at the mall with this girl and did return home. He did search through the phone to find the number that was used to call Mike, which Mike confirmed was the number that called. Mike told Cory he was on the phone with me when the call came in and did not look at the number, only answered it and never clicked back over to me. The problem Cory found that made him suspicious of all of this is that there was no other number from the East Coast that came in or went out to the East Coast. He did not know what to believe and decided to leave even though the brothers were crying, without sharing this information with Mike. Danny was clearly hurt and crying over the loss of his mother, Mike on the other hand did not seem so disturbed that his mother had passed away. Cory decided to leave and be with his new girl, he is not the emotional type and also is not as attached to Mike's mother and not surprised she died, she has been on her death bed for a long time and he was ready for her to go. This makes me wonder if Mike lied about the call and told his brother Danny that their mother passed away and then called Cory to ruin his evening with his girl. Danny never witnessed Mike receiving the call from the nursing home, or prank caller. Did Mike ever call his uncles? Did his uncles ever call Mike? According to Cory, on the phone log, there was no numbers from the East Coast.

In August Mike asked me to help him out and take his animals because he was strapped for cash and did not want the responsibility anymore. Mike said he would help cover the cost to drive out there. Cory was in agreement and asked that only two snakes remain which were his favorites out of, the tarantulas, and bearded dragons. With my wife staying at home, a friend I headed out to Arizona, sight seeing in Tombstone and had a good weekend. When it was time to go, we packed up the animals, Cory went and sat on the porch talking on the phone. With Cory holding animals, myself, my friend, and Mike we carried all the animals out to the car and parted ways. I was never told what animals were staying, Cory did not supervise and trusted Mike. As it turns out, the two snakes that were to be left behind Mike made sure were packed up also. Mike did not have the money to cover costs and we agreed I can sell the baby bearded dragons as payment. There was a total of 6 babies. I have sold a couple to help compensate for the price of the trip. I currently have all the others animals and I am in arrangements with Cory to get them back out to Arizona and into his hands after the holidays.

The event that made me question Mike and caused me to put all this together.

In November Mike called me and a few others asking to help him out. Mike had sent a mass e-mail and asked if I had read it, which is bellow. Mike wanted to have an intervention for Cory, as he strongly believes Cory was doing drugs now because of his hew girlfriend. Lost 30 pounds, his skin is pale and patchy and looks as thought he was going to die soon. Cory had gone from working 40 hours a week down to just a few and Cory was going to loose his job. The intervention was being put together by Cory's boss and his wife, with Danny, Tere and her husband, with Mike to be there. They asked that all of Cory's friends to write letters to Cory to be read at the intervention. Here is the e-mail I got about this from Mike.

Cory intervention 911

Inbox X


Michael Shoemaker
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My dear friends,
This is going to be the 2nd hardest letter i am ever going to write. The 1st will be the one that I mention later in this letter.
At the suggestion of Cory's boss, we are going to arrange an intervention with Cory this week concerning the Jodi situation. It has reached a point that something needs to be said by Cory's friends and loved ones because many of us feel he is in grave danger. All of you know the situation to various degrees and you have seen the negative impact that Jodi has had on him and how it has effected all of those around him.
I ask that each of you take some time out of your to express your feelings in a letter that will be read at his intervention. That or I can call you personally at a set time during his intervention and you can speak personally to him over speaker phone. Either way, it is best to have a letter prepared that you can read from.

Vicky Dachiu,

You have been well informed of his actions over the last 4 months and have really taken up the slack with his web design contracts and helping me out in many ways.

Mike Shelton,

You have seen Cory in person before and after he met her. You noticed the change and you too are well informed. To take in all of our animals is greatly appreciated and your a life saver in more ways than one.

Larry Woodward,

You were working with Cory and you too know what happen in your situation and it has had a big impact on your website. Your also up to date on all of the other drama.

Brian and Laura,

You guys noticed the difference as you too dealt with him before and after meeting her.

