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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on Redtailboa.net
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 9:10 AM
To:
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Could you please send pictures? Thanks.
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: A message about your ad on Redtailboa.net
Bi Colored Hognose Snake Female
I don't know if you are interested but I have an adult 100% het for clown male from Josh Wolfe
and a normal adult female ball I would be willing to trade for your bi-colored hog.
Thanks
Brian
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http://redtailboa.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=1632
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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The first picture is the normal female and the last two are the 100% het for clown male.
Where did you get the bi-color hog from?
Thanks
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:32 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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How old are they? Length and such?
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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The female is about 42" and the male is about 3'. They were locking up last month so the female is possibly gravid. They are both proven breeders. The male is an 2004 and the female is 2000.
I'm not sure on weights.
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:57 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Do you have any papers on the het? Im sorry for all the questions, its routine. Oh and I got the bi colored hog from a man on Kingsnake.. Its been some months since I bought it and I went back to check my records to see what his name was but he has since then cancled his account. I would look back in my email records but the pc I used no longer works. Im on a new lap top and it has no record of my past emails before a few weeks ago. If you need any more pictures of the snake let me know. She is a very cute snake, very frisky, has never offered to bite but she sure bounces around a lot. Scared me the first time she did it cause she just sort of darted in random directions. I later found out that is some times common in hogs. She wont take food from you by hand, and I feed her frozen thawed pinkies. 2 at a time. I just put her in a plastic container, with two dethawed pinkies and close the lid on it. Then come back a few mins later to see them gone and her with a fat tummy hehehe.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:04 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Yes I do have paperwork on him. I purchased him from Grant Whitmer who purchased him from Josh Wolfe in 05. I will send the paperwork with him.
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:07 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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Alright sounds like a good deal to me then. I havent had a ball python for years hehe. Might be interesting to try raiseing some again. When can you ship? I hope you dont mind shipping first since you requested the trade thats how it usually goes. If for any reason you dont feel comfortable with this just let me know.I have a few refrences that could give me a thumbs up.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:10 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Who are the references? Gotta be cautious if you know what I mean!
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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No problem at all. There is Nate, the creater of Geckos Unlimited. Myke and Don from Mfezi. Brad Wolfe , the owner of Madcow Studios (my boss heh). Ranger off the redtailboa site. Me and him got some boas off a guy named Dan on there a year or so ago. He paied cash for his mine I traded geckos for them. I dont know how to contact the guy we got our snakes off of but Ranger might. Just remind ranger of the bubble gum boa. Ours all came from the same litter. I got 3 he got 1. Let me think.. who else.. hmm Oh, Jeff from
www.sgvreptiles.com . Any and all those people know me by Oukan or Sadistic Muffin (usual screen name) if you need any more let me know and I will try to come up with some more. n.n
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:29 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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How big is the hog?
What is your address?
Here is mine: Brian Bauserman
1669 Hyland St
Bayside CA, 95524
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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She is atlease a foot maybe over. Half grown already. Its hard to get her to streach out and stay still so I can measure her properly. Give her another year and she will be ready for breeding if fed right. She is in shed right now acctually and still eats while shedding. I fed her two pinkies last night.
My address is :
Oukan Jordan
520 11th st se
Cleveland, Tn 37311
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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Oh and my phone number is 423-790-5694
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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Sounds good... I can't ship until next Mon cause I have to order heat packs before I ship them.
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Alright I will be looking forward to getting them. Thanks.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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Oh ya my phone number is: 707-822-0247
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:19 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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Hey Oukan, the female that I have isn't the same female in the picture, It is her sister. My buddy had two females, sent me one of them and sent me the picture of the other. I thought it was the same snake but when I looked a little closer I realized it was a different snake. The female I am sending is the one that has been locking up with the 100% het clown male. Let me know what you think.
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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Thats alright. Honestly there isnt much difference between different normal ball pythons. So Im sure if it was her sister you sent a picture of and she is of breeding age then its still just as good to me as the one you sent a picture of. Your information about her was right, right?
