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Two years is a long time.....but George seems to be admitting that he was made aware of the issue 6-8 months after the sale. Yes, that's still a long time to not advise the seller of the problem; but depending on what George's response was, it may not invalidate the OP's claim.
So, what was the response, when James told George about the incorrectly sexed cinny?
 
To the left, the OP may not have massive amounts of females to breed this male to. Maybe, and I don't know, he didn't find out it was a male until he put another male in with it.

Exactly how many months ago was the purchase? Are there pictures of the snake you bought that we can compare to the snake you now have.

As far as a timeline on mis-sexed animals, everyone has the right to establish one for THEIR animals, but no one can say what that a certain amount of time voids any problem with SOMEONE else's deal.

How many snakes have you sexed ms. broadus? How many times were you incorrect?

I sold a FWC to a guy and it was 2 years before he tried to breed it only to find out I had made an error. I rectified the situation. It's not about time, it's about a mistake being made right.

If the seller made a mistake, time doesn't matter. Something needs to be done to make the buyer whole, and in MY opinion not a deal on another purchase as the sole method. Give the guy a '12 female cinny for example, or that yearling for the price of a '12 baby.

No matter what though, the buyer needs to prove that the snake he now has is the snake the seller sold him. Without that, all of this is moot.

Are there pictures of the snake when it was purchased?
 
hhmoore said:
Two years is a long time.....but George seems to be admitting that he was made aware of the issue 6-8 months after the sale. Yes, that's still a long time to not advise the seller of the problem; but depending on what George's response was, it may not invalidate the OP's claim.
So, what was the response, when James told George about the incorrectly sexed cinny?
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Even the time frame of when he metioned it was still after the fact(he did not have the animal with him)..Iam very easy to find ,If he would have told me alot sooner something could have been done at THAT point ..Here's an example of the time frame. The females (fire/enchi) That produced the enchi creams .Where hatchlings on display at the same show in question..

I take great pride in my customer service an CLEAN track record and work very hard to maintain that..I went as far as offering James some kind of discount on his next purchase..Today via email it's been 2 years ..

Had in been that week of the show this would have been fixed right away BACK ..Then..Me personally when i buy an animal i sex it right away.No matter where it came from.

George Sampson
MorphMadness
 
Proof the the male cinny is indeed the one that was sold as a female is needed, of course. However, knowing George, I highly doubt he told the guy to pound salt when he was first made aware of this. 6-8 months go by and this guy shows up without the animal, and informs George of the error. Why didn't the buyer follow up via phone, e-mail, etc.?
 
Matt2979 said:
I'm still confused. You couldn't find the card; you had the card; the card said, "female?"?? How much did you pay for the snake? Have you sent a link of this thread to "Frank's partner" (still not sure what his/her name is). If they're partners, why didn't you have Frank take care of it?
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For the record Frank has nothing to do with this ,He's a great friend that gives me a hand at the NY show from time to time..



George Sampson
MorphMadness
 
Wow. What a bunch of nonsense. Sounds like someone is having financial issues and needs a quick buck really.

Two years is a long time. And you should always sex your animals or have a friend who knows how do it to check on the sex when you purchase an animal instead of depending on the seller. Regardless though, it's been two years. Give it up.
 
george sampson said:
For the record Frank has nothing to do with this ,He's a great friend that gives me a hand at the NY show from time to time..



George Sampson
MorphMadness
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Thanks for the clarification. That was the only name the OP offered so I wasn't sure exactly who is beef was really with. (Was hard to make out much of anything from the OP's statements.)
 
leaveittoweaver said:
Wow. What a bunch of nonsense. Sounds like someone is having financial issues and needs a quick buck really.

Two years is a long time. And you should always sex your animals or have a friend who knows how do it to check on the sex when you purchase an animal instead of depending on the seller. Regardless though, it's been two years. Give it up.
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Bullsnot.

Suppose your friend makes a mistake? Is this 'friend' going to go buy you one of the proper sex two years down the road?

And let's not forget, the buyer tried to make the seller aware within a few weeks. It's not like he crawled out of the woodwork two years after the sale. He tried a lot sooner.

I'm also pretty sure that in this particular instance, it's not up to YOU to make this decision. Your advice is fine, but these flat out declarations of what should be aren't yours to be giving.

