OukanJordan/Sadisticmuffin/Stephanie Hawkins BADGIRL

[Andy'sReptiles]

ok, one last one, before bed.

You cant say something is going to come up, when you dont know it will.

death and taxes!
ring a bell? i'd say who ever coined the term, left that out, since anyone who wasn't able to think that far on their own, shouldn't.

 

[SadisticMuffin]

Thanks. I think I may have just thrown up a bit in my mouth. Your master suite must be charming.

Is the bathroom a quarantine room?

And this guy wants his snakes back? I wouldn't want them back. No way! I'd want my money...and I'd want it now.

I feel bad for Brian. Crappy deal!

Im really getting tired of you bashing me as a person. All you can contribute to this thread is slandering posts about how you think Im a bad mother, how my house is trash, and so forth. With out any proof. My house is a very nice house. It may not be as large as some people's homes but it is very clean, managed and taken care of. I bought this house cause it was in a good location, with good people around here. Cause there was a lot of property with it, a huge fenced in back yard, and a play ground across the street. Also cause it was close to the school. My house is a good house. And I wont listen to any more crud coming from your mouth about me as a person. If you have anything rude to say keep it to yourself please.

 

[Serafim]

Im really getting tired of you bashing me as a person. All you can contribute to this thread is slandering posts about how you think Im a bad mother, how my house is trash, and so forth. With out any proof. My house is a very nice house. It may not be as large as some people's homes but it is very clean, managed and taken care of. I bought this house cause it was in a good location, with good people around here. Cause there was a lot of property with it, a huge fenced in back yard, and a play ground across the street. Also cause it was close to the school. My house is a good house. And I wont listen to any more crud coming from your mouth about me as a person. If you have anything rude to say keep it to yourself please.

Well I Have been thinking the same thing he is saying. You have two small children. Do they share a room? You don't need to buy them things like shoes food etc. You are crazy to believe that any responsible adult would spend 300 dollars on a snake knowing they have bills due and its going to be tight. Nobody does that. Well except you. I have been in tight spots hell I lost my house after a major back injury. But I don't go out and spend money on snakes. That 300 is more than half of next months mortgage. I hope you understand why people are picking on you. You just don't get it.

 

[Andy'sReptiles]

oops, messed that up,

death and taxes.
i'd say who ever coined the term, left *bills* out, since anyone who wasn't able to think that far on their own, shouldn't.

 

[Serafim]

oops, messed that up,

death and taxes.
i'd say who ever coined the term, left *bills* out, since anyone who wasn't able to think that far on their own, shouldn't.

LOL good point.

 

[critical bill]

And I wont listen to any more crud coming from your mouth about me as a person. If you have anything rude to say keep it to yourself please.

Then don't listen, but its not going to stop me from posting my opinion.

Where is your quarantine room located? You've been doing this for 8 years so you should know the importance of quarantine. What are your procedures? I think Brian has the right to know if you are insisting to return his animals, animals that don't sound like they have been in proper quarantine at all.

Can you handle an excuse/reply? I mean your nocturnal because of Karly's schedule so it shouldn't be a problem for you. Plenty of time to think something up.

Here let me help. 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 living room, and 1 kitchen.

Where is your quarantine room located?

You are a seller. Customers have a right to know.

 

[SadisticMuffin]

Well I Have been thinking the same thing he is saying. You have two small children. Do they share a room? You don't need to buy them things like shoes food etc. You are crazy to believe that any responsible adult would spend 300 dollars on a snake knowing they have bills due and its going to be tight. Nobody does that. Well except you. I have been in tight spots hell I lost my house after a major back injury. But I don't go out and spend money on snakes. That 300 is more than half of next months mortgage. I hope you understand why people are picking on you. You just don't get it.

No people are picking on me cause they feel they have the right too. Cause they feel it is tollerated and they have nothing better to do then set here and laugh at someone.

No one ever even asked Brian why he would not take the money I offered or the snakes back as soon as I spoke to him on the phone. No one ever asked Brian why he did not reply to me, why he went fishing. If he was serious about all this he would have not kept putting me on hold, he would have delt with the issue and took back what he rightfully diserved if he really cared. But he didnt. He kept demanding me to do this and that. Things he didnt have any right to demand from me. But cause Im not the one that made the thread. And cause Im the one that messed up by getting a few facts wrong. Im the accused and not him.

Something is wrong with anyone who thinks, that no one is entitled to own anything expensive. And some how you accuse me of not taking care of my kids. Accusations that dont even apply to this forum. Accusasions that you do not have any proof of. The reason why Im not rushing into sending these snakes back to him is cause I am preventing my kids and Karl and myself from lacking anything we need.

