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Bad Guy PAUL EDWARDS- [email protected]

So, Kyle and Santo are being reffered to as "young guys" I am still confused as to what the buyers age has to with delivering a quality product and it being on time? What age is young? I'm 30 years old..i'm sure I'm younger than a lot of people in this business...does that make it ok to send me a cage about 15 weeks later than I was told I would have it.

Paul said "I got what I paid for"...really? On Feb 7th 2009 I told him i wanted an incubator
24"x30"x48". He said no problem, I paid him via paypal and he said it would be done in 4-6 weeks. What I got was an incubator 32"x27"48" (I just measured it) delivered in 19 weeks....does anyone else think I got what I paid for?

It barely fit though my doors into my snake room! I didn't even bother to email Paul regarding it because I already established he's a lousy business man, and I didn't think it would do me any good. Obvisouly it wouldn't have from what we've seen in this thread.

According to him, its ok because his "intentions" were to give me what I asked for....lol Maybe he should have actually give the buyer what they ask for.
 
A direct quote from his add on the top of the "Cages" section on Kinsnake Classifieds..

"We are a custom cage building company utilizing this revolutionary material exclusively. We can build anything you like, everything is built to order so we can build it EXACTLY the way YOU want it! We build all kinds of cages, racks and incubators, so please do not hesitate to contact us for something special or just to get a quote. "


If that was true...this thread wouldn't be here
 
Paul Edwards said:
There was nothing said or written that if I didn't get the product to him by a certain time then he was entitled to a refund. His argument wouldn't stand up in a court of law.
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In fact, you are wrong. The Uniform Commercial Code governs the sale of goods in every state except Louisiana. If terms are not specified, they are deemed to be whatever is commercially reasonable, and in fact the court will suppy a reasonable answer to everything except quantity.

Here is the UCC take on nondelivery:

U.C.C. - ARTICLE 2 - SALES
..PART 7. REMEDIES

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§ 2-713. Buyer's Damages for Non-delivery or Repudiation.
(1) Subject to the provisions of this Article with respect to proof of market price (Section 2-723), the measure of damages for non-delivery or repudiation by the seller is the difference between the market price at the time when the buyer learned of the breach and the contract price together with any incidental and consequential damages provided in this Article (Section 2-715), but less expenses saved in consequence of the seller's breach.

Paul Edwards said:
I am a licensed thearaputic foster father. My foster son, when he turned 18 last September opted out of the program. he had been with me for 2 1/2 years. It didn't take anywhere near that $1000 to have him here. In fact, he worked at a restaurant and ate there a lot.
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That money was given for the child and should have been spent on the child. What exactly happened to all the money you didn't spend on your foster son?
 
Paul , I am a 45 year old man . I'm glad to know someone thinks that makes me a young guy. Sandro is also in his 40's. I do get pretty pissed off though , huh?
I posted this a day BEFORE our conversation, check the date EINSTEIN. I don't appreciate you calling me a liar. I haven't EVER lied to you.The post I was speaking of has been saved on my desktop, ready to go!
Also , we never agreed on an amount, but $200 is a good start. Now I'll wait and see.
 
we go again. Mr. Edwards likes to stretch the facts to suit his point of view. Rob Tudehope is the “good friend” from Sioux City, Iowa that Mr. Edwards speaks of. Perhaps he would like to come on here and set the story straight. Rob, in a couple of conversations, was extolling the virtues of the PVC plastic and suggesting I should try it. I finally took his advice and located the material and began working with it for my own caging. I have been building my own caging for a very long time. Hundreds of people have visited my facility and could verify I have always wanted the best cages. As far as Rob, “never getting a dime,” I built him a number of cages in barter for animals. No one else has ever got that deal.
It should be obvious to everyone why we refused to allow him a franchise. He does not have the ability to reach our quality standards. His customer service sucks, and he is a thief.
As far as Habitat Systems being expensive, yes we are. Do you realize what it takes to run a business? From product liability insurance, work comp., rent, business insurance, taxes, etc. the list is endless. Mr. Edwards is probably working out of his garage. Sooner or later the city will catch him again. Are you covered if his incubator screws up? No? That is an example of product liability insurance. With Habitat you are covered. It costs money to have that protection. You can still sue him, but he has nothing as he continues to state.
What an excellent foster parent. Passing along great skills to the kids. How to go to court for example. How many divorces Mr. Edwards? Perhaps the child services should read these posts.
I noticed he was making promises to pay everyone. No mention of his debt to Habitat Systems. Not only stealing ideas, also stealing money. This debt is at least two years old so don’t expect to see any money real soon if he owes it to you. I guarantee you Mr. Edwards, if we take you to court, you will lose. It is called documentation.
Sorry for the long rant. I couldn’t help it.
Tom Weidner
 
