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Mike Webb Southern Serpents Bad Guy
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I did go ahead a call Mike Webb this morning. Our original trade was turtles for garters but he didn't have the garters now (I didn't ask why). He is susposed to ship me a rosy boa and some texas rats instead. It isn't the garters I wanted but by now I would be surprised to receive anything. He said he would contact me the first of the week and let me know when he is going to ship. I will post if anything arrives.
A couple quotes from Mike's reply
I will be totally shocked if I receive a package this next week. I had already written this off as a learning experience. He originally told me he shipped my garters 12/16/02 from his last email to me. So I really don't have much faith that he will ever ship anything. Please prove me wrong Mike.
Respectfully,
I did go ahead a call Mike Webb this morning. Our original trade was turtles for garters but he didn't have the garters now (I didn't ask why). He is susposed to ship me a rosy boa and some texas rats instead. It isn't the garters I wanted but by now I would be surprised to receive anything. He said he would contact me the first of the week and let me know when he is going to ship. I will post if anything arrives.
A couple quotes from Mike's reply
We both agreed to that.
and this is always true.
I will be totally shocked if I receive a package this next week. I had already written this off as a learning experience. He originally told me he shipped my garters 12/16/02 from his last email to me. So I really don't have much faith that he will ever ship anything. Please prove me wrong Mike.
I don't think you will see much posting from him on here. He told me his dad had went away to college and he didn't have access to a computer except at the library. Anyway thanks to everyone for your help.
Respectfully,
smart_ask
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Waiting to hear from you Mike .... Advise when your going to ship.
Respectfully,
Respectfully,
smart_ask
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Its over
I won't go into all the details but I finally got something from Mike Webb of Southern Serpents. I sent Mike 9 turtles (valued at about $270.00) and received 3 young texas rat snakes and a young rosy boa. And all it took to get these snakes was 3 months. Our original trade was susposed to be for 20 checkerd garters but he didn't have them anymore.
He told me he was shipping UPS wednesday for thursday delivery so I took off work to receive them, but no snakes came and the tracking number he gave me didn't work. I called him thursday nite and he told me he had shipped them. After asking a few more questions I found out he had shipped USPS. This morning I called the post office and they did have a package to be delivered to me today. Not wanting to keep them in the box any longer than necessary. I went straight on and picked them up. I got a small box labeled crickets. When I opened it I had received the three small rat snakes and one small rosy boa. The box had no insulation or heat pack (nite temps here in the mid 30's and I told him that). I quess he thru in the mites for FREE.
To be honest I'm shocked to receive anything. I just wished he would have not lied when he told me multiple times he had shipped so I wouldn't have taken off work for nothing. This trade has cost me more than I care to admit in time a frustration.
If you decide to do business with him .... GOOD LUCK
Respectfully,
I won't go into all the details but I finally got something from Mike Webb of Southern Serpents. I sent Mike 9 turtles (valued at about $270.00) and received 3 young texas rat snakes and a young rosy boa. And all it took to get these snakes was 3 months. Our original trade was susposed to be for 20 checkerd garters but he didn't have them anymore.
He told me he was shipping UPS wednesday for thursday delivery so I took off work to receive them, but no snakes came and the tracking number he gave me didn't work. I called him thursday nite and he told me he had shipped them. After asking a few more questions I found out he had shipped USPS. This morning I called the post office and they did have a package to be delivered to me today. Not wanting to keep them in the box any longer than necessary. I went straight on and picked them up. I got a small box labeled crickets. When I opened it I had received the three small rat snakes and one small rosy boa. The box had no insulation or heat pack (nite temps here in the mid 30's and I told him that). I quess he thru in the mites for FREE.
To be honest I'm shocked to receive anything. I just wished he would have not lied when he told me multiple times he had shipped so I wouldn't have taken off work for nothing. This trade has cost me more than I care to admit in time a frustration.