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:23 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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She is breeding size and has locked up with the 100% het clown numerous times. I witnessed them personally locking up.
I should have the heat packs on Fri and will ship on Mon for Tues.
Thanks
Brian
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:51 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Well I got the heat packs today and I will ship out Mon. I will give you the tracking number when I have it.
Thanks again,
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
No problem, thank you. And dont forget the papers. A het just aint the same with out the papers hehe know what I mean?
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:51 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Don't worry they are already in the box waiting to go. I mean the papers not the snakes.lol
If you want to you can check out Grant Whitmers website LavenderAlbino.com. This is the guy I got the snake from and he has it going on. Check it out there are some awesome snakes on his site.
Brian
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 7:00 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Oh it is lowercase
www.lavenderalbino.com
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:39 AM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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I thought you said you got him from Josh Wolfe?
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:44 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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I got him from Grant Whitmer who purchased him personally from Josh Wolfe.
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:21 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Ah. I see.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:41 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
I have been out fishing all day and we had a big fish fry. I just got home about an hour ago and I am burnt. What do you do for fun?
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:57 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
I am an artist mainly. I love doing computer graphic art. Its also my job. I work for
www.myndflame.com and
www.madcow-studios.com I dont have a lot of time for many recreations, I have 2 daughters. But when I do get a chance to go do something I enjoy going out in nature and taking photographs. I have the perfect opertunity to do so cause I live very close to many nice places, like the Okoee river, and Applilachian Mountains. I am naturaly a computer nut lol I play world of warcraft when Im unable to go hikeing in my spare time.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 5:08 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
My wife is into photography and she takes some really nice pictures. I am the outdoor nut. I am either at the beach, in the mountains, at one of the many rivers, or doing something. I live directly in the middle of Humboldt County, where the giant redwoods grow. Well I will talk to you tomorrow.
Brian
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 5:20 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
So you do some of the art on those websites! That is pretty cool, my brother is really into computers and art. My buddy randy is really into world of warcraft.
See,ya
Brian
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:43 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Here is the fedex tracking number: 8641 0769 0483
They should be there tomorrow by 10:30am
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Thanks, I will send the little hog tomorrow as soon as my boyfriend wakes up.
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Hi. I got the snakes and they are looking great. I will be sending the little girl when my boyfriend wakes up in about 3 or 4 hours. He works night shift and has to work tomorrow or else I would make him take me now to the fedex place. I appreciate the balls. They are now adjusting in thier holding tanks for a little while and I will give them some water soon when I move them tomorrow.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
The female was looking like she was about to shed which is a good sign that she is gravid.
That het clown male is an awesome little snake. I hope you enjoy them. The het clown male will only eat rats. I tried feeding him mice dozens of times and he just doesn't like them.
I can't wait to see the little hog.
Thanks
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:11 AM
To: Brian Bauserman <
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I will make sure to give you the shipping number as soon as I get back home.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:23 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Thanks
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Hi Brian, the shipping number is 8620 7071 2032
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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Is it fedex?
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From: Oukan Jordan <
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Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:07 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Yep.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:08 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
You owe me a snake the one you sent has obviously been dead for a few days.
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Hi Brian, I got off the phone just now with you and called Fedex. They told me they are looking into the issue and will be contacting me back within 24 hours hopefully with a refund on the snake's worth. I hope this helps. If they do not I will personaly work with you to make sure you are satisfied. This is a horrible thing to have happen and Im honestly just as upset as you. Im afraid some times things dont always go as smoothly as they should. I hope that we can get this resolved. Talk to you soon, call any time.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Well, do you want to give me your female hog after she drops her clutch? Let me know what you think!
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:16 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh122/serpent_garden/2008_02160034.jpg
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:01 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Does fedex want the snake or are they going to come get it? Let me know if I need to do something!
