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pied markers for dummies

Papa Wyrm

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Hello all, I knew i should never have looked on the bp forums in the classifieds. I did good for 4 months... now i'm in the market for a python, and if my track record is any indication, several BP's.

That said, i've seen several posts on pied markers on poss het pied crosses. Would a couple of you veteran herpers be so kind as to post some pics and explain to me in no uncertain terms how to identify pied markers?

As a side note, how accurate are these markers?
 
Just so you know, some het pieds have no markers at all. Best advise I can give you is trust the person you are buying from.
 
brd7666 said:
Just so you know, some het pieds have no markers at all. Best advise I can give you is trust the person you are buying from.
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Some hets have no markers, and some snakes show typical het pied markers, but are NOT het pieds. The 2nd best marker you can get is a photo ID from the breeder. The BEST marker is to get it from a trustworthy breeder. Good luck, but beware some "deals" that you will come across in your search!!
 
As always, thanks for the advice i'll definately beware of the "deals" i've had those experiences. anyone have some pics and an explanation so i at least know what i'm lookin at when i see the posts? of the markers i mean lol pie bald snakes seem to speak for themselves!
 
Hey Jeremy,

I just snapped these "marker pics" on my gravid female. Hope this helps you to see what they look like. Just don't depend solely on them!

Now, I gotta go back and clean-up at least 4 tubs that snakes have already knocked over their water bowls. (I JUST washed and refilled them this morning!! Almost as bad as pooping as soon as you change the substrate! :rofl:)
 

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just do not take the markers as a definate genetic. good luck in your search. Matt i knowwhat your talking about with the water that drives me nuts, that is a daily thing with my mojave.
 
Got Em MwWaAhHHH

Well I made the leap...like yoda said ..do or do not..no try..
I went for a .1 100%het pied, and a .1 spider. got em today, the spider munched a rat already. That was the COOLEST thing i've ever seen. That thing snatched that rat like it'd never eatin b4. 35 and i'm wringing my hands like a 6 year old on christmas day lol. The het didn't wanna eat, but from what i've read they need to relax from moving stress. here's some pics, het first 3 then the spider. I hve a .1 bumble bee poss het and a .1 pin coming as soon as it cools off a bit. I knew i never shoulda looked at snakes LOL:D
 

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Papa Wyrm said:
like separate containers quarantine?
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You should have any new arrivals quarantined away from the rest of your colony. This should be an entirely different room so that if they do have anything at all, you won't subject your healthy animals to it. My minimum quarantine is 90 days. If anything even seems like it MIGHT be wrong, they stay in there much longer.
 
thank you Susan.
So how long does it take em to digest a rat, and is there sort of a guidline to go by as far as feeder size? i've heard like 10% of its weight and 20% of its weight...
 
Papa Wyrm said:
thank you Susan.
So how long does it take em to digest a rat, and is there sort of a guidline to go by as far as feeder size? i've heard like 10% of its weight and 20% of its weight...
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Rat digestion varies, but they can usually be picked up after 24 hours (my minimum) without incident.

Best guideline for feeder size is no bigger around than the widest part of the snake's midsection.


(cool snakes! DO quarantine! Mites and a lot of other "nasties" find their way into collections when quarantine procedures are not established and faithfully followed.

Good luck!:thumbsup:
 
quarantine won't be tough, as these two are my collection lol, but i will definitely follow your suggestions as my collection grows. i can't wait to see my bumble bee!!
 
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