If you decide to do business with him .... GOOD LUCK
Respectfully,
Southern Serpents
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Wait a minute
As for a last note, there were no heat packs because temps here were around 85degrees, heat pack would have cooked them. And I also told you that when I did get some checkered garters that I will send you some, and I still will too. But I don't see the mite thing here. I use black knight and no pest strips in my rooms, and I have not had a mite problem since June of last year. I checked them over for mites beforehand. But I'm not going to continue this argument. And its not hard to mistake ups for usps.
As for a last note, there were no heat packs because temps here were around 85degrees, heat pack would have cooked them. And I also told you that when I did get some checkered garters that I will send you some, and I still will too. But I don't see the mite thing here. I use black knight and no pest strips in my rooms, and I have not had a mite problem since June of last year. I checked them over for mites beforehand. But I'm not going to continue this argument. And its not hard to mistake ups for usps.
smart_ask
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Hello
Mike,
I can see your point about the heat packs and I'm sorry and stand corrected. To be honest we should have waited a bit on shipping and I'll take credit for that mistake but really I didn't think you would ship anything anyway. Either way I'll take the bad for ok'ing shipment in these conditions but you could have insulated the box. Just plain card board box.... really. A little styrofoam goes a long way.
You did say you would send me some garters. You also said a couple months ago you HAD shipped my garters. You also said my snakes would arrive thursday which I took off work to be here only to have them arrive friday which was a day and a half work missed. I was here for the well being of the snakes. It does cut into my pockets to have to miss so much work for one order because someone can't get it together.
Have I lied to you .... to anyone for that matter. I'm not saying
this as a strike or to be mean but the rosy had mite(s). I got an adult one off it. It may have been in the bag or whatever but I know a mite when I see it. I didn't really detail the snakes looking for them or anything just found one adult mite crawling on my hand while handling the rosy. To be honest I think thats the reason its so under weight. I don't check for mites because I always treat for mites reguardless.
You may have said USPS. If you did, I did misunderstand and thought you said UPS or I would have suggested other.
Not meaning to be harsh but man I waited for days here after you told me you had shipped. You never answered me when I tried to contact you. You told me you shipped so many times then nothing comes. I would have to miss work to receive your shipment then nothing comes. Just too much hassle, really. When I told you I shipped .. I had. Thats respect for others ...... you need to learn that.
Respectfully,
Mike,
I can see your point about the heat packs and I'm sorry and stand corrected. To be honest we should have waited a bit on shipping and I'll take credit for that mistake but really I didn't think you would ship anything anyway. Either way I'll take the bad for ok'ing shipment in these conditions but you could have insulated the box. Just plain card board box.... really. A little styrofoam goes a long way.
You did say you would send me some garters. You also said a couple months ago you HAD shipped my garters. You also said my snakes would arrive thursday which I took off work to be here only to have them arrive friday which was a day and a half work missed. I was here for the well being of the snakes. It does cut into my pockets to have to miss so much work for one order because someone can't get it together.
Have I lied to you .... to anyone for that matter. I'm not saying
this as a strike or to be mean but the rosy had mite(s). I got an adult one off it. It may have been in the bag or whatever but I know a mite when I see it. I didn't really detail the snakes looking for them or anything just found one adult mite crawling on my hand while handling the rosy. To be honest I think thats the reason its so under weight. I don't check for mites because I always treat for mites reguardless.
You may have said USPS. If you did, I did misunderstand and thought you said UPS or I would have suggested other.
Not meaning to be harsh but man I waited for days here after you told me you had shipped. You never answered me when I tried to contact you. You told me you shipped so many times then nothing comes. I would have to miss work to receive your shipment then nothing comes. Just too much hassle, really. When I told you I shipped .. I had. Thats respect for others ...... you need to learn that.
Respectfully,
Southern Serpents
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I've got everything back in working order. What had happened before was my fault and I feel that what happens in my personal life is my buisness. I don't think that it needs to be justified to a bunch of strangers on the computer. DO any of you think that if something goes wrong with your buisness some time because of a divorce or court battle or family death that you need to explain it and justify it on the net to a bunch of strangers? I am back in buisness and have fixed all the problems and pretty much will only ship cod to prevent any problem if anything should happen again. Now if some snakes don't make it nobody is going to be out anything. But I have made quite a few deals and now have some good references that will back me up. I will have pics in a few weeks available of every animal that I will post on here. If anybody has any questions feel free to email me at [email protected]. I feel that most of what has been said here by strangers is Slander but I can see thats how the board works. People either say hes a good guy or they write 30 something replies on how horribly awful they are. Thats fine before long all this awful stuff won't apply to me anyways and all anybody will have to say is hes a good guy.