If all of you could compose a letter describing the negative changes you personally witnessed with Cory, it may go a long way to preventing something bad to happen. All of you at one time or another have said that you were scared that something would happen. Perhaps the intervention will open Cory's eyes to all of the concerns and fears everyone has but he refuses to notice himself.
If you have any questions please call me asap. Please make the letters personal and heartfelt. Cory needs to know how much his friends care and how concerned they are for his safety. No topic or situation is off limits, write about anything you would like.
If you could have the letter to me by Wednesday I would be so greatful. then I get to compose the my letter........... The intervention is planned for Thursday afternoon at his work,

I love all of you,

Mike

With time and great though, I wrote out a heartfelt letter to Cory, believing Mike that Cory was in grave danger of losing his life because of drugs and this girlfriend of his. Laura also wrote a letter and so did Mike's mother (unconfirmed).

The day before the intervention, Tere, her husband, Cory's boss, along with a police escort helped Cory move out of the apartment. Cory took the bed, TV, dishes, computer, and personal belongings. Mike was cleaned out, they did not have much to begin with, so with the large items gone, Mike had nothing. Mike called me after they all left, around 6:30pm, crying and upset. We talked for about 30 minutes. At 8:30 pm I got a call from Mike on his cell phone, I answered but no one answered on the other line and it quickly hung up on me. This is when things went from bad to worse.

At 1 am I received a text message from Mike's cell phone
Is anyone getting my texts? On one can hear me when i try to talk.
My reply
Received here.
At 1:40 am I received from Mike's cell phone
I know you know my brother mike. Is tere's number XXX-XXXX ? I need her to call me danny mike committed suicide at 8 15 tonight. Or you can call me please
At receiving the text I instantly called Mike's cell but was not able to get through as Mike's cell is pre-paid and there was no more money on the phone. So I called Mike's house number hoping to get a hold of someone. No one answered. I tried a few more times, I came on to fauna around 2:20 am and PM-ed a few people including Dennis Hultman, Lucille, and KelliH looking to get Tere's number, I did not want to call her, but knowing she was close to Mike I decided to try and get a number from someone here hoping that the number I received in the text is the right one before calling.
Need a Number
Hey Dennis,

I am trying to find Tere Salazar's phone number. Do you have it handy?

Thanks,
__________________
Michael Shelton
It takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen.
-Homer Simpson
My wife started to have a panic attack because she was worried that mike did kill himslef. At 2:30 am PST I called Tere (3:30 am her time) and spoke with her husband, he said Mike was playing one of his "pranks again" and was alive. I hung up in disbelief. Later that morning after clocking out at work at 9 am PST, I called Tere back and apologized profusely to her for the early call, and asked her what had happened. During my conversation with Tere, Mike called Tere and she told him she was on the other line. Mike then called me, when I picked up Mike said "Hi it's me, I'm alive, my cell phone mysteriously disappeared." At this point I cut Mike off letting him know I was at work and would call him back later. I then switched over to Tere and asked her to hang up with me and call Mike, not letting him know we were talking with each other.

Tere called me back when she was done with Mike, we spoke for a couple of hours putting our stories together. According to Mike, his cell phone was stolen during the move and someone sent out the text messages using his phone. This did not include just me, but also another friend of Mike that was text messaged and in contact with Tere believing Mike had committed suicide.

I have spoken to Mike a couple of times about this incident, according to him he was home and Danny stopped in, grabbed a soda and was with Mike when the texts went out. Mike has told me numerous times since this incident that he believes Cory's girlfriend was the one who sent these texts out. Mike has reiterated to me over and over that he believes Cory's girlfriend was behind the texts and the call from the nursing home. Speaking with Cory, he was with his girlfriend when the first set of texts went out to the other person and Cory had his own involvement trying to find out if Mike was okay or not, after departing ways with his girlfriend for the night.

