Tere Salazar
Just Me
As many of you know, last Saturday (4/23) Mitch Triana of Platinum Dragons had promised to return Apollo, the dragon in the doctored pictures on the "Problem with Platinum Dragons" thread, to me, Apollo's original owner. After I posted last Sunday that I did NOT support Mitch, I realized that I probably should have waited to post until after Apollo had been safely returned to me. Hindsight is 20/20!
On Sunday, I began scouring all the classifieds, as well as Reptibid, looking for any dragon that remotely resembled Apollo. I came across an auction on Reptibid that not only resembled Apollo, it WAS Apollo. Here is the link:
http://www.reptileauction.com/cgi-b...PCLOSED=a_lizard_beardeddragons1114638407.dat
I noted that the user name was Mayg, obviously another of Mitch's alias. I did just as Mitch Triana (if that even is his real name) is known for doing, and came up with an alias and a plan to buy Apollo back. My plan involved using a friend's Paypal account (with their permission) and shipping address (also with their permission), so that Mayg (Mitch) would not know I was involved.
On this auction in the Q&A section, I asked if the seller took Paypal, because I read on the "Bad Guy Report" on Reptibid that Mitch was declared to be a fraud by Paypal, and was not allowed to have a Paypal account. Mayg replied back asking me to email them at [email protected] for the confirmed Paypal account. I did just that. To my surprise, the confirmed Paypal account was [email protected] (if I was paying by credit card) or [email protected] (if I was paying Paypal to Paypal).
The reserve on this auction was $200. Knowing that I really didn't even have $200 to spend, I chose to wait until the last minute of the auction to place my bid. Because the bid amount is automatically filled in with the next bid available (which was $170), and I did not wait for the entire page to load before hitting the "Place Bid" button, I only bid $170. I tried to go back and up my bid to $200, but the auction was already closed.
I immediately emailed Mayg (Mitch) at the email address listed on the auction and explained what had happened, asking if I could pay the $200 reserve plus shipping. Because I got no reply, I emailed again asking how much to pay into Paypal. I received one reply stating that Mayg had decided to keep the dragon, that a mate had been purchased for him. I also received a second reply stating that the babies (I'm assuming this was referring to the babies that were also listed on Reptibid by Mayg) were $55, plus $45 shipping. I replied that I was interested in the big male (Apollo), not the babies, and asked if Mayg was sure she wouldn't sell him to me. I received another reply that yes, I could buy them both (Apollo and a baby) for $255, shipped. After a couple more small, unimportant communications between Mayg and I, I paid $255 to the [email protected] account. I soon thereafter received an email from Paypal stating that Shannon Davis (the "S" of JnS Dragons) had denied my payment. Shortly after that, I received another email from Mayg stating that I had paid the wrong account, that my payment had been denied, and to please pay the [email protected] account. I checked my Paypal account to make sure the money had been returned, and then paid $255 to the correct account.
I received yet another email from Mayg requesting that I confirm my shipping address, which I did...using, of course, my alias' address...not my true home of Tucson, Arizona. This morning, I checked my alias' email and found yet another email from Mayg stating that "her" girlfriend (I guess now Mitch has decided not to be heterosexual) had changed her mind about selling Apollo, and that "you know how us women are". The email further stated that my Paypal account had been refunded $200 (for Apollo). I'm assuming that Mayg thinks I still want the baby...who knows. Anyway, I emailed Mayg that I wasn't interested in the baby and asked why my Paypal account had not been refunded as stated. I have yet to receive a reply from Mayg. I did already file a complaint with Paypal, and they are investigating.
As it stands at this moment, Mitch has Apollo AND my $255.
I do have all the documentation to support my post. If anyone is interested in seeing individual documentation, please PM me.
Now, I say that I was quite surprised to find that the confirmed Paypal address was jnsdragons. What surprised me about that was the fact that Mitch has become so complacent with lying and scamming, that he thought noone would catch on. I guess that he forgot that during our conversation last Saturday, he informed me that he and JNS were "good friends" and that he had asked JNS to contact David Love to find out who it was that had information on the previous "Platinum Dragons" thread that was scared to speak out. David Love responded by giving JNS my name, not knowing that they may be involved. I DO NOT blame David Love, in any way, shape or form. He had absolutely NO way of knowing that JNS was in on the whole thing with Mitch.
Now, how do I know that Mitch isn't just using JNS' name? Because he wouldn't be telling people people to pay money into a Paypal account if he had no way of getting that money out.
Several other things have been discovered that connect Platinum Dragons and JNS. I personally feel each person who has any information or proof of the connection will be happy to come on Fauna and state what happened in their particular case.