I've got everything back in working order. What had happened before was my fault and I feel that what happens in my personal life is my buisness. I don't think that it needs to be justified to a bunch of strangers on the computer. DO any of you think that if something goes wrong with your buisness some time because of a divorce or court battle or family death that you need to explain it and justify it on the net to a bunch of strangers? I am back in buisness and have fixed all the problems and pretty much will only ship cod to prevent any problem if anything should happen again. Now if some snakes don't make it nobody is going to be out anything. But I have made quite a few deals and now have some good references that will back me up. I will have pics in a few weeks available of every animal that I will post on here. If anybody has any questions feel free to email me at [email protected]. I feel that most of what has been said here by strangers is Slander but I can see thats how the board works. People either say hes a good guy or they write 30 something replies on how horribly awful they are. Thats fine before long all this awful stuff won't apply to me anyways and all anybody will have to say is hes a good guy.
gila7150
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OK....So since you've turned a new leaf I have a question...
Did Stephen ever receive those checkered garters you promised him back in March?
Chris Raden
Did Stephen ever receive those checkered garters you promised him back in March?
Chris Raden
gila7150
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one more thing...
Did Dana get her $40 back from you?
Or do you just feel like you should get to start over from scratch while your old customers are still empty handed?
...it don't work like that
Did Dana get her $40 back from you?
Or do you just feel like you should get to start over from scratch while your old customers are still empty handed?
...it don't work like that
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Just a few points :
No, it's no one's business that you are having problems of a personal nature UNLESS you make it the business of your customers by not following through on your business deals!!!
You say you are turning over a new leaf? Fine, will you then stop shipping illegally (ie: shipping snakes via USPS)???
You also say that to avoid future difficulties, you are going to ship c.o.d. Did you know that shipping c.o.d. requires that the receiver not be allowed to open the box before payment is made? How is that going to help you from charging people for dead snakes in any way at all???
Finally, you suggested that much of what was written about you was slanderous. Might I suggest you get out your handy-dandy legal dictionary and discover the definitions of big words before you attempt to use them?
The point of fact is that you have not made any kind of real attempt to repay the money that you owe to people, you have not addressed the manner in which you ship, you have not adequately addressed the risk of having animals shipped from you, and you have tried to attack the character of those who had the audacity to call you on your illegal and unethical practices! Yep, that sure sounds like you're turning over a new leaf to me!!!!
No, it's no one's business that you are having problems of a personal nature UNLESS you make it the business of your customers by not following through on your business deals!!!
You say you are turning over a new leaf? Fine, will you then stop shipping illegally (ie: shipping snakes via USPS)???
You also say that to avoid future difficulties, you are going to ship c.o.d. Did you know that shipping c.o.d. requires that the receiver not be allowed to open the box before payment is made? How is that going to help you from charging people for dead snakes in any way at all???
Finally, you suggested that much of what was written about you was slanderous. Might I suggest you get out your handy-dandy legal dictionary and discover the definitions of big words before you attempt to use them?
The point of fact is that you have not made any kind of real attempt to repay the money that you owe to people, you have not addressed the manner in which you ship, you have not adequately addressed the risk of having animals shipped from you, and you have tried to attack the character of those who had the audacity to call you on your illegal and unethical practices! Yep, that sure sounds like you're turning over a new leaf to me!!!!
breadfan
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mike not a bad guy
sounds like a few of you have had a bad incident with mike, but i have done plenty of business with him over the last 3 years and have had no problems. i have done some trades, sold him animals, and purchased from him. never had any problems with shipping or anything arriving sick or injured. as a matter of fact, i bought a trio of ornate box turtles from him 2 years back and they drowned when my house flooded from hurricane rita and he replaced them only charging me shipping.
sounds like a few of you have had a bad incident with mike, but i have done plenty of business with him over the last 3 years and have had no problems. i have done some trades, sold him animals, and purchased from him. never had any problems with shipping or anything arriving sick or injured. as a matter of fact, i bought a trio of ornate box turtles from him 2 years back and they drowned when my house flooded from hurricane rita and he replaced them only charging me shipping.