Some how you dont get that. And you just keep demanding more and more and more. Snapping your fingers and ordering me around like Im some waitress in a bar that hasnt served you your food fast enough. Well guess what, the world doesnt work like that. This isnt your problem. Your not the person even envolved with me here. You have no right to demand anything out of me. I have already sent a message the other day to Brian via email telling him when I would send him his snakes and he did not reply with any sort of complaint . So thus you have no right to set here and accuse me of lieing, it is his place to tell me anything he feels he should tell me. Your just here to run your mouth at me.

 

[SadisticMuffin]

Then don't listen, but its not going to stop me from posting my opinion.

Where is your quarantine room located? You've been doing this for 8 years so you should know the importance of quarantine. What are your procedures? I think Brian has the right to know if you are insisting to return his animals, animals that don't sound like they have been in proper quarantine at all.

Can you handle an excuse/reply? I mean your nocturnal because of Karly's schedule so it shouldn't be a problem for you. Plenty of time to think something up.

Here let me help. 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 living room, and 1 kitchen.

Where is your quarantine room located?

You are a seller. Customers have a right to know.

I dont have a "room" for quarantine. I have a group of cages stacked up, away from all the others, in the kitchen. Only one other cage is in that room. And that is the hognose snakes I own. They are on the other side of the room, clear away from the quarantine cages. I do not handle them unless its time to feed them and/or take pictures. When I do handle any of my snakes, I wash my hands between handlings. Im not stupid. And I said Ive been shipping animals for 8 years. I didnt say Ive been shipping snakes for 8 years. Ive only reicently had snakes since 06. But despite that I do take good care of them. I order frozen thawed mice and rats from Big Cheese Rodents. I feed them weekly. They have regulated heat pads under the container's floors. That are regulated by thermostats. I am not stupid. I know how to care for these animals.

 

[Serafim]

I get it you Liar. You lied about everything in the transaction. You tarnished his name because you wanted to look good. I get you want to own animals you cannot afford to purchase. I understand.... Get that in your thick clouded little mind. You have to reason why you spent money you could not afford to... I want alot of things. If I was Brain I would demand money from you. You are lucky yo are dealing with someone who is tolerant. Not everyone is. We are not laughing at you. I pitty you. You are a slefish little liar who cannot accept she screwed someone over because she just had to have something..

 

[SadisticMuffin]

I get it you Liar. You lied about everything in the transaction. You tarnished his name because you wanted to look good. I get you want to own animals you cannot afford to purchase. I understand.... Get that in your thick clouded little mind. You have to reason why you spent money you could not afford to... I want alot of things. If I was Brain I would demand money from you. You are lucky yo are dealing with someone who is tolerant. Not everyone is. We are not laughing at you. I pitty you. You are a slefish little liar who cannot accept she screwed someone over because she just had to have something..

So far I dont see anyone screwing anyone over here but me. I didnt post this thread about him. He posted it about me. Im the breeder here, not him, its my reputation thats getting ruined. Even when I did post a thread on RTB it was asking for suggestions. I was not trying to ruin his name. I dont think I even posted his name till someone asked for it at the very end.

 

[DarksideBoas]

Stephanie, please oh please use the spell check before you post!

I would have to agree that I would want "cash" back instead of the pair o' pythons. Your setup of having cages and tanks in the master and kitchen of all places makes me cringe at the possible condition of your animals. I personally know of NOBODY that keeps herps in the kitchen. If anything, you've truly proven that you are NOT a "breeder" that anyone with any common sense would purchase an animal from. NEVER! send the man the 3 or 4 hundred (whatever) and be done. If you send him back his pair o pythons, I guarantee that this thread as well as your rep will continue the downward spiral. Herps are OBVIOUSLY not your forte, and I urge you to take up another hobby that you could possibly excel in. (NO, NO, NOT homeschooling ) I was thinking about maybe amway or needlepoint? Do us all a favor and deep six your remaining herps, so that they may not contaminate the existing gene pool.

 

[Serafim]

So far I dont see anyone screwing anyone over here but me. I didnt post this thread about him. He posted it about me. Im the breeder here, not him, its my reputation thats getting ruined. Even when I did post a thread on RTB it was asking for suggestions. I was not trying to ruin his name. I dont think I even posted his name till someone asked for it at the very end.

What ... You are freaking out of your mind Brian is the one who got screwed. You have thrown every excuse you could think of Why you are the victim. You will show up agian I on the BOI cause you just don't get it.

 

[critical bill]

No people are picking on me cause they feel they have the right too. Cause they feel it is tollerated and they have nothing better to do then set here and laugh at someone.

Picking on you? Sure....in my spare time I pull the wings off flies for kicks and burn ants with a magnifying glass.

Grow up. You live check to check, meal to meal. You have kids for christ sake. You don't belong being in business for yourself. Get a job and do this as a hobby. You sound so upside down in everything that if people didn't laugh they might actually cry. Is that what you want instead of the truth? Sympathy? Understanding? Compassion? Try feeding those three things to your kids.

GROW UP!

So where is your quarantine room located?



