Neil,
Its is strange how feel that you are entitled to throw tantrems and cancel a guarantee at any moment. What does this persons attitude have to do with you shipping a tortoise when the customer wanted to wait? What does his attitude have to do with the customer not being happy and wanting his money back? If you are so positive that the tortoise is healthy and fine... Why not take it back and find a happy customer? I dont know what you could be labeled as other than "Bad Guy" after your last post.. There are way too many variables that might be going on with you at any one time to even ever consider making a purchase. O.K. I better like the animal, I better hope that it is well packed, hope that you did not feed it the night before shipping, hope it is the right sex, and pray it does not have URI. Otherwise I will be completely ridiculed by your superiority and I will be made to look like a fool on the BOI because you are a major player here. Or, I could possibly make up some other sickness and try and lie about the RI or URI so that way you dont think I'm scamming you??? I would say that I would rather head to Vegas than take those odds.
As far as the BOI goes, it has allowed Neil to act this way and justify at least to himself and his supporters out there. If a problem did arise, there would be a whole bandwagon of people jumping down anyones throat who dared go against Neil. It would take pages of debate to get a refund on a mis-sexed snake. Still no refund, and he said he will get around to it? Was it sipper tubes that Neil was selling? ;-) Like I've said before I Love the BOI and I look at it everyday and find it very entertaining. But one thing I've noticed nooone likes to admit the semi-mob mentality going on. That is what scares people away from the BOI and gives Neil the ability to act like any of the bad guys that get torn apart here. He is clearly a less than perfect shipper, remember the rabbit in the Burm. But noone found that too odd, although I found it horrible. Remember another fellow shipping without paperwork? He was Neils friend and since this was the case, he must of just made a mistake. But in no way should either of them be responsible for these mistakes and do nothing to correct them. I always see people wanting answers to question and really get heated over the need to start answering questions. I asked a few questions before and not 1 of the supporters for Steve or Neil ever answered my questions in that instance.
"What is the correct legal way to resolve a seller sending you an animal without paperwork. What should be done? What should the buyer do? What should the seller do?"
This is releveant here because I'm trying to show you how someone who is considered very respectful among this board can act and has acted for a long time. Due to the amount of friends he has here he continually can act this way and have people back him. Questions will remain unanswered and guarantess will be thrown out. Refunds will never reach their destination and the whole time noone is really worried about it.
Rob,
I thought maybe your name was brought up originally, because you seem to be the biggest supporter of Neil. I always see you jump to his defense, even when sometimes it is questionable. In your first post here you basically told the guy he was out of luck because he did not say he was unhappy (although he said he was not eating) and that he should have posted on one of the other threads. So although this guy definitely deserves a refund your initial response was that he does not. Also, teling him he shouldve placed this in a different thread, which is not true, because this a whole new bad guy experience. If you are going to help Webslave enforce the rules, it should be straight across the board and not just in Neils situation. Because Neil is your friend you saw it from his side and that was that. I think friends like that are what everyone needs, but on the public forum, you being a respected herper, could scare away people who want to put in their 2 cents. I truly believe that your animals are healthy and you have displayed plenty of knowledge here and are needed, but that is how I see it sometimes with you (and others) in relation to Neil.
Just "Do the Right Thing" Neil. Its not worth being labeled a bad guy, and I do think that if he was labeled such and no longer around on this board, that it would lose some entertainment value. Maybe I shouldve just slept in instead of posting here, haha.
Thanks, Tom Baker