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:40 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
I still havent heard from them I need to call them it looks like. I think they will come get the snake most likely. Along with the shipping matterials it came in.
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
On easter I threw out my back while cleaning before the family came over and Ive been bed ridden since then till just a couple days ago. I took some pictures last night of the hogs. My female still hasnt laied yet. But they did shed. Both of them at the same time lol. I will get you some pictures sent as soon as possible. It still hurts to bend over and I cant find my cable for the camera so till Im able to search for it I wont be able to load up any pictures. She is looking fat however. Hope we see something soon. Meanwhile Im going to call Fedex today and find out what is taking them so long. After this Im debaiting ever useing fedex again. This is a bunch of bull. What most likely happened with the snake was that they probably left her in the sun and shook her up too much. That would explain why she looked like she had been dead for a while, as you said. If she was shook up too much it might have caused so much head injury to kill her then leaving her in the sun would have spead up the decomposing process. It really makes me mad with how much a shipping company takes so little care in what they are paied to do. I paied over $60 to ship her the lease they could do is make sure she gets there safe.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:07 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
No problem, just let me know if I can do anything! It is a shame that any of this had to happen.
I wish things would just go as planned, but things don't always turn out the way we want it to.
Thanks for keeping in touch.
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
I just got off the phone with Fedex. They denied the claim. They told me that any live animals shipped are not garenteed despite the fact you have all those little words on the box, and despite the fact no one told me this, and also despite the fact that I didnt sign any paper that I understood this liability. Im seriously done with Fedex. Im never shipping through them again. Before I always shipped via USPS Priority mail and NEVER had any problems. The only reason why I shipped Fedex here reicently is cause people buying things from me perfered Fedex or UPS. Why? I have no idea. Heck I even have people asking me now to ship via Delta Dash. Why pay $80+ on shipping when the result is the same no matter who you ship through ? Still not insured, still not 100% fool proof. All shipping companies are the same to me atlease. Sorry for venting Im just a tad upset.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
I ship through Fed-Ex, UPS, or DHL. I personally would ship through DHL, they seem to have good service. I have had petty good luck with most of the shippers.
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:22 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Here is a little picture of them. The female is the one against the glass and rock, the mail is coiled up on the rock. You can see she is looking lumpy. I have a container with peat moss in there for her to get in when she lays as you can see as well. And they also have a hide away type fake log that she enjoys staying in a lot as well as a water bowl. Pretty simple set up as you can see. I take them out to feed them in a plastic container.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:25 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Do you know what their weights are? They look good! She looks like she is about to pop any day.
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:33 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
I have no idea, I really need to get me a scale. They are around 2ft or more long.
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:33 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Hey Brian do you still have the hognose girl? Karl my husband found out I was going to send the hognoses I have to you for your lose and refussed to let me do so unless I had proof the hognose girl I sent you is dead. He bought the snakes himself and thats why he is so hesitant. Also he doesnt know you so he doesnt trust your word like I do. So I need you to send that hognose to me on dry ice, via over night mail. Its the only way he will let me send anything to you when the time comes to ship. I hate to be a hassel but I have to compramize with him since I live with him and such.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
I still have it in the freezer. I know that it is hard to trust anybody these days, that is why I held on to it. Shipping it is going to cost me another $50, plus the cost of the dry ice. I can email a picture of it dead in my hand. Let me know if that works for you!
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:19 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Sure, just make sure you can tell its the snake. I mean like dethawed and one of each side and a close up of the head would be perfered. Thanks for understanding.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
I will get some pictures tomorrow and I will make sure you can tell it is the snake.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
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Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:18 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
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Here they are! I went fishing yesterday and didn't take them till late last night.
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Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:28 AM
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I tried sending all the pictures, but I guess it was too much info so I will send the other photos in the next email. I went fishing all day yesterday so I didn't take the pictures till late last night.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:33 AM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
I tried sending all the pictures and this mail delivery thing pops up saying I am sending too much.
I am tying again. I went fishing yesterday and didn't get home till late last night!