The seller popped it, I'm assuming. Maybe it was probed. Anyone who has sold more than a handful of snakes has probably mis-sexed one or two. How many snakes have you sold? How many have you sexed? Ever been wrong?

Still need pics to verify that the snake in question is the snake that was sold.

Proper documentation and a picture record would have solved this 20 posts ago.

You too can take the silent route on your questionable expertise, but that will also serve nothing but the need for hyena's to feed. Too many hyenas in my opinion.
 
george sampson said:
James, this animal was purchased 2 years ago ..i popped it right in front of you. If there was an issue you as the customer should have gotten in touch with me in a timely fashion..

I do remember seeing you and your girlfriend and did speak to YOU maybe 6-8 months later at theNY show ..You did not have the animal then .You did mention something then but once again Time..
Then you contact me today out of the blue expecting me to do what? after 2 years time

I understand errors are made, after all we are human .If this was brought to my attention THEN you wouldn't be puttin this XXXX on here now
George Sampson
MorphMadness
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George said, "Errors are made," he's not admitting that he made a mistake.

Just wanted to make sure that part was read by those assuming that George is responsible for this mess. In order, IMO, for the buyer to have a valid claim (regardless of time) he needs to post a picture of the POPPED animal in a way that it's clearly seen not to be a Photoshopped picture and the animal can be easily identified.

This information hasn't been shown yet, and until it does...I, for one, find no reason to question George on his customer service skills.

2 years is a LONG time, I don't need to know how many animals the buyer has, that's not the point. The point is he's had the animal for TWO YEARS and in that two years, anything could have been done with the animal. :rolleyes: He doesn't seem to have put much effort into getting a solution...coming back months later without the animal and making the claim...:shrug01: Wasn't there even an email notification earlier to the seller informing him that the animal was mis-sexed??? Nothing???

Buyer, George states that he popped the animal in front of you...do you deny this?
 
Now its two year when I was on the phone with you sayed a year ago so now he is another year older you need to make up your mind is he a year or 2 years older and you never popped him infront of me and yeah and been trying to get this taken care of since then I even thought I was wrong so I had other breeders popit and they said it was a male
 
My head hurts just trying to read the OPs claim.

I have only known George less than a year and in fact the first time I personally met him was when he flew down to Daytona in August to check out the show and give me a hand at my table. Does that make him my partner?

George is a stand up guy, he even proved it to you by offering you a discount on your next purchase. I am sure he would have offered you a replacement female cinnamon if he had one but I am assuming he doesn't that's why he offered you the discount.

For anyone reading this thread don't let it detour you from making a purchase from George Sampson of Morph Madness. He produces amazing animals and is very easy to get ahold of.
 
Whatever!!! can you sit here and tell me that your buddy (frank) cant vouch that I was trying to get in touch with you. I even had the snake triple check so I wound'nt look like a a##. The only reason why I didnt bring him to white plains was I wasn't sure you were going to be there and I lost your card to contact you but you were notified a week if that, later at another show. If I knew you were doing a upcoming show I would of brought him to the show but like i said I always saw frank. There was a lack of communication from me and you but there was more communication between me and frank I did try to inform you as fast as i could. I just feel that you were aware and did me dirty like I said never saw you working you were never there when I was
 
yeah real nice jeremy a discount but another year goes by so you big shot breeders are allowed to screw over people that are trying to get in to the hobby is that what your saying please correct me why do you do the same thing
 
kaos said:
yeah real nice jeremy a discount but another year goes by so you big shot breeders are allowed to screw over people that are trying to get in to the hobby is that what your saying please correct me why do you do the same thing
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:shootfoot POST THE PICTURES...instead of trying to keep this BG thread at the top without verification of your claims.:NoNo:

Until you have pictures posted, you are just creating a he said-she said scenario to be fed indefinitely and possibly damage a honest businessman's possible future transactions.
 
wow your a rocket scientist a google search of a guy you didnt remember his name and could'nt find his card
GooGLE: mysteriest snake breeder at show
oh wait let me try he has a friend frank
still nothing isnt there another page for stupidity I am sorry but your jumping into something you dont have a clue but you didnt answer my question do you usally screw over new hobbiest?????
people are waiting to hear your remark?????? please in lighten me
 
thanks tom you must be a respectable breeder that stands behied your stuff I will look you up next time I am buying stuff thank you seriously
 
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