reelcoolfish
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Hello, I normally don't like to discuss seller issues publicly. In the past few years I have bought a fair number of reptiles from a number of great people, and I have had a few problems, but have always been able to work through the problems privately and come to fair resolutions. This is a last resort, I am frustrated.
Moana sold me an adult 2010 female diamond python, that is a male and won't do anything to resolve the issue!
Last July of 2015, I worked out a deal with Moana McAdams, of MoJo's Reptiles for two Jaguar pythons and one 2010 adult diamond python. I paid $2,850 total for the three snakes. Specifically, I paid $1,500 for an adult the female diamond python, named "ISIS".
The snakes were held until early September of 2015 for shipping, because it was hot and for payments, ect. Because of logistical considerations and temperatures, Moana shipped ISIS while in shed.
When the snake arrived the two Jags were exactly as described. I have no problems with either of these two animals, they are doing great and are currently healthy.
However, when I received the box from shipping, the snake bag holding ISIS was soaked and wet, and animal had pooped in the bag and had shed partially during shipping. I told Moana, on several occasions, that I noted wheezing/popping from ISIS after I received the snake. About 4 weeks later, ISIS had developed a significant RI needing treatment. I successfully treated the RI with Tylan injections after discussing treatment options with Moana, and the snake seems to be healthy now with no recurrance so far. I did not cool the snake this winter because of the RI, so I could not attempt to breed it. I am not overly concerned about the RI, and had this been the only issue, it would have not been a point of contention.
However, the next shed cycle, in November, ISIS shed very prominent "plugs", appearing to be a male. I have since probed the animal at over 9 scales and close to 2", indicating the snake is almost certainly a male.
When I contacted the Moana and old her that the animal was a male and not what I wanted, she basically said the animal was sold to her as a female and it was not her fault, indicating it was my problem now. She said it "happens from time to time'. She has now ceased communication with me and we have not communicated over the winter. There is not a safe to send reptiles in my cold climate anyway in the winter.
This is not a hatchling miss-sexing issue. If this was a hatchling, and not highly valued, I would ignore it, mistakes happen. However, no high valued adult snake that is sexable should be sold miss-sexed.
The value of a undocumented male adult diamond is roughly less than half of a female. With the history of RI, the value of the male is significantly less than $1,500, and it is not what I wanted.
I am open resolve this in may ways. I could return the diamond and get a full refund, I could sell the animal, and she could refund the difference, or finally, we could work out a trade for other snake(s) of a fair value to what I paid.
I am hoping to peacefully resolve this. I have sent a PM to Moana on Facebook alerting her of this post.
Moana sold me an adult 2010 female diamond python, that is a male and won't do anything to resolve the issue!
Last July of 2015, I worked out a deal with Moana McAdams, of MoJo's Reptiles for two Jaguar pythons and one 2010 adult diamond python. I paid $2,850 total for the three snakes. Specifically, I paid $1,500 for an adult the female diamond python, named "ISIS".
The snakes were held until early September of 2015 for shipping, because it was hot and for payments, ect. Because of logistical considerations and temperatures, Moana shipped ISIS while in shed.
When the snake arrived the two Jags were exactly as described. I have no problems with either of these two animals, they are doing great and are currently healthy.
However, when I received the box from shipping, the snake bag holding ISIS was soaked and wet, and animal had pooped in the bag and had shed partially during shipping. I told Moana, on several occasions, that I noted wheezing/popping from ISIS after I received the snake. About 4 weeks later, ISIS had developed a significant RI needing treatment. I successfully treated the RI with Tylan injections after discussing treatment options with Moana, and the snake seems to be healthy now with no recurrance so far. I did not cool the snake this winter because of the RI, so I could not attempt to breed it. I am not overly concerned about the RI, and had this been the only issue, it would have not been a point of contention.
However, the next shed cycle, in November, ISIS shed very prominent "plugs", appearing to be a male. I have since probed the animal at over 9 scales and close to 2", indicating the snake is almost certainly a male.
When I contacted the Moana and old her that the animal was a male and not what I wanted, she basically said the animal was sold to her as a female and it was not her fault, indicating it was my problem now. She said it "happens from time to time'. She has now ceased communication with me and we have not communicated over the winter. There is not a safe to send reptiles in my cold climate anyway in the winter.
This is not a hatchling miss-sexing issue. If this was a hatchling, and not highly valued, I would ignore it, mistakes happen. However, no high valued adult snake that is sexable should be sold miss-sexed.
The value of a undocumented male adult diamond is roughly less than half of a female. With the history of RI, the value of the male is significantly less than $1,500, and it is not what I wanted.
I am open resolve this in may ways. I could return the diamond and get a full refund, I could sell the animal, and she could refund the difference, or finally, we could work out a trade for other snake(s) of a fair value to what I paid.
I am hoping to peacefully resolve this. I have sent a PM to Moana on Facebook alerting her of this post.