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:53 AM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
I did get the pictures. Im sad to say Im not very happy with them. Ive been talking to a friends of mine. Fellow breeders. And we have all agreed to the same thing. Matter fact the whole forum group at redtailboa all agrees to the same thing. That is defently not my snake. For one mine had markings on the head. No two heads on a snake is just alike, and the snake you sent me pictures of is not my snake. Mine had very distinct markings on the top of the head. And NO white under the head. Im sorry I cant believe you. This is apauling to me and I thought I could trust you. This really disapoints me cause I was willing to try to help you. I cried over my snake dieing. Cause it wasnt just an animal it was a part of my family. I just dont want to speak to you any more. Please dont bother me with this. I cant handle any more heart ache over this whole matter. Ive been so stressed out my back ended up getting a muscle spazm. Ive had to go to the dr to get it treated cause it didnt fix its self after a 2 or 3 days. This is just too much for me.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:17 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Here is a picture of the original snake and a picture of the same snake dead.
You are tripping out if you think it is a different snake. That really pisses me off. I send my snakes in good faith and then get a dead snake in return. Now you are telling me it is a different snake. I have dealt with tons of people and have good reputations with them.
I have dealt with Brian Barzyc from BHB, Casey Lazik, Brent Bumgartner, my buddy is good friends with Dave Barker. I can go on and on. I knew this was going to happen as soon as the dead snake showed up. At this point you have ripped me off for $400 and I was being nice about the whole situation. This is fucked up! Don't talk to me ever again, what that hell is that supposed to mean. Where am I going to get another dead bicolored hognose.
You need to deal with this!
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:25 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
You tell me that picture is suppose to fool me? Here is the real way to tell. This is the head of my snake and the head shot of the snake pictures you sent me. This is what tells me it is not my snake for sure.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:36 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
The marks on the head are right there they are faded out because the snake is dead. Take a closer look at those two heads and tell me you can't see the marks. Look really close and you can see them. Of course when the snake was alive they were vibrant. When the snake showed up dead I could smell it before I even opened the box and when I took it out it looked as if it was about to shed. At this point with all the accusations I am assuming you sent the snake dead and you planned on ripping me off the whole time.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:38 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Also look at the band count there are eight white bands and if you look at them they are faded out also.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:31 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Well Oukan I don't care if you have my signature from fedex (which you just admitted I sent it fedex)but you are going to feel really bad once I send this snake back to you because it is the same snake. If you are an adult you can send me a $400 money order to my address once you get the snake. I will send it tomorrow or let me know a day when you will be home.
The only person who is out anything is me, not you! I kept up my end of the bargain!
Sincerely,
Brian
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:35 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
You made the crazy accusation that I sent mine USPS as well and I said I have your signature to prove it. I didnt mean your signature from were you sent yours, I ment your signature from were you signed when you got my package . Seriously, even if you do send the snake, its still not mine, the pictures proved that.
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From: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:45 PM
To: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
I didn't accuse you of sending it usps all I said was if I sent mine usps then you sent yours usps because we both sent it priority overnight through fedex. I guess you are just a professional theif and you can live with that! Good luck in the reptile community! I just want what is mine. If you don't give me my money I am going down to file a lawsuit against you.
I have all emails recorded and receipts.
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From: Oukan Jordan <
[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:49 PM
To: Brian Bauserman <
[email protected]>
You can file a law suit if you wish. I dont care and I wont be threatened by you any more. This is rediculous and harassment. There is no garentee in shippment and I do not garentee my animals to arive live either. If you want to get forcefull with it then have at it big boy, my mother in law has 3 lawyers in the family who are fully aware of all the rules and regulations. And would gladly step up and defend me. And dont think for one second I would not take you up on that offer. If anything it would gain me some extra money from all this trouble you have caused me. You have tried to soil my name and constanty ordered me around and harassed me who do you think you are? Leave me alone and consider it a lose. It happens, get over it.