Tom living in good post! I also think Paul has to know right from wrong. I remember him being in the insurance business once. In that business if you take someone`s money you go to prison.
Paul we have met a few times a few years back. The first time I met you was at a show in Omaha years ago. I believe you were sharing a table with your friend at the time Steve Bostwick. I was also at a presentation you did at the Midwest Herp. Symposium in Iowa. I believe you were living in Charleston then. Plus seeing you at Tom home many times.
 
Tom Weidner said:
I have been building my own caging for a very long time. Hundreds of people have visited my facility and could verify I have always wanted the best cages.
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I can't vouch for when Tom started building cages. I can only say that when I met him in 1970, he had already built himself the best cages in central Iowa. I was in awe when I saw them. The only difference between then and now is that now his cages are world class. Tom is the tops, both as a cage builder and a person.

Paul Hollander
 
Wow Paul, really great quality on your products. :ack2:


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=22&de=701265

I have two enclosures built by Paul Edwards that I'm selling at a blowout price. I want to make room in my barn and need to get rid of them.

I spent about $2k, not including freight, a piece for these and they're only 6 months old. They were designed to have a nesting area for dwarf monitors but do not work for this application. There's about an 1/8" gap between the nest box and floor bottom which you can see in the pictures. Just enough for a dwarf monitor to escape as I learned the hard way.

The PVC used makes them very light. The downside is the way in which the wheels are secured does not allow them to hold much weight. I use 2" x 4" blocks to support them once the nest boxes are full of substrate. As you can the wheels have collapsed.

These work well for bearded dragons and medium/large uros, including the nest boxes. They will work for dwarf monitors and geckos as long as the nest box is not used.

The entire rack stands 6' 9" and is 18" wide. Each of the three levels is 4' x 18" and contains 2 ceramic fixtures plus a fixture for a UVB tube light. The nest boxes are 28" x 19".

I'm blowing these out at $500 each which will include shipping. Feel free to make an offer if you want both. I want to get them out of my barn ASAP. Thanks.
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So it appears that not only does Paul screw people over by selling them crappy enclosures, he also does the bait and switch with animals.

Hmm. The more I look into your rep, the more I am deciding to never deal with you.
 
I can't really comment on any of the issues with Mr. Edwards and Habitat Systems. That seems like issues between past friends.

HOWEVA--

I can wonder and ask if anyone has been refunded any monies from Mr. Edwards yet?
 
SPJ said:
Wow Paul, really great quality on your products. :ack2:


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=22&de=701265
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I'm glad that I found this thread. The above ad is mine. I ordered these cages on 11/1/08 and received them on 3/26/09. They were supposed to be done by the middle of January.

Paul kept recommending changes to the design as he was building the enclosures. He charged me for these changes but at the time I thought that he was being innovative and just trying to come up with a solid product. I began to realize that my money wasn't only funding my project. That's why it took so long, he didn't have the cash flow to get it done even though I paid him in full plus some extra. Every week I received the same "it will be done next week response but I need an extra $20."

I'm a fairly patient guy and never lost my cool with Paul until the enclosures arrived. They are flimsy, poorly constructed, pieces of junk. I rolled them across my cement barn floor and the wheels broke off as can be seen in the pictures. The way they're secured to the cage is commical. Now my new $2k cage is sitting on 2 x 4's for support. Once any nesting material is put into the nesting box, the box begins to warp. I told Paul my #1 concern was the nest box. There could be absolutaly no gap between the cage bottom and nest box. He assured me that his design prevented this from ever being of concern. Well, nesting materials caused the poorly constructed nesting box to warp and I had several rare Varanus Gilleni escape. Fortunately. I found all of them after about a week.

I closed off the nesting boxes and just used the main enclosures for hatchling raise up cages. The doors began to warp and became difficult to open and close. Finally, I bailed on these enclosures and moved everything back to their original enclosures.

The poor craftmanship and lack of thought that goes into these is really amazing. As an example. Each level, of my three level enclosures, had four power cords for different light and heat sources. Each full rack has 12 cords. All of the power cords were cut to a different size! There was no single place to put a power strip. Some cords wouldn't reach the top of the enclosure, some wouldn't reach the bottom, and some wouldn't even reach the middle. I finally placed the power outlet behind the rack and had to use extension cords for the electrical cords that were cut too short.

I can go on and on about this enclosure but there's no point. It's now for sale and I'm very honest with perspective buyers. Basically, I'm looking to get compensated for freight. I just want the racks out of my barn or they're heading for the dumpster.

Almost forgot to mention; Paul promised to correct all of these issues in his last e-mail to me. I agreed to take him up on his offer. I've never heard from him again. I give people the benefit of the doubt and man was I burned on this one. Sorry Paul, but you need to go away. This gig isn't working for you.
 
3240 said:
I'm glad that I found this thread. The above ad is mine. I ordered these cages on 11/1/08 and received them on 3/26/09. They were supposed to be done by the middle of January.

Paul kept recommending changes to the design as he was building the enclosures. He charged me for these changes but at the time I thought that he was being innovative and just trying to come up with a solid product. I began to realize that my money wasn't only funding my project. That's why it took so long, he didn't have the cash flow to get it done even though I paid him in full plus some extra. Every week I received the same "it will be done next week response but I need an extra $20."

I'm a fairly patient guy and never lost my cool with Paul until the enclosures arrived. They are flimsy, poorly constructed, pieces of junk. I rolled them across my cement barn floor and the wheels broke off as can be seen in the pictures. The way they're secured to the cage is commical. Now my new $2k cage is sitting on 2 x 4's for support. Once any nesting material is put into the nesting box, the box begins to warp. I told Paul my #1 concern was the nest box. There could be absolutaly no gap between the cage bottom and nest box. He assured me that his design prevented this from ever being of concern. Well, nesting materials caused the poorly constructed nesting box to warp and I had several rare Varanus Gilleni escape. Fortunately. I found all of them after about a week.

I closed off the nesting boxes and just used the main enclosures for hatchling raise up cages. The doors began to warp and became difficult to open and close. Finally, I bailed on these enclosures and moved everything back to their original enclosures.

The poor craftmanship and lack of thought that goes into these is really amazing. As an example. Each level, of my three level enclosures, had four power cords for different light and heat sources. Each full rack has 12 cords. All of the power cords were cut to a different size! There was no single place to put a power strip. Some cords wouldn't reach the top of the enclosure, some wouldn't reach the bottom, and some wouldn't even reach the middle. I finally placed the power outlet behind the rack and had to use extension cords for the electrical cords that were cut too short.

I can go on and on about this enclosure but there's no point. It's now for sale and I'm very honest with perspective buyers. Basically, I'm looking to get compensated for freight. I just want the racks out of my barn or they're heading for the dumpster.

Almost forgot to mention; Paul promised to correct all of these issues in his last e-mail to me. I agreed to take him up on his offer. I've never heard from him again. I give people the benefit of the doubt and man was I burned on this one. Sorry Paul, but you need to go away. This gig isn't working for you.
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That's truly a travesty to the hobby.

This guy could have bought a car with that money--or wiped his dog's butt with it for that matter.

I'm really sorry to hear of this and think people should be sure to spread the word.
 
I guess this means there has been no refunds to buyers who are out lots of money.

It also seems that the manufacturer, Paul Edwards, doesn't address this issues.

I just told someone about this thread who was buying cages and shopping on KS. He's ordering from Boaphile.
 
Well, after some time..my incubator is not holding the same temps from top to bottom. I have roughly a 4 degree difference between the two. Lucking its only leopard gecko eggs, so they'll be fine. I guess I'll have to add some sort of heat panel to the bottom to even it out. Its not worth emailing paul, because we all know nothing will be done.

Is there a way to let KS know about this guy, so maybe they will ban him from selling there? That would certainly benefit everyone in the reptile world.
 
His "son" is pushing these products on my forum. A member found this thread and I have locked all the threads up now. So glad this was found before a member over there was taken for a ride.
 
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