"When I pull the wings off of the fly, the fly never wonders why I did it"

 

[SadisticMuffin]

Stephanie, please oh please use the spell check before you post!

I would have to agree that I would want "cash" back instead of the pair o' pythons. Your setup of having cages and tanks in the master and kitchen of all places makes me cringe at the possible condition of your animals. I personally know of NOBODY that keeps herps in the kitchen. If anything, you've truly proven that you are NOT a "breeder" that anyone with any common sense would purchase an animal from. NEVER! send the man the 3 or 4 hundred (whatever) and be done. If you send him back his pair o pythons, I guarantee that this thread as well as your rep will continue the downward spiral. Herps are OBVIOUSLY not your forte, and I urge you to take up another hobby that you could possibly excel in. (NO, NO, NOT homeschooling ) I was thinking about maybe amway or needlepoint? Do us all a favor and deep six your remaining herps, so that they may not contaminate the existing gene pool.

So what your saying. Is cause I have some snakes. In my kitchen, and my bedroom. I am a horrible pet owner? When most people I know do this very thing as well. Despite were you keep a snake, if it is taken care of properly it will not be an issue. Weither I kept them in a room all to thier own, or in my living room. It does not matter as long as I care for them properly. Forgive me for not having a huge facility were they can have thier own place the size of a house. Forgive me for not being rich off my ass. Yes I shouldnt own any reptile cause Im not rich. Look, I feed and house my snakes properly. What you have just said makes no sense at all. Its just stupid.

 

[Serafim]

So what your saying. Is cause I have some snakes. In my kitchen, and my bedroom. I am a horrible pet owner? When most people I know do this very thing as well. Despite were you keep a snake, if it is taken care of properly it will not be an issue. Weither I kept them in a room all to thier own, or in my living room. It does not matter as long as I care for them properly. Forgive me for not having a huge facility were they can have thier own place the size of a house. Forgive me for not being rich off my ass. Yes I shouldnt own any reptile cause Im not rich. Look, I feed and house my snakes properly. What you have just said makes no sense at all. Its just stupid.

Thats where you are wrong again... It makes perfect sense. You cannot afford to pay for shipping for a deal gone wrong. But you have the funds to buy another snake. Where is that one kept in the same kitchen as the other established collection. Nobody had to try and make you look bad.. You did that on your own. gain some knowledge pay the man and move on.

 

[critical bill]

I dont have a "room" for quarantine. I have a group of cages stacked up, away from all the others, in the kitchen.

That is not quarantine. Anyone here will tell you that.

I'm not sure how many people would consider buying anything from you now, if your reputation just wasn't enough to deter them.

Your goose is cooked. Maybe its time get a real job.

 

[SadisticMuffin]

No you know what, Im done with this. Ive explained myself till Im blue in the face. No matter what I say, only a small hand full are willing to agree with me, or admit that what I say is fair. Or even listen for that matter. The BOI as stated by many others I know. Has gone down hill. Its no longer important. And as many have told me, they dont hold a grain of slat to any of the things posted here. So with that said, I am done. I am not doing the deal with you guys, I am handling it with Brian. Ive emailed him already atlease 2 days ago with what I would be able to do and he has not responded much. He did not complain with when I could send them so I will take it that he is ok with it. What you guys think does not matter to me. Good bye and good luck.

 

[Serafim]

So what your saying. Is cause I have some snakes. In my kitchen, and my bedroom. I am a horrible pet owner? When most people I know do this very thing as well. Despite were you keep a snake, if it is taken care of properly it will not be an issue. Weither I kept them in a room all to thier own, or in my living room. It does not matter as long as I care for them properly. Forgive me for not having a huge facility were they can have thier own place the size of a house. Forgive me for not being rich off my ass. Yes I shouldnt own any reptile cause Im not rich. Look, I feed and house my snakes properly. What you have just said makes no sense at all. Its just stupid.

Need we remind you a snake died because of your shipping methods. You are so experienced you cannot even recall if that animal shed before leaving your kitchen. I check my snakes daily. I know when they have shed. Most people would know. Point is move on because you are not willing to accept that you can learn something. Thats what is pissing everyone off.

 

[LadyOhh]

Muffin,

I have kept out of this for long enough, and I just want to say this.

It's not about your house, your family, your day to day doings.

Its about your NOT taking responsibility and using your house, your family, and your day to day doings as EXCUSES for not doing what needs to be done.

We all have bills. We all have responsibilities.
But we plan for them accordingly, including business transactions if you are a RESPONSIBLE breeder/herper.

You are not being responsible.

That is the bottom line.

Do what is right.

 

[critical bill]

So what your saying. Is cause I have some snakes. In my kitchen, and my bedroom. I am a horrible pet owner? When most people I know do this very thing as well.

That's right! You are not alone! There are plenty of other flunky moms out there sitting on their fat behinds all night and sleeping all day and turning their homes into a menagerie. You might be their queen!