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One eyed albino boa, should I kill him?

Kill it, or keep as a non breeder/pet

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I am not claiming that vitamin A deficiency is the one and only source of various congenital problems in snakes. I just think vitamin A deficiency should go on the list of POSSIBLE causes that need testing.
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You can discard that one upfront. Vitamin A defficiency in animals that eat whole prey is very unlikely. The best source for vitamin A is the liver of the prey and there's plenty there. Even assuming that the dam is vitamin A defficient would not be likely as the first "symptom" is that they will not breed.

Regards.
 
The BoidSmith said:
You can discard that one upfront. Vitamin A defficiency in animals that eat whole prey is very unlikely.
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Unless there was an issue with their ability to metabolize it.

The thing is though, regardless of the specific mechanism that's causing the deformity, it is definitely found in a greater concentration in the Khal strain albinos than in other lines or the larger population. This pretty directly indicates a genetic cause on some level- be it a direct one related to the formation of the eyes during the incubation or a secondary one where the animals are predisposed towards an underlying problem that just manefests most visibly in the deformities.

It *could* be a vitamin A deficiency, but if it is, then it's a physiological one, not a product of diet or environment.
 
A zinc deficiency affects vitamin A metabolism.

Or some other vitamin/mineral deficiency could be involved. It's well known that breeding females of all species have greater needs than nonbreeders. A female could be on the right side of the borderline if not breeding but on the wrong side when producing young.
 
It's well known that breeding females of all species have greater needs than nonbreeders. A female could be on the right side of the borderline if not breeding but on the wrong side when producing young.
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But that holds true for both normal and albino animals, and therefore doesn't explain the different rate of birth defect between the two.

Henry
 
Ever see a one eyed non-albino boa constrictor?

Ever see a one eyed non-albino boa constrictor?

Please answer folks.

I haven't. If it was a vitamin deficiency it would be spread throughout the whole species.

Caden Chapman
 
Slithering Serpents said:
Ever see a one eyed non-albino boa constrictor?
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Admittedly a few. One eyed, no eyed and with eye deformities or issues... but far fewer both proprtionally and in flat numbers than I have seen or been informed (as in- seen advertised or photographed) of with similar problems in kahl strain albinos.
 
can we please kill this thread ,i cant be the only one tired of seeing it
no offense in any direction please but
my goodness i think it rans its course 10 pages ago
lol
:bandhead0 :bandhead0 :bandhead0 :bandhead0
all in good fun
Eric
 
oh i know its always on the top of the list is what i meant
lol
i just cant believe there is this much talk over it
 
Without "excessive" drama there wouldnt be any "forum" content
Regardless of the forum subject/context :rofl:
BUT !!!!! :rolleyes:
From where it started to where it is now ....... another thread could have been started and the "KILL Snake" thing would have long since faded into the archives.

So !! .......... :shrug01:

M/
 
Well, I still think he shouldn't kill it. Just rough it up a little bit to teach that one-eyed bastard a lesson. :ack2: :rofl: :rofl:






sorry :rofl: :rofl:
 
Two ball pythons and a one-eyed albino boa crawl into a bar. The bartender looks at the two balls and the big one-eyed snake and says..........
 
Oh-boy, just let it die :eek:

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OK this is BS !!
It shows I hit the thread yesterday 1-14-07
Not a freakin chance :NoNo:

I think the whole site is bugg'in out,pages are loading slow,redirecting to unwanted forum sections etc.

Anyone else haveing issues ?

M/
 
It's a poll. Someone must have voted. It will still show you as the last poster, but the date will update.
It's bothered me in the past too, but once explained :shrug01:
 
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This thread went from being a useful, adaptive, ongoing conversation about a topic that's fairly important to anyone looking to breed boa constrictors... to one post with one guy whining that he didn't like seeing it and all of that positive discussion is suddenly being characterized as "drama" and the morons crawl out of the woodwork to demand that the discussion stop?

Up until the idiots got here to cry about it, THIS was the kind of old school fauna thread that used to be a considerabale draw to the site. An ethical question dissected, the biology explained and examined, views expressed with conviction but without rancor... and then suddenly it's being trashed for providing something useful.

If some of you whiney fools don't like a discussion or don't understand the big words... just don't open the thread. You don't have to tank it with idiocy.
 
Seamus Haley said:
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This thread went from being a useful, adaptive, ongoing conversation about a topic that's fairly important to anyone looking to breed boa constrictors... to one post with one guy whining that he didn't like seeing it and all of that positive discussion is suddenly being characterized as "drama" and the morons crawl out of the woodwork to demand that the discussion stop?

Up until the idiots got here to cry about it, THIS was the kind of old school fauna thread that used to be a considerabale draw to the site. An ethical question dissected, the biology explained and examined, views expressed with conviction but without rancor... and then suddenly it's being trashed for providing something useful.

If some of you whiney fools don't like a discussion or don't understand the big words... just don't open the thread. You don't have to tank it with idiocy.
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I agree; this was definitely one of the better threads in a LONG time.
 
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