It's common knowledge for those of us that have been around for awhile that Mike is gay. He didn't hide it. He and Cory were partners at one time also if I remember correctly.deborahbroadus said:The only reason I even thought that was because everything *he was doing appeared to be a "cry for attention" and it nearly all seemed aimed at this Corey fella (in a roundabout way), that apparently didn't return the affection and had a girlfriend.
*also, next to psychotic women.."queens" love drama.
According to the "abnormal psychology" manual that I have lying around: The stealing was because he was too lazy to get a job and is waiting for his mother to pass on thinking that he's going to get a lot of money but failing to realize that he's already pissing it away.
I am already having that drink.
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Mike Shoemaker - Rebel Dragons BAD GUY
- Thread starter Tere Salazar
- Start date
Michael, thanks for coming forward, you done the right thing bro.
I cannot say I did not know he was a scumbag tho, I been knowing it for a long time, I am just sorry for the ones that trusted him.
Now maybe I can get some of my friends back, a few of them put faith in Mike and turned their back on me for calling him on his actions. I never had any hard feelings with any of them, I knew they were buying his crap, I also knew one day it would all come out.
As I have stated long ago, and my feelings have not changed, Mike you are a sorry scumbag with the backbone of a jellyfish. You are 110% worthless, you are less than the scum under the toilet seat. You deserve everything you are going to get, and even more. Good luck with your pitiful life, BTW it takes a real maggot to steal from the one that gave birth to them, you are rotten to the core.
I cannot say I did not know he was a scumbag tho, I been knowing it for a long time, I am just sorry for the ones that trusted him.
Now maybe I can get some of my friends back, a few of them put faith in Mike and turned their back on me for calling him on his actions. I never had any hard feelings with any of them, I knew they were buying his crap, I also knew one day it would all come out.
As I have stated long ago, and my feelings have not changed, Mike you are a sorry scumbag with the backbone of a jellyfish. You are 110% worthless, you are less than the scum under the toilet seat. You deserve everything you are going to get, and even more. Good luck with your pitiful life, BTW it takes a real maggot to steal from the one that gave birth to them, you are rotten to the core.
Laura Fopiano
B&L Exotix
Jacklyne I'm so sorry for all of your troubles with this situation, I thought he was my friend and did learn other wise. And as promised I have started an auction for you good people who have been taken.
DThomas...duh, I need help posting the pix please help http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php? p=563184#post563184
DThomas...duh, I need help posting the pix please help http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php? p=563184#post563184
Tere Salazar
Just Me
redsox-fan said:
Another quick question, Marianna. Am I reading this correctly that you paid to Mike's account, then he refunded you and had you pay to his mother's account?
Cat_72
Back from exile :)
He wanted to make sure no one got their hands on the money, so he must have anticipated that his account would be frozen.
Imagine that.
Imagine that.
Tere Salazar
Just Me
Cat_72 said:
Wonder if Paypal has any clue that that account needs to be frozen, as well, as is unfortunate, since it's his mother's.
Wow. I can't believe I just read this entire thread start to finish.
Too many mixed emotions to count.
I'm sorry that more people have been victimized by this ... individual. I'm not surprised he took his scams outside the reptile world. I wish I could contribute to the fund, but I'm still paying off some moving and hospital expenses (the ER is a very expensive place for accident-prone people heh heh). I'll see what I can do though.
I'm sorry that he has betrayed other Fauna members as well. I can't say "I tried to warn you" because I have seen first hand just how good he is as what he does. I don't blame anyone for overlooking what I said what seems like years ago. If I were as persuasive as Mike Shoemaker, I'd seriously consider a career as a lobbyist.
I don't think he could ever truly be brought to justice for all that he's taken from people, because you just can't assign monetary values to certain things. I don't think that any form of punishment could change his spots, either. He is who/what he is.
Too many mixed emotions to count.
I'm sorry that more people have been victimized by this ... individual. I'm not surprised he took his scams outside the reptile world. I wish I could contribute to the fund, but I'm still paying off some moving and hospital expenses (the ER is a very expensive place for accident-prone people heh heh). I'll see what I can do though.
I'm sorry that he has betrayed other Fauna members as well. I can't say "I tried to warn you" because I have seen first hand just how good he is as what he does. I don't blame anyone for overlooking what I said what seems like years ago. If I were as persuasive as Mike Shoemaker, I'd seriously consider a career as a lobbyist.
I don't think he could ever truly be brought to justice for all that he's taken from people, because you just can't assign monetary values to certain things. I don't think that any form of punishment could change his spots, either. He is who/what he is.
Dennis Hultman
New member
Jacklyne, I'm sure many appreciate your position and posts as do I but you have already been warned. Post your full name please.
redsox-fan
New member
Saladragon said:
Yup...you got that right, except, believe it or not, he told me that the 2nd account was his wife's!!! I am SO-O-O stupid!
