"MnJ" Snake, Tortoise, Reptile Rescue - VA ???

[reptilesrcool]

Wow i thought chuckie boy there forgot all about me and my big rear end rotfl thank you for coming back to the thread we missed ya and your name calling chuckie

 

[Gary O]

Have you talked to your partner about removing the bad info that is put out? I see he has really slowed down on putting out vids. If he would get some vids with correct info and remove the ones with the bad info it would be great. Also if you are still looking for the place where he said that a Coral snake is a good first hot I can give that to you.....

 

[reptilesrcool]

Yes Gary i would love the link to that also i talked to him about the vids and hopefully if all works out correctly we will have some really good ones up with great info i have not talked to him in few but i will remind him today about that

 

[reptilesrcool]

Because i will state this for the record when it comes to hots there is no good beginer in my opionion because all hots have the ability to kill or seriously harm someone

 

[Gary O]

http://youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=mt1WPOKFVvc&fromurl=/watch?v=mt1WPOKFVvc


That is the link to the comments. It is towards the bottom.

militaryproductions (2 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam Wat is a good frist Venomous Snake that is not a copperhead??????

MUFFDADDY2 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply thats a tough quesitons becuase there reall is no good FIRST venomous snakes, but if i were to anser the question perhaps a coral snake becuase thewy ar enot aggresive and their bite mostly is not succeful in inhjecting venom for alot of reasonm, but their venom is moderatly potent! also a rear fanged hot would be a good idea

It is on this video comments just incase the link does not work for the all comments link.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mt1WPOKFVvc

 

[reptilesrcool]

Even large constrictors have the ability to kill someone if caution is not taken i believe in saftey and caution first before dealing with any hots or large constrictors and all because some vids show the hooks in the room thats just there for backup honestly we got plenty of professional tools here we work with daily you can bet that and we will show you on the next few vids on what i am talking about

 

[Gary O]

Yes Gary i would love the link to that also i talked to him about the vids and hopefully if all works out correctly we will have some really good ones up with great info i have not talked to him in few but i will remind him today about that

Good steps...

 

[Gary O]

Even large constrictors have the ability to kill someone if caution is not taken i believe in saftey and caution first before dealing with any hots or large constrictors and all because some vids show the hooks in the room thats just there for backup honestly we got plenty of professional tools here we work with daily you can bet that and we will show you on the next few vids on what i am talking about

I would take some of them tools that Nick has shown and throw them away..... To tell you the truth.

And I would take some of hisvids and throw them away. I would talk to him but he has shown me he does what he wants no matter what. That is dangerous in the hobby I love including Hot keeping.

 

[reptilesrcool]

Well i will tell you this straight up a coral snakes venom is highly dangerous and yes they are rear fanged but that does not prove to be a very good snake to have for people who do not know what they are doing and thats not a risk i am willing to send out there in any message because there venom is highly dangerous

 

[areptiledisfunction98045]

Yep they will make the video really soon, because todays the first of the month! Thats when the Welfare check comes ya know!! Allow 7-10 days for shipping so new video showing your professional tools by the what the 12th is that doable. Oh and am I right, id the new "facility" in a trailer park????

 

[reptilesrcool]

Hots are very beautiful and need respect and caution when dealing with them i would never ever use those hooks i threw together for them NEVER i am a lil crazy but i am not that crazy i hate playing with fait and hate testing god so i use my professional tools when it comes to having to bring them out for cage cleaning other than that they are just like fish you put them in and admire there beauty thats it they are not something you take out and play with like a ball python or something i hope noone is that stupid to do that lol i made mistakes in the past but that was alot of learning and scary moments of dealing with hots which i have learned from and i am still here thank god but people getting into the hobby need to be taught before handling or keeping hots honestly because one mistake can cause death or some serious medical troubles for life

 

[Gary O]

Well i will tell you this straight up a coral snakes venom is highly dangerous and yes they are rear fanged but that does not prove to be a very good snake to have for people who do not know what they are doing and thats not a risk i am willing to send out there in any message because there venom is highly dangerous

This is what I am talking about. Coral snakes are not a rear fanged snake. They are an elapid. They ARE a front fixed fang snake.

A very highly toxic snake.

I am not going off here. Just trying to educate.