I suspect Mike was the one who sent these texts messages out, according to him the cell phone was stolen and everyone in his phonebook was sent a text message. Yet I only know of two people total that received text messages, I, being one of them. If his cell phone was gone, how would he know I received a text message? How would he know that I was worried about him when he called me while I was on the phone with Tere at 10am her time. One would think I would have called numerous times throughout the morning if I feared Mike was dead and I wanted to contact his brother. Mike stated his cell phone had even called his home phone, how he knew that is beyond me as he did not have caller ID on his home phone.

The next day, I called Mike's cell phone a couple of times, it would ring and go to his message system. Mike told me he contacted his provider and told them his phone was stolen and they cannot turn it off, only wait until the phone runs out of minutes. His phone ran out of minutes after the last text message I received because of the message I got from the provider, otherwise it would rang and gone to his message system that night. Of course if it was stolen someone could have put minutes on the phone, but most thieves would only use the phone until the minutes were up and then go steal another phone, not add minutes, but then again there is always an exception.

Last night I received a text message from Cory stating
What are the odds? I just got a call from mike on his cell phone...
I have yet to talk to Mike and learn about the cell phone, I have heard he received a new one with the same number a couple weeks back. I would have suspected Mike to ell me about his new phone if he really did get a new one.

I want to know the truth, if Mike was behind all of this.

I was called by Tere after she put together the info about Ebay. Yesterday when this thread started, Mike called me letting me know this thread was here, he mentioned the day before that he "F**K Up" really bad. Yesterday he admitted to me that he sold items on Ebay that he did not have in possession to sell. According to Mike, he has been in contact before Tere was and has been working with them and his father to pay these people back. I am not sure Mike and his father are on speaking terms, I have heard how much they do not get along.

After the numerous police incidents, the police reports that have been read to me, the constant filing and dismissals of restraining orders, I am tired of all of this. I have been worn thin and will be pleased to no longer have their animals in my possessions and be done with this suicide circus.

Please refrain from posting as there is someone who will be posting after me and share what they have to add.
 
Okay. I think probably the easiest way to do this is just post the notes I took during this whole fiasco. There is probably a LOT of information there that has no relevance, but these are notes I took during the actual conversations, themselves, and are certainly more accurate than my memory after all this.

There are two things not from my notes, however, which pertain to previous "suicide issues", that directly relate to what Michael has posted. The first is an email sent from Mike's mother to Cory, forwarded from Cory to me.



----- Original Message -----
From: sherry shoemaker
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 7:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Cory?

I hope I have the right email address for you. I wanted to ask you to call
Michael. He tried to kill himself early this morning. I have moved, but
Michael is in the old house tonight keeping an eye on things for me until
the first of the month and you could call him at XXX XXX XXXX. I do not have
my new phone hooked up yet anyway. Danny is staying there watching him and
will probably answer the phone. He was released earlier tonight after
getting his stomach pumped all day and I think he just needs a friend to
talk to. He will be checking into the hospital for a long term stay on the
first. Until then I hope you and Michael could maybe talk about things and
you can possibly persuade him to keep his chin up. He told me everything
that happened in Arizona and all the things that happened after he left.
While I don't understand why things happened the way they did, I hope things
can be forgiven and friendships can be repaired. I almost lost my son this
morning, Cory. By making a phone call you could make him smile and feel a
bit better about things. You were his best friend for 6 years. If anyone
could make him happier at this critical point it will be you.I don't have
the peoples email address you are living with but perhaps you can tell them
what's going on I do not want this to be spoken about with any of my
brothers. You know them well enough to know how the would react. And Roger
is certainly the last person that needs to be bothering Michael. Please call
him Cory. He needs your friendship.

Sherry



It is still unknown who actually wrote that email.

The second is from Mike to Cory, forwarded by Cory to me shortly thereafter.


