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Poor guy

You guys all need to step back and give Jesse a little respect.  I, for one, am in complete awe of him.  You can't find that complete lack of intelligence just anywhere.  Plus, it takes many people years to find the courage to come out as openly as he has.  On top of this, he is absolutely dauntless.  If I were a scam artist and got caught every single time, I would have long since given up.

Jesse strikes me as the kind of person, whom, if he ran into a wall, would keep banging his head against it until it fell down.  

Jesse, learn to fix cars, bag groceries, or shovel horse crap, because you will never have a future with reptiles.
And sign your friggin name, moron.
 
Hey.... Anybody know what happened to like 90% of the replies on JJ Underhill's Guyanas and Balls for sale post? Almost all of that thread is **poof** gone! WTH

Jesse Van Atta
 
Too much back and forth bickering.
The bickering belongs here on the BOI not on the classifieds.
From now on I will only keep interested responses ...as well as allow One buyer beware post.

I too am guilty..that is why all my post except for one buyer beware is gone.

The rules that I enforce has to aply to me too.............so poof
 
Ritchie, you should have left the post with the pic of the boa. I needed that for comparison if he agrees to a deal on it. I am offering to buy that one on the condition he ships first. If the snake shows up as represented, healthy, parasite free, and eating, I told him I would pay him. I want the transaction to be out in the open. I know the people on the BOI would be interested in how it turns out. This is a chance for him to show he is a trustworthy seller and not a scam artist (plus I get a nice looking Guyana red tail out of the deal for a good price).
So far he hasn't replied and I am not going to beg. I asked once. Now it's up to him.
 
Oh well, he won't sell me the one he posted the pic of. He has another one he can sell by itself but I'm not interested in that one. It's not really as nice as the one I offered to buy.
So as it turns out there's not going to be a deal.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">to weird.....
he is selling an animal
and he puts up a picture of one that is not on sale....hmm
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Yeah. Go figure. I thought it was kinda odd myself.
 
Why is it wierd I put her pick up So you can see I'm selling as a pair I really dont want to split them up they are proven breeder They are married LOL.I was really asking 800.00 for the female and you get the male for free.I just seen about a month or so ago a pair not even close to the size of mine or color go for 1500.00 So your getting a deal with mine.Jesse
 
*looks around nodding head*  See what I mean?  Eh?  

Jesse.  Who do you think you are fooling?  A well known scam artist (I use the word artist loosely) comes on here and says he has this great colored, big pair of snakes that usually go for $1500, but you will sell them for $800, and you expect anyone to believe you?  What a deal!!  I think I can speak for everyone when I say this, even if you had a proven pair of $20000 snakes and wanted to sell them for $400 just to cut someone a deal, assuming you really had the snakes and good intentions, no one would buy from you, because everyone knows you are a rip off.      You have long since destroyed any chance you had of doing business in the herp industry.  The fact that you keep trying is at once impressive and pitiful.  You are not the Borg.  Our resistence is not futile.  Give it up.  You're through.
 
Jesse,
OK, so you're saying that in your add you were originally selling the female alone for the $800 but would throw in the male for free.

But now if I want the male alone he is $400 or if I want the female alone she is $575. For a total of $975 if they go individually.

Man, you're confusing the hell out of me with this.

First you say you won't break them up, then you will sell only the male, now you will sell the feamle but it would cost more than...............I have a headache.

Basically, I need to buy both to get the better deal.

I only wanted the one you originally posted the pic of.

OK. In a nutshell. You WILL sell the one I wanted but it will be $575. Now is that the shipped price or has that changed?

In regards to your PM,
You posted that you would not sell the female but only the male. Now you will sell the female but for more than the male.

I have to think about this.
 
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Now THAT is a great idea! <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
 
you buy the female and get the male for free only with the female.I was going to use the female with my albino male my female albino is not big enuff yet to breed thats why I was only going to sell the male But now my buddy will breed my male with his albino.But if I sell them both then I guess the albino cross is out the window then.

Would you like pictures of them both eatting? No problem they eat like pigs. they have not been fed for about a month /half now cuz I cycled them and they will be breeding soon.
 