 

[Gary O]

Hots are very beautiful and need respect and caution when dealing with them i would never ever use those hooks i threw together for them NEVER i am a lil crazy but i am not that crazy i hate playing with fait and hate testing god so i use my professional tools when it comes to having to bring them out for cage cleaning other than that they are just like fish you put them in and admire there beauty thats it they are not something you take out and play with like a ball python or something i hope noone is that stupid to do that lol i made mistakes in the past but that was alot of learning and scary moments of dealing with hots which i have learned from and i am still here thank god but people getting into the hobby need to be taught before handling or keeping hots honestly because one mistake can cause death or some serious medical troubles for life

Like Nick posting the vid saying he touched the Copperhead 7 times.

I know it is not you. But iut is your partner. and as you see you need to also learn a bit about venomous before giving out info. Like saying Corals are rear fanged. That is one of the BIGGEST myths about them. I am not really sure who made that up.....

 

[Jim O]

Like Nick posting the vid saying he touched the Copperhead 7 times.

I know it is not you. But iut is your partner. and as you see you need to also learn a bit about venomous before giving out info. Like saying Corals are rear fanged. That is one of the BIGGEST myths about them. I am not really sure who made that up.....

Gary,

I admire your tenacity in this thread, and keeping your cool in light of what has been said to you. You're a good man.



I can't help but feel that some people who are posting here are good Darwin Awards candidates.

 

[reptilesrcool]

i seen during m research that coral snakes are rear fanged maybe i am mistaken on that i will look into that when i get back thank you gary for the info as i never had no interest in coral snakes at all i just know there rep and how dangerous there venom is but i will look them up later on thank you so much for the info i will be back later to talk somemore about this

 

[areptiledisfunction98045]

Nick knows nothing we know this, Mike might know something, this I am not to sure of, but I have not seen conclusive proof that he is incapable of keeping snakes. Though you have proven to save the myths and dump the good info.

BTW are you going to answer my question? If you don't I will assume the answer is Yes.

 

[Gary O]

http://www.madprogrammer.com/snakes/CoralSnake/index.html

http://www.venomousreptiles.org/forums/Experts/14745

That will show you the skull of a Coral. As you see it is a front fanged snake. The beggining of that page it shows the myths about the coral.

When giving out info on venomous you first must know what you are talking about. Not think you know. Becuase bad venomous info will KILL a person. Life before greed!

I can talk this all day. I can help you with any knowledge I have myself but also I do not even come close to knowing it all. But I can help guide someone in the right direction if they are willing.

 

[Gary O]

Gary,

I admire your tenacity in this thread, and keeping your cool in light of what has been said to you. You're a good man.



I can't help but feel that some people who are posting here are good Darwin Awards candidates.

Thanks for the kind comments.

It comes down to I care more about this hobby then name calling. They can call me every name in the book. I will just look past it. As education and this hobby means more then me making a vid calling them names and what not. I am sure I will be featured in a vid of Nick's one day.

I really did call Nick too and try to help him. But when I got back from my weekend shows i see he is right back to his old self. IMO he can say anything he wants. His actions and vids speak loudly. He cares more about making fun of others and getting subscribers. I trully think he would do anything to get subscribers.

Al is my friend. He was cool with the vid Nick did about him. They laughed. But I think Child Molestation is not something to joke about. That is my opinion though. And some may not see it the same way I do. And that is fine with me. There is a line and Nick keeps jumping over it and laughing about it.

 

[areptiledisfunction98045]

Gary do you breed hots for market? (excuse my ignorance I am fairly new to internet herp community) I just do not see breeding hots as being a very profitable venture, well breeding snakes anyway as very profitable. It is one of those things you do out of passion, and hey if its profitable, cool but I doubt most people ever break even, after over head.

I think it would be good to hand these two some financial information. I mean these two Youtube a holics surely watch snakebytes by BHB enterprises. Brian is always saying in his videos how bad he is hurting, and that is the largest breeder in the world!!!

 

[Gary O]

Gary do you breed hots for market? (excuse my ignorance I am fairly new to internet herp community) I just do not see breeding hots as being a very profitable venture, well breeding snakes anyway as very profitable. It is one of those things you do out of passion, and hey if its profitable, cool but I doubt most people ever break even, after over head.

I think it would be good to hand these two some financial information. I mean these two Youtube a holics surely watch snakebytes by BHB enterprises. Brian is always saying in his videos how bad he is hurting, and that is the largest breeder in the world!!!

Trust me Brian is ok with money lol.

But I do not Breed venomous for profit. My Venomous is my personal Collection. I will buy groups and trade off the ones I do not want for other hots I do want.

As for nonvenomous breeding. I do ok.... lol.