----- Original Message -----
From: Rebel Dragons
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: The scoop

Just so you know I did NOT intentionally try to kill myself. I was having a
major issue with my meds and at this point I am not taking anything they are
trying to give me. I don't trust doctors at all anymore. They had me on an
antidepressent and a sleeping pill for a couple weeks.Then they changed the
antidepressent and it did not mix well with the ambian. I got really sick
and was not having a good reaction to the mix. Mom thought I overdosed
myself and had my stomach pumped. Psych consult came down and it took
forever and a day to explain to them I did not try to commit suicide. They
finallly let me go home if I promised to go back and talk some more about
what happen........ Anyway, on to bigger and better things.

Mom told me she wrote you but she won't tell me what she wrote. Care to
share???

What I need now is to be able to talk to you. I don't care anything about
sandals, dvd's or any other shit at this point. I just need to talk to you.
I despeately need a friend to talk to at this point and YOU are the only one
I trust. I can call you or you can all me. Just please get back to me with a
time you would like me to call. Or a time yoyu would like to call me. I have
a new number also that I would need to give you.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Mike




Now, for the notes. Again, please disregard all the irrelevant stuff.

11/13/07
6:25 P.M. Mike called me. Mike stated he had seen Jodi talking to a neighbor. After the neighbor's conversation with Jodi, Mike stated the neighbor called Mike to ask who is Jodi, and why was she talking to the neighbor about Mike. He called 911, and stated he did not know that Jodi had already been served. Mike also stated that a police officer came to his home and told him Cory and Jodi got served. The police officer also told Mike that Cory and Jodi had paperwork for him. Mike said it was obviously a "race to the courthouse" and that Cory and Jodi went to the courthouse to "f**k him".

7:30 P.M. Conversation RE: restraining order. Mike said he "had to talk to Cory" and that the restraining order would not be violated if Cory called him or came over. Mike stated he was not going to call the police on Cory if he called or came over and swore this "on his mother's grave". Mike then proceeded to call Cory more than 12 times between 7:30 and 10:00 p.m. He left 9 voice mails for Cory to call him.



11/14/07
9:23 A.M. Mike called me. Mike claims he had restraining order against Cory dismissed and that he just found out how to subpoena witnesses, but that he's sure his friends will show up without having to be subpoenaed. He also started saying something regarding Jodi's mom being thrown out of the courtroom during the last restraining order hearing. I cut him off there because I was working on a large project for my job, and told him I didn't have time to deal with that.

11:00 A.M. I called Mike RE: subpoena comment. He said he was not going to have us subpoenaed, but he was, instead, referring to his neighbors. Mike stated that Lisa (from the check cashing place) had told him that Cory approached her regarding offering Mike a place to stay. Mike stated that he felt this was underhanded, sneaky and sabotage. Mike stated that by December 1st, he is moving to xxxxxxx and had already told the current leasing office. He also stated that a person from his mother's church was sending money for Danny to get a plane ticket. He further stated that Lisa was taking him to dinner.



11/15/07 Cory told me that Kim had told him the previous day that the locks were changed due to "somebody" breaking the key off inside the lock.

11:00 A.M. Mike called me, stating that he is planning an "intervention" because Cory is "on drugs". This idea came about after he placed a call to Luis, Cory's boss. Mike stated that Luis is "fixing to fire Cory". When asked why he thinks Cory is using drugs, he stated that the neighbors have witnessed Cory doing drugs in the complex and that Mike has found drug paraphernalia in Cory's belongings. Mike read off two letters (one from Michael Shelton, one from Brian and Laura) of the several he solicited from his own friends to Cory for the intervention. He has solicited letters from his mother, xxxxxxxx, Michael Shelton, Brian and Laura, Larry, Danny. He stated that the letter from his mother was being faxed to him by the nurses at the nursing home. Intervention is being planned at Cory's place of employment one afternoon next week, when Jodi is not around.