After reading all that everyone has been through, I think everyone needs halos for trying to be Mike's friend! Mike really needs some help! I can't figure out from all these posts if his brother is messed up, too or if it's just Mike making him crazy! And his POOR mother!!! No wonder she's in a nursing home in another state!!!
Marianna
redsox-fan
New member
This was the correspondence I had with Mike after his PayPal account was frozen.
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:46:42 -0800
> Subject: Your payment has been refunded
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
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> Dear M Bater,
>
> Michael Shoemaker ([email protected]) has issued you a full or partial refund for your payment.
>
> Please do not reply to this email. Email sent to this address cannot be answered.
>
> Message From Seller:
> Paypal has froze my account and is not allowing me to any further actions on this auction. I spent the entire morning fighting with them and I was told the only option I have is to refund money to the buyers.
>
> My sincere apologies,
>
> Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken & Marianna Bater
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Your payment has been refunded
Mike,
Does this mean I will not get the PS3? Please advise as I will need to make my purchase elsewhere.
Thanks
Marianna
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Re: Your payment has been refunded
From: Rebel Dragons ([email protected])
Sent:Sun 11/25/07 6:11 PM
To: Ken & Marianna Bater ([email protected])
Yes, that is correct, however if you don't wan to deal with another auction you can send payment to my wives paypal [email protected] and we can just go that route. A couple ohers that got refunded have done it that way and I was able to print shipping lables and their ps3's are being shipped out tomorrow.
Thanks,
Mike
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:46:42 -0800
> Subject: Your payment has been refunded
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
>
> Dear M Bater,
>
> Michael Shoemaker ([email protected]) has issued you a full or partial refund for your payment.
>
> Please do not reply to this email. Email sent to this address cannot be answered.
>
> Message From Seller:
> Paypal has froze my account and is not allowing me to any further actions on this auction. I spent the entire morning fighting with them and I was told the only option I have is to refund money to the buyers.
>
> My sincere apologies,
>
> Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken & Marianna Bater
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Your payment has been refunded
Mike,
Does this mean I will not get the PS3? Please advise as I will need to make my purchase elsewhere.
Thanks
Marianna
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Re: Your payment has been refunded
From: Rebel Dragons ([email protected])
Sent:Sun 11/25/07 6:11 PM
To: Ken & Marianna Bater ([email protected])
Yes, that is correct, however if you don't wan to deal with another auction you can send payment to my wives paypal [email protected] and we can just go that route. A couple ohers that got refunded have done it that way and I was able to print shipping lables and their ps3's are being shipped out tomorrow.
Thanks,
Mike
redsox-fan
New member
Saladragon said:
Tere,
Beth's Ebay name is "efprealtor".
Marianna
Serafim
Well-known member
After reading this I'm still in disbelief. This guy is a waste of Oxygen. To everyone effected by this idiot I hope you get what is owed. It takes a truly despicable human being to take advantage of a parent trying to provide their child a Christmas gift. Rest assured in the very End Old Mike will get what he is owed... Three hots and a cot on the states tab...
Reading this thread has been like watching a bad predictable movie. You know what's going to happen before the end of a scene. In this case what Mike is going to do next. Which is sad because i dint know him 
On a good note it's nice to see people that still care and props to everyone that has chipped in one way or another to make a strangers Holiday season a little better.
On a good note it's nice to see people that still care and props to everyone that has chipped in one way or another to make a strangers Holiday season a little better.
crotalusadamanteus
Brother Infidel
Man, I can't believe just how deep this rabbit hole goes. I feel bad for you people that were being friends and got dragged into his sick little games. Just not right for it to happen like that.
I was never really his friend, but I feel like a fool for giving him the benefit of the doubt all this time, and meanwhile it appears it was just part of his little master plan.
Truly sad.
I was never really his friend, but I feel like a fool for giving him the benefit of the doubt all this time, and meanwhile it appears it was just part of his little master plan.
Truly sad.
Tere Salazar
Just Me
redsox-fan said:
THAT makes my blood boil. How disgusting that he couldn't steal from you on one account, then succeeded using another account.
Thank you for answering my questions. You've been wonderful through all this.
Tere Salazar
Just Me
Dennis,
Two refunds issued thusfar:
Oinkette72 and EFPRealtor.
Two refunds issued thusfar:
Oinkette72 and EFPRealtor.
BalloonzForU
New member
Out of the 12 listed as winners, how many have confirmed that they did infact pay Mike?
That's another thing we need to get confirmed as we've already amassed a nice sum. So far we really only have two of them posting here and only one is out money. If we can't get the rest here, I guess one person will get re-imbursed completely and a children's charity will get a nice donation.BalloonzForU said: