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just saying. you all took it too far now others are taking it far with you right back.

Think closely about what you are accomplishing. Have you ever heard of a successful business or breeder that goes on a vengeful streak? Usually they shut their mouths, get their act together and resolve the issue and apologize. Even if they don't mean it. That's how you run a successful operation. It seems like common sense to me :shrug01:. Instead, you choose to gloat and revel in harassment of a member. I know you feel some sort of weird self-righteous fulfillment, but it's pretty pathetic to the rest of us and will be clear to your informed customers.

The funny thing is in all of this, you could have just done the right thing in the first place and had this over with. This is abundantly clear. Seeing you make the same mistakes over and over without learning a single thing or admitting a shred of responsibility is frustrating and nears the definition of insanity.
 
Mindy, real breeders, the ones who really care about their animals, the once who take animals to real vets, who have real tests done, who take real responsibility for their actions... they really don't spread virus/disease because they really do the right thing. And that's on the real!
 
ANYONE can potentially spread a deadly reptile virus whether they had a snake die in their colletion or not. so maybe every breeder on earth will get reamed for "potentially spreading a disease" too? Thought not ;)

When it becomes public knowledge that they had a die off and a disease was suspected and they continued to sell animals they HAVE been called out in the past.
Do a search on here. You will see others having a spotlight on them for issues.
Mindy, you are too young to remember Top Shelf Exotics and how they were one of the good guys in the industry but when they screwed customers, they got called out and hammered on the BOI. They were one of the "big guys" and still exposed for what they were. No one is singled out. Big guys, little guys, they all end up on the BOI when they jeopardize the hobby.
 
Apparently, she wants to keep this on the top.

Only thing texting Jen is doing, is showing them for who they are.
 

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ANYONE can potentially spread a deadly reptile virus whether they had a snake die in their colletion or not. so maybe every breeder on earth will get reamed for "potentially spreading a disease" too? Thought not ;)

I'm not sure if you think you're being cute or are just willfully ignorant, but please stop with this nonsense. You know better.
 
So if i never told anyone about my one dead snake this wouldnt be happening and nobody would know? Yep. Makes me wonder how many of the "big breeders" have deaths and don't mention them. Probably at least 25% of them. That's a good educated guess seeing how easily it is to have BPs get stressed and die or get sick from being compromised even slightly. How many big breeders never mention having RIs or mites? I know one of the top five people in the country who sell sick snakes on the regular that end up dying. Its all over BOI. But forgotten about in a day or two and that person still keeps on going. But no, you aren't singling me out. LOL
 
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So if i never told anyone about my one dead snake this wouldnt be happening and nobody would know? Yep. Makes me wonder how many of the "big breeders" have deaths and don't mention them. Probably at least 25% of them. That's a good educated guess seeing how easily it is to have BPs get stressed and die or get sick from being compromised even slightly. How many big breeders never mention having RIs or mites? I know one of the top five people in the country who sell sick snakes on the regular that end up dying. Its all over BOI. But forgotten about in a day or two and that person still keeps on going. But no, you aren't singling me out. LOL

Everyone can have a snake die. Your snake died and you said that the breeder had their whole collection wiped out from a highly contagious disease. Big difference.
 
ANDY MAVROS THIS SIDE OF PARADISE PETS
MINDY COMEAU



It's been a long thread, just thought I'd refresh plus reprint the great overview by Jen Harrison.


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Originally Posted by Pink Lady Exotics View Post
Per Mindy's own words, she stated she contacted the seller of the snake and found out they lost a lot of their collection, and necropsies of their snakes showed peripheral inclusions in the blood.

Also, per her own words, she has bought and sold several snakes since her snake's death, including a boa litter born in May. 2 of those boas she sold died -- one died on September 7th within a few weeks of leaving her collection, the other died within just 1 week of leaving her collection. The first supposedly died from "organ failure caused by being fed weekly", and the other supposedly died from "thermostat failure". Necropsies were not performed on either boa. There is also a 3rd snake at her "store" that was on the verge of death:
She also claims to QT, but per her Instagram, she was photographing several newly acquired snakes with her established snakes, including those that had been around the one that died:
The summary is this: Mindy had a snake die from what she suspected as IBD, that she states came from a vendor who lost a significant portion of their collection to IBD. She never had a necropsy or any testing done herself, so it could have been any number of other known viruses like PMV or BPNV, or just a random fluke. No way to know. She continued buying and selling animals immediately after, often mixing them together for pics (including the snake housed with the suspected IBD snake), thus no quarantine whatsoever. Mindy then admits that 2 of the boas she sold in that timeframe died in their owners' care -- one in less than a month of its arrival, the other in less than a WEEK. She claims one died from overheating, the other died from organ failure caused by "being fed weekly". Both are suspicious at best, and a coincidence that they both came from her. Then a third snake in her care, at her "store", almost died from extreme weight loss. NOW she's looking to sell off her entire collection. On top of that, she repeatedly deletes/bans/blocks anyone on Facebook that contradicts or questions her, refuses to listen to or acknowledge hobbyists with far more knowledge and experience than her that have tried to get through to her, and deletes/hides every last shred of evidence on her Instagram and her Facebook profile once it is questioned...which is kinda sketchy.