1:40 P.M. Mike called me. He stated he was in the process of writing his intervention letter, and that it sounded very angry. He read me what he had already written. Mike stated that he wants Cory and Jodi to "blow up", and that he has visions of Jodi "driving down the road and her car bursting into flames". He further stated that the intervention was going to be tomorrow night, Friday, at his house, and that he was going to have Luis bring Cory to Mike's house.

4:30 to 7:30 P.M. Waited at Dunkin Donuts for police officer to arrive with Cory and Jodi, Luis, John and the kids. Once police officer arrived, followed everyone to the apartment and helped Cory remove his belongings. The first thing Mike said when we walked in was "I guess the intervention is off". Mike kept stating that it wasn't fair and that Cory was "taking everything". Mike also kept stating that he was going to take Cory to court over the belongings that Cory was taking and the police officer told him "don't talk about it, just do it". Jodi stayed in our truck with our children and sat in the front passenger seat. Mike's brother, Danny sat in the driver's seat, helped open the back of our truck, and saw both trucks fully loaded. Mike stated at one point that he couldn’t find his cell phone. I personally showed him where it was on the air mattress in the bedroom. He picked it up. Cory stated that he asked Mike where it was later, and Mike pulled it out of his pocket, then put it back in his pocket. When we left, Mike was on the balcony, holding a phone to his ear. Cory had taken the cordless house phone.

9:30 P.M. Arrived home and retrieved answering machine messages. There were three phone calls from Mike, the first stating Cory and Luis were sitting with a police officer at Dunkin Donuts. The other two calls, he did not leave messages. The first of the two unmessaged calls was at 8:30 p.m. from Mike's home phone number. The second was at 9:16 p.m. from Mike's cell phone number.

10:00 P.M. Lisa called and stated that Danny was texting her from Mike's cell phone, and had given her my number and asked her to call me. She stated that Danny was texting her messages that Mike "committed suicide at 8:15 tonight", and that he was walking to the hospital. Lisa also stated that Danny was saying something was wrong with the cell phone, and he could only text message. Lisa stated she had been texting with Danny for over an hour, and his story had not changed. Lisa and I called all the emergency rooms in Tucson, and I called 911 to see if anybody had Mike or Michael Shoemaker, or any John Doe. Nobody had him. Then "Danny" texted her saying things like "Where's my brother? I need help", and "everything's gone", even though Danny had been sitting in one of the fully loaded trucks. I asked Lisa to ask Danny where he was, that I could come pick him up and take him to the hospital. He replied that he was walking home and was almost there. Shortly thereafter, he said the phone was out of money and he couldn't text anymore.

10:46 P.M. Mike called me stating that he was fine, that Tommy's girlfriend took him to Target to get an air mattress and that he had just arrived home, and found a message on voice mail from Lisa. He called her back and she filled him in on what was going on. Mike stated to me that he stated that he couldn't have committed suicide if he was checking out at Target at 8-something, and read off of his receipt. He also stated that he knew Cory and Jodi had stolen his cell phone, and that they were the ones doing the texting with Lisa, and that the message had gone to everyone in his phone book on his phone. Mike further stated he hoped Cory and Jodi "died", amongst many other things that I did not write down. Mike then proceeded to read the letter from his mother for the intervention. He read one sentence that sounded very familiar to me as the one he read me earlier, then stated that wait, that was his letter. He then found his mother's letter, and upon reading it, the first sentence was the same as his. Mike then continued to discuss how Cory and Jodi had stolen his phone, and that he would find out where Cory was staying.



11/16/07
3:44 A.M. Michael Shelton from California called, stating that he had received a text message around 1:00 a.m. that said Mike had committed suicide. I have never spoken to Michael Shelton, and my phone number is unlisted. John spoke to him. I heard John saying it was "all a bunch of bullcrap", and explaining to Michael Shelton what had happened last night.

6:59 A.M. I called Mike's house number to find out why Michael Shelton had my phone number. There was no answer. I left voice mail that I needed to talk to him, and to call me back.