Oh, and Mitch or whatever you are calling yourself today, at least feed Apollo. In the pictures you posted of him on Reptibid, he appeared skinny and miserable...not the fat and happy Apollo that I shipped to you. Once again, you are caught in another lie...you said you were going to give him a good home...that includes FEEDING him!
On Sunday, I began scouring all the classifieds, as well as Reptibid, looking for any dragon that remotely resembled Apollo. I came across an auction on Reptibid that not only resembled Apollo, it WAS Apollo. Here is the link:
http://www.reptileauction.com/cgi-b...PCLOSED=a_lizard_beardeddragons1114638407.dat
I noted that the user name was Mayg, obviously another of Mitch's alias. I did just as Mitch Triana (if that even is his real name) is known for doing, and came up with an alias and a plan to buy Apollo back. My plan involved using a friend's Paypal account (with their permission) and shipping address (also with their permission), so that Mayg (Mitch) would not know I was involved.
On this auction in the Q&A section, I asked if the seller took Paypal, because I read on the "Bad Guy Report" on Reptibid that Mitch was declared to be a fraud by Paypal, and was not allowed to have a Paypal account. Mayg replied back asking me to email them at [email protected] for the confirmed Paypal account. I did just that. To my surprise, the confirmed Paypal account was [email protected] (if I was paying by credit card) or [email protected] (if I was paying Paypal to Paypal).
The reserve on this auction was $200. Knowing that I really didn't even have $200 to spend, I chose to wait until the last minute of the auction to place my bid. Because the bid amount is automatically filled in with the next bid available (which was $170), and I did not wait for the entire page to load before hitting the "Place Bid" button, I only bid $170. I tried to go back and up my bid to $200, but the auction was already closed.
I immediately emailed Mayg (Mitch) at the email address listed on the auction and explained what had happened, asking if I could pay the $200 reserve plus shipping. Because I got no reply, I emailed again asking how much to pay into Paypal. I received one reply stating that Mayg had decided to keep the dragon, that a mate had been purchased for him. I also received a second reply stating that the babies (I'm assuming this was referring to the babies that were also listed on Reptibid by Mayg) were $55, plus $45 shipping. I replied that I was interested in the big male (Apollo), not the babies, and asked if Mayg was sure she wouldn't sell him to me. I received another reply that yes, I could buy them both (Apollo and a baby) for $255, shipped. After a couple more small, unimportant communications between Mayg and I, I paid $255 to the [email protected] account. I soon thereafter received an email from Paypal stating that Shannon Davis (the "S" of JnS Dragons) had denied my payment. Shortly after that, I received another email from Mayg stating that I had paid the wrong account, that my payment had been denied, and to please pay the [email protected] account. I checked my Paypal account to make sure the money had been returned, and then paid $255 to the correct account.
I received yet another email from Mayg requesting that I confirm my shipping address, which I did...using, of course, my alias' address...not my true home of Tucson, Arizona. This morning, I checked my alias' email and found yet another email from Mayg stating that "her" girlfriend (I guess now Mitch has decided not to be heterosexual) had changed her mind about selling Apollo, and that "you know how us women are". The email further stated that my Paypal account had been refunded $200 (for Apollo). I'm assuming that Mayg thinks I still want the baby...who knows. Anyway, I emailed Mayg that I wasn't interested in the baby and asked why my Paypal account had not been refunded as stated. I have yet to receive a reply from Mayg. I did already file a complaint with Paypal, and they are investigating.
As it stands at this moment, Mitch has Apollo AND my $255.
I do have all the documentation to support my post. If anyone is interested in seeing individual documentation, please PM me.
Now, I say that I was quite surprised to find that the confirmed Paypal address was jnsdragons. What surprised me about that was the fact that Mitch has become so complacent with lying and scamming, that he thought noone would catch on. I guess that he forgot that during our conversation last Saturday, he informed me that he and JNS were "good friends" and that he had asked JNS to contact David Love to find out who it was that had information on the previous "Platinum Dragons" thread that was scared to speak out. David Love responded by giving JNS my name, not knowing that they may be involved. I DO NOT blame David Love, in any way, shape or form. He had absolutely NO way of knowing that JNS was in on the whole thing with Mitch.
Now, how do I know that Mitch isn't just using JNS' name? Because he wouldn't be telling people people to pay money into a Paypal account if he had no way of getting that money out.
Several other things have been discovered that connect Platinum Dragons and JNS. I personally feel each person who has any information or proof of the connection will be happy to come on Fauna and state what happened in their particular case.
Oh, and Mitch or whatever you are calling yourself today, at least feed Apollo. In the pictures you posted of him on Reptibid, he appeared skinny and miserable...not the fat and happy Apollo that I shipped to you. Once again, you are caught in another lie...you said you were going to give him a good home...that includes FEEDING him!