Given all of the above, I feel that warrants an FYI to potential buyers, so that people can read the information themselves and make an educated decision before buying her animals, and if they do, at least be aware that they should be strictly quarantined to err on the side of caution.
 
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So if i never told anyone about my one dead snake this wouldnt be happening and nobody would know? correct, you spoke ignorantly and now it has come to haunt you. Yep. Makes me wonder how many of the "big breeders" have deaths and don't mention them. Quite possibly a few, difference is, a reputable breeder will halt sales & get testing done. Probably at least 25% of them. That's a good educated guess seeing how easily it is to have BPs get stressed and die or get sick from being compromised even slightly. How many big breeders never mention having RIs or mites? Really? Mites happen, so do RIs, it's not what happens, it's how you handle what happens. I know one of the top five people in the country who sell sick snakes on the regular that end up dying. Its all over BOI. But forgotten about in a day or two and that person still keeps on going. Again, not what happens, it's all in how the issue is dealt with. But no, you aren't singling me out. No, you do a great job at keeping yourself at the forefront, so that you cannot be forgotten. Your LIST brought this thread back to the top. You continue to bring this on yourself. LOL
 
Only thing the cops can do, is tell you to stop harassing Jen. Texting someone nonstop is harassment and a crime. This is very childish. And only making yourself look bad. Really bad.
 
a good educated guess

That's a big part of what brought about this whole train wreck - your hubristic tendencies. If you've made one thing abundantly clear, it's that you obviously think waaayyyyyy too highly of yourself and just how "educated" you are on the subject of herpetoculture; or life in general. Maybe when you grow up, you'll come to know enough to realize that you currently know next to nothing. Sadly, with the way you're going about this, your youthful faults and indiscretions may end up digging you a hole that you'll never climb out of - no matter how much you may eventually learn.

You may want to Google your name and see just how quickly this thread is working it's way toward the first page of results; your "business" name is already there. If you don't believe in the power of the internet and the BOI, you're seriously deluding yourself. As much as I love watching someone else implode; you may want to start considering a hasty exit strategy. You're really not fooling anyone into thinking that you're not seriously sh:censored:ting bricks right now. Your bravado is comically transparent. I'm sure you'll just use this to feed your little persecution complex, but this really is more good advice that you simply lack the capacity to accept. It's kinda sad, really.
 
You are not only harassing Jen, you are also threatening to call her employers and show up at her house. For what? Stalking and harassment. I hope Jen is filing a police report right now, because that's exactly what I would be doing. Holy smokes.
 
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a conversation between mindy or andy and Jenn would have been one thing but they took it a little too far. Those messages seem like they are written by someone who isn't stable and while it's unlikely that they will buy a plane ticket to act on them I still wouldnt take threats like those lightly
 
Awwwww you guys are cute

You're psychotic. And I guess I can quote a movie on this one... "You have no power over me." You're nothing but a child who thinks that they know what the heck they're doing, when in reality, they're only screwing up their own life. But you keep on with that. Andy apparently doesn't care what happens to his reputation in this hobby, so we know where he stands with you.

YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE.


just saying. you all took it too far now others are taking it far with you right back.

Both of you are sad, pathetic individuals and need to get help. Goodness gracious!

Also...You're the only one that brought this on yourself. If you want to act like everyone else did it to you, then you can. But that won't save your reputation, nor will it save you from having your own words thrown back in your face. But you have fun with what you're doing. If you don't slow your roll, you'll more than likely wind up in jail. But by all means, have fun destroying your own life.
 
Calling peoples previous employers under false pretenses and pretending to be considering hiring them, Mindy? Wow. Wow, even more that you provided the evidence. Your mother keeps bringing up suing people, you should ask her what that just did to you and any thought of ever bringing a case.

Something tells me when those messages are posted locally, :shrug01: I wonder how many families are going to come into that shop?

I wonder how many local LGBT are also going to take issue with those comments.
 
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