8:25 A.M. Mike called me back. I asked Mike why Michael Shelton had my phone number, and Mike replied that the text messages had gone to everyone in his address book, and that one of the messages sent out contained my phone number, and asked to contact me. He was at Lisa's last night and saw the text messages on her cell phone from his cell phone. Mike stated that Lisa told him she was going to call her cell phone company and get the test messages printed out. He also stated that he had just gotten back from Lisa's house this morning. Mike stated that he was going to call T Mobile to report his phone stolen, and that he was going to ask if his cell phone had some sort of tracking device. Mike said if it did, he was going to the police to have them track his phone, and the person who had it would be interrogated. Mike then stated that he couldn't have sent the text messages, to just "ask xxxxxx", xxxxxxx's girlfriend, that he was doing nothing but walking around Target. Mike also stated he's going to a family lawyer who accepts payment plans to get his "life back", and that he worked too hard to just let go of everything. Mike stated that his mom has a hearing now for Social Security fraud, due to the anonymous call they received to report his mother. Mike also stated that he was going to the prosecutor's office to tell them that he suspects Cory stole his phone, and gave it to Jodi, who then sent the text messages. Mike then stated that he had found someone to stay with, as long as he contributed to groceries, and that it was not Lisa. Mike stated that he was ready to "just disappear", and that he doesn’t think Jodi realizes the pain and suffering she causes with her "sick little stunts". I reiterated to Mike that this was not what I signed up for, that it was absolutely insane, and that I was done. I do not want any more involvement. I do not want police at my house, nor do I want to be served in front of my children again. He again stated that he would not have us served.

9:30 A.M. Received a call from Lisa, asking me to be completely honest as to my dealings with Mike. I did just that. I also told Lisa that I knew for a fact neither Cory, nor Jodi had stolen Mike's phone, nor did either of them send the text messages last night, but I did not tell her how I knew that. I explained to Lisa that the suicide thing was a pattern, that it happened any time Mike and Cory had a problem. She stated that Jodi called her boss and lodged a complaint against her. I told her that I believe I may have given Jodi the information regarding that complaint, but it was not done maliciously, but rather to let Jodi know that she might want to cash checks someplace not familiar to Mike if she didn't want Mike knowing her personal information. Lisa said that I had confirmed her suspicions, and that she wanted no part of all of this. She confirmed Mike had stayed with her last night, but that she took him home with all his belongings this morning, and that he would NOT be staying with her, for any length of time.

6:19 P.M. Mike called me. He informed me that he had just gotten home from work. He stated that earlier in the day, he had reported his cell phone stolen to T Mobile, and that the phone would just have to run out of money, that they wouldn’t shut it off, but that at least he wouldn't be held responsible for any threatening phone calls from that phone. He also stated that his "cell phone had called him" earlier that afternoon, and that he hoped his cell phone "wouldn't be making any 4:00 a.m. phone calls". The remainder of the conversation was in regards to how empty his apartment was, and how quiet it was, and that it was driving him crazy, how he couldn't wait for Cory to "come home". He was trying to pump me for information about Cory and Jodi's relationship, and whether or not I thought they would last.



11/17/07
1:17 P.M. Cory took and completed an at home drug test. I witnessed all steps of the test, and all steps were correctly followed, and verified by myself and John. The test is for amphetamines, methamphetamines, ecstasy, marijuana, cocaine and opiates. All test windows showed negative results, and have been verified by both John and myself.

11/18/07
4:41 P.M. Michael Shelton called to speak with Cory, and I informed him of Cory's drug test results.