Pine Snake Piney
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All,
I have made several transactions with Mike over the last year and I am a very happy customer. The animals he sent me were top notch. No complaints here. He even shipped a package over night when I only paid for 2-day service, so that extra money came out of his pocket. I enjoy dealing with him and will do again very soon.
Respectfully,
----Brian
I have made several transactions with Mike over the last year and I am a very happy customer. The animals he sent me were top notch. No complaints here. He even shipped a package over night when I only paid for 2-day service, so that extra money came out of his pocket. I enjoy dealing with him and will do again very soon.
Respectfully,
----Brian
Boy, we are a little harsh aren't we?
Depending on were you live is how the shipping promise goes on the turn-around times. Even if you ship Delta Dash, it doesn't mean bad things can't happen. Granted these are living creatures, the animals mentioned are inexpensive and replaceable and things happen out of our control. I have had nothing but good business experiences with Mike Webb.
Garth
Depending on were you live is how the shipping promise goes on the turn-around times. Even if you ship Delta Dash, it doesn't mean bad things can't happen. Granted these are living creatures, the animals mentioned are inexpensive and replaceable and things happen out of our control. I have had nothing but good business experiences with Mike Webb.
Garth
k.williams55
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Mikee Webb/Odessa, Texas
He advertises primarily on kingsnake.com under Mike Webb/Southern Serpents. His current Cell Phone is (432) 413-5630. His website with this info is there on his ads. He has several on kingsnake now. I contacted him about an alterna he had, but when I saw all of this, I was not sending money to him. I have no experience with this guy, just current contact info.
He advertises primarily on kingsnake.com under Mike Webb/Southern Serpents. His current Cell Phone is (432) 413-5630. His website with this info is there on his ads. He has several on kingsnake now. I contacted him about an alterna he had, but when I saw all of this, I was not sending money to him. I have no experience with this guy, just current contact info.
Millerlite009
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Hello all<
Just wanted to say i have bought from mike a few times and all the times i have its been great. Very smooth he reply to my emails, and always giving me updated listings via email. I can ask him any question and he will answer it without a problem. Just 2 months ago i bought 10 box turtles from him, all healthy and good to go. I trust him, and would do business again with him, planing on buying more turtles in a few weeks.
Just wanted to say i have bought from mike a few times and all the times i have its been great. Very smooth he reply to my emails, and always giving me updated listings via email. I can ask him any question and he will answer it without a problem. Just 2 months ago i bought 10 box turtles from him, all healthy and good to go. I trust him, and would do business again with him, planing on buying more turtles in a few weeks.
ebb1542
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mike web not so bad
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in the past i have got over 8 box turtles from this man, all have come very healthy and active. i have been trying to start a small family of box turtles been to many local reptile shows looking for a few special turtles (very dark and very bright shells) he was able to help me find some of these. i have not talked with him in a month or so but he treated me good,
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in the past i have got over 8 box turtles from this man, all have come very healthy and active. i have been trying to start a small family of box turtles been to many local reptile shows looking for a few special turtles (very dark and very bright shells) he was able to help me find some of these. i have not talked with him in a month or so but he treated me good,
I bought some box turtles from Mike Webb a couple years back and it was a really good transaction. My turtles arrived in good condition without illness and on the day he told me to expect them for arrival. I have never had any problems with my easterns and would totally order from him again. He emails me updated lists to this day. 
jonnyreptile
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Wow, I've gotten animals from Mike Webb twice. It was flawless. The animals were just as described. Also, above all his permits were all in order. Very , very professional and would order again no problem. Jon
ebb1542
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someone had a problem i guess, not me. im still talking with him. i have been looking for some almost black box turtles some gold and any odd balls.