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OukanJordan/Sadisticmuffin/Stephanie Hawkins BADGIRL

Oh and Fedex does not garentee shippments on live animals. Call and check yourself. No one garentees them other then Delta Dash. Which I would use if it wasnt for the small fact the closest Delta air port near me is an hour away.
 
I told you I was getting out of balls and I asked you if you had any other reptiles you wanted to give up. You told me that you had a Tremper giant, but you would have to ask your husband because it was his. Then you told me you had a pair of hognose snakes.
I asked about the male hog and you told me that wouldn't be fair to me. So I asked about the pair. You told me that I had to wait until your female dropped her eggs. I really wanted that bicolor for my hog collection so I made the deal of my het clown male and the female ball. The worth on those snakes is $250 for the adult het clown male,$75 for the adult female, and $80 for shipping. Which is around $400. I wanted to make the trade worth her while so I could get the snake I wanted.
 
hum707 said:
Here is her address:5** 11th St SE Cleveland TN, 37311
Nice enough to not show her whole address!
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Oh and please dont post my address here again, that is my home address not some buisness address. Are you trying to get people to come harass me or something? You wouldnt like it if I posted yours for all to see on the Redtailboa site. Have the same deicentcy to never do that again. There is a privecy act law you just broke there I hate to inform you.
 
hum707 said:
I told you I was getting out of balls and I asked you if you had any other reptiles you wanted to give up. You told me that you had a Tremper giant, but you would have to ask your husband because it was his. Then you told me you had a pair of hognose snakes.
I asked about the male hog and you told me that wouldn't be fair to me. So I asked about the pair. You told me that I had to wait until your female dropped her eggs. I really wanted that bicolor for my hog collection so I made the deal of my het clown male and the female ball. The worth on those snakes is $250 for the adult het clown male,$75 for the adult female, and $80 for shipping. Which is around $400. I wanted to make the trade worth her while so I could get the snake I wanted.
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You asked me what animals I Owned.. I thought you was making small talk. We had been trying to communicate for a while this way. Making small talk regularly was uncommon at the time. Once I named off my animals you started naming off what you WANTED. I think that is a little rude. I tried to be nice and tell you why I didnt want to send you these animals and you insisted I send something. After my husband found out I was considering parting with my hogs he got very angry at me cause he bought them for me himself. That is when he made me ask for you to send the snake that you claimed was dead back to me along with the rest of the forum.
 
hum707 said:
I told you I was getting out of balls and I asked you if you had any other reptiles you wanted to give up. You told me that you had a Tremper giant, but you would have to ask your husband because it was his. Then you told me you had a pair of hognose snakes.
I asked about the male hog and you told me that wouldn't be fair to me. So I asked about the pair. You told me that I had to wait until your female dropped her eggs. I really wanted that bicolor for my hog collection so I made the deal of my het clown male and the female ball. The worth on those snakes is $250 for the adult het clown male,$75 for the adult female, and $80 for shipping. Which is around $400. I wanted to make the trade worth her while so I could get the snake I wanted.
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No offense, but the shipping would not count in any deal. just the vaule of your snakes/bi colored hog.
 
SadisticMuffin said:
Oh and please dont post my address here again, that is my home address not some buisness address. Are you trying to get people to come harass me or something? You wouldnt like it if I posted yours for all to see on the Redtailboa site. Have the same deicentcy to never do that again. There is a privecy act law you just broke there I hate to inform you.
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I didn't post your whole address. Therefore I didn't actually break any law.
I admit it was a little shady though.
 
hum707 said:
I didn't post your whole address. Therefore I didn't actually break any law.
I admit it was a little shady though.
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You posted my phone number, my name and all but 2 numbers in my address. It doesnt take a genious to put all that together and find out where I live.
 
SadisticMuffin said:
You posted my phone number, my name and all but 2 numbers in my address. It doesnt take a genious to put all that together and find out where I live.
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Your name and phone number were in posts made by you here on fauna, therefore it is public information. The internet is not private.
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
Your name and phone number were in posts made by you here on fauna, therefore it is public information. The internet is not private.
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My address and phone number was not ment to be given out to anyone. I did not sign a release form for my information to be released to the public.
 
I did some Photoshop on his images to make the pattern on the snake easier to see. The first pic is the original head pic from the seller, second pic is head pic of dead snake from buyer, third is original full body pic from seller, last pic is full body pic of dead snake. It's obviously the same animal.
 

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I find that funny that you can honestly post some photoshopped photos and say with pride that it is the same snake. Give me a few seconds and I can turn a black hognose into the same snake too. All I got to do is zoom in, use the multiply brush and add markings were I want them.
 
SadisticMuffin said:
I would take pictures of the box he shipped his snakes in but I do not have it any longer. As soon as I recieved the snakes I threw the box out. I have a toddler and the last thing I need is her getting into it and tearing it appart, throwing news paper around.
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So its not ok for your toddler to play with harmless newspaper or a harmless cardboard box, but its perfectly ok that your toddler plays with packing tape? Packing tape that could have smothered or choked your child? You did mention on the RTB forum that your child was playing with the packing tape while you were unaware of it, right?

Sounds like an excuse to me.
 
I find that funny that you can honestly post some photoshopped photos and say with pride that it is the same snake. Give me a few seconds and I can turn a black hognose into the same snake too. All I got to do is zoom in, use the multiply brush and add markings were I want them.
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All I did was brighten his photos and increase the contrast. :shrug01:
 
critical bill said:
So its not ok for your toddler to play with harmless newspaper or a harmless cardboard box, but its perfectly ok that your toddler plays with packing tape? Packing tape that could have smothered or choked your child? You did mention on the RTB forum that your child was playing with the packing tape while you were unaware of it, right?

Sounds like an excuse to me.
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Packageing tape she rolled into a ball. I dont think my child is stupid enough to choke herself to death with tape.
 
KelliH said:
I did some Photoshop on his images to make the pattern on the snake easier to see. The first pic is the original head pic from the seller, second pic is head pic of dead snake from buyer, third is original full body pic from seller, last pic is full body pic of dead snake. It's obviously the same animal.
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Thanks for doing that for me!
 
BTW Stephanie, how do you explain the fact that he has supplied proof that his snakes were in fact shipped Fed Ex?
 
Seriously I feel like everyone is avoiding the questions that really matter and instead is poking daggers at me from every angle that doesnt matter. Just to keep from looking at the fact that I tried my best to satisfy this person, right from the get go.
 
SadisticMuffin said:
Seriously I feel like everyone is avoiding the questions that really matter and instead is poking daggers at me from every angle that doesnt matter. Just to keep from looking at the fact that I tried my best to satisfy this person, right from the get go.
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Maybe if you answer the question, it will go away and you can get back to what you think really matters? :shrug01:


Worth a shot.
 
KelliH said:
BTW Stephanie, how do you explain the fact that he has supplied proof that his snakes were in fact shipped Fed Ex?
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I can not garentee that they were or that they were not. I dont have the box, I dont have any papers to conferm this. I am willing to admit to that. But weither he sent his snakes to me via usps, fedex, ups, or santa clause doesnt really matter, considering my shipping is the one that is important at this time and not his shipping. I never once complained that he did a poor job at shipping. I found the snakes he shipped to be shipped just fine. So that is none the matter here.

What really needs to be discussed is the fact that continuously this man has badgered me, threatened me and ordered me around when I was willing to do whatever it took to satisfy him. I offered to ship the snakes he sent me back and I offered to pay him back. But he so boldly tried to tell me what I was going to give him and then threaten me with a law suite if I did not do as I was told.
 
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