11/19/07
7:36 P.M. Mike called me, and stated that Cory had "come by" the apartment earlier to talk. He also stated that he had gone to the police department and gotten copies of all the police reports, and that the reports had made for some interesting reading. He stated that on one of the police reports, a police officer had noted that he/she overheard Jodi on her cell phone to her mother yelling something to the effect of "he's lying to get what he wants" and "he's a fag". Mike then proceeded to tell me that one of the police reports had my address listed as a forwarding address for Cory, and asked if Cory was staying here. I told him no. Mike also stated that a neighbor of his had contacted him saying Jodi had called them, but I cannot remember what Mike's version of what Jodi said was. Mike further stated that Lisa would not talk to him, and that xxxxxxx had called him and told him that xxxxx does not like him, and that she is no longer allowed to talk to him. He said that at that point, and after seeing my address as Cory's forwarding address, that he believed that everybody was on "Cory's side", and that we all thought Mike was the crazy one.



That's when I stopped taking notes.
 
Thanks Michael!

In short-
Junkyard said:
Yesterday when this thread started, Mike called me letting me know this thread was here, he mentioned the day before that he "F**K Up" really bad. Yesterday he admitted to me that he sold items on Ebay that he did not have in possession to sell.

Second confirmation that mike admitted to stealing from these people.
 
critical bill said:
And some of you think that I drink too much. Ha.
After dealing with Mike for any amount of time I'm surprised that everyone involved isn't a raving alcoholic! After reading all of this I feel like I just got done watching a really bad Twilight Zone episode.

If anyone needs an "intervention" it's Mike, the rest is just bizarre...
 
critical bill said:
And some of you think that I drink too much. Ha.
After reading some of this and the rest of the crap that goes on, sometimes I think I don't drink enough...lol
 
LakesideBoas said:
After dealing with Mike for any amount of time I'm surprised that everyone involved isn't a raving alcoholic! After reading all of this I feel like I just got done watching a really bad Twilight Zone episode.

If anyone needs an "intervention" it's Mike, the rest is just bizarre...

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

I didn't even want to say anything because my first thought was, "This man has unrealized homosexual tendencies and Corey is the object of his fixation."

...and I am not joking.
 
LakesideBoas said:
After dealing with Mike for any amount of time I'm surprised that everyone involved isn't a raving alcoholic! After reading all of this I feel like I just got done watching a really bad Twilight Zone episode.

If anyone needs an "intervention" it's Mike, the rest is just bizarre...

I just don't know what to make of it. I think everything that could possibly happen in two lifetimes of filled psychotic nightmares has been pretty much covered. From multiple suicides to near death experiences, illegal drugs to captain morgan, and not to forget the hospital gangbang that involved mike and 18 hospital staff.

I need another drink.
 
well......
I only read some of it~ frankly I got bored long before the end.......
I don't see how y'all had the patience to sit around and listen to it live~ I don't even have the patience to read it all.

Wow~ y'all are very patient people.
I'm so glad he stopped calling me after two or three calls in which I did not have time to listen.........
 
critical bill said:
I just don't know what to make of it. I think everything that could possibly happen in two lifetimes of filled psychotic nightmares has been pretty much covered. From multiple suicides to near death experiences, illegal drugs to captain morgan, and not to forget the hospital gangbang that involved mike and 18 hospital staff.

I need another drink.

Please pour me one too Chuck, because I can't make any sense out of any of it sober. How truly far "gone" does one have to be to see the world as Mike does?

I haven't taken NEARLY enough abnormal psychology classes yet to even begin to understand.
 
I apologize, the hospital take down count was 12 people not 18.
 
Otter_23 said:
They aren't unrealized.


The only reason I even thought that was because everything *he was doing appeared to be a "cry for attention" and it nearly all seemed aimed at this Corey fella (in a roundabout way), that apparently didn't return the affection and had a girlfriend.

*also, next to psychotic women.."queens" love drama.

According to the "abnormal psychology" manual that I have lying around: The stealing was because he was too lazy to get a job and is waiting for his mother to pass on thinking that he's going to get a lot of money but failing to realize that he's already pissing it away. :yesnod:

I am already having that drink. :rofl:
 
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