I have fixed the crap that went down when I was on vacation with everyone that Kevin & Jason sold to everyone.I may have missed some people so if they still have the receipt from the snake they purchased from them when I was gone.And they don't produce what they were sold to them as I'll replace them with what they were het for. Thats why I made that gurantee incase I missed people alot of papers were gone when we got back.But I have never scammed no one All I have been doing is fixing there ****** up.April think I scammed her but I never did they are what they were het for proven too I need room for some pythons I was getting in.I had no albino babies left when she purchased them only my adults they were been cycled for breeding I was not going to disturb them just so one person can see a albino ball.I'll have more babies avaib. this spring.The ones from April I was going to breed them when I got them back to proven she missed out but both kick the bucket within 3 weeks.I have one building setup for the one I get in till I know they are clean.Then they go into my collection in the basement.I'm not selling to rip people off.I think my prices are more then fair actually to cheap from the prices I see other selling them for.But i think everyone should be able to afford het or proven morphs without have to take out a loan or something to get them.Jesse Underhill
 
if you are confused here it is...
The pair for $800(male is free?)
the male for $400
the female for $575

here is what you do.
so that you won't be confused.
If you buy the pair for $800. He is kind enough to throw in the male for free.  Basically you are paying $800 for the female alone.

So buy the female alone for $575 and he can still throw the male in for free.

and if you do not want the male....I will give you $20 plus shipping
 
What is jesse Known for.

1. pictures on his website....he says the animals are his.  But you can find his pics on the net.  He stole them from someone else

2. He has partners in at least five states. But none of them come to his rescue

3.  Tony khamjoi, Jesse Underhill, Jon and Katie Larson...Do not know each other.  Or so they say. But they all have the same adress.
1011 4th ave N.W
Austin,Mn
55912


4.  Jesse's animals are always misrepresented.  He had a het to het breeding. And he was selling the babies as 100% het.
As a matter of fact...there is an e-mail running around where Jesse calls them Double het for albino.

5. Jesse owns the third albino surinam.

6.  Jesse has the only leusistic chameleon.

7.  Jesse's child has a snow boa to call his own.

8.  Jesse bought himself a new harley.

9.  Jesse bought his wife a new SUV

10.  Jesse's Facility produces over 700 animals a year. (wonder where they all are)

11.  He produces so many animals that he had to take pictures of Jeff Ronne's (The boaphile) Video and claim it as his own breeding facility.

12.  One of the pictures of Jesse's snake, during the course of two years, went from being normal, to being het for albino, to being an anery, to being DH for snow or something like that.  All the same female animal.

13.  Jesse in an e-mail, had a clutch with two albinos then 7 albinos then 11 and then back down to six.

14.  Jesse took pictures of all the normals boas in his clutch...but forgot to take pictures of the albinos.

15.  Jesse had a clutch of albinos but we saw no pictures because they all sold over seas.

16. He was selling a boa that was owned by someone else. (Clay English good guy)

17.  He only has pcitures of his het animals....actually he has pictures of two baby albino boas. and nothing else.  Although he claims to have an albino

18  Jesse's references sooner or later we prove those e-mail addys to be his.

19  His references claim he has piebals ball pythons.

20.  Jesse gets so confused that one year later those same references forget that they know jesse.  And deny they know him.  (it was jesse all along of course)

21.  Jesse does not need the internet to sell his animals.....he has a looooong list of buyers. That is why he is selling here and he says he will also get a kingsnake account.  But what for since he does not need the internet.
 
Jesse, we've went over this before.  You sold me sick snakes.  I gave up on trying to get you to pay for the vet bills.  I decided that would be punishment for myself for actually believing your lies.  You also lied about where they came from, how old they were, etc.  If you want to bring up the 'problems' you had with me again, why don't you explain once more to everyone what kind of proof you gave me that they produced albinos?  Here, let me remind you - you couldn't show me one of the albinos directly, which I requested.  So what did you do?  You stole a couple pics off Ralph Davis' website and passed them off as your own.  You can afford albino ball pythons but no camera to take pictures of them?  I can go on and on, but I won't.  I think everyone is aware of what kind of person you are.  
Again, I can ask, if they were really what you said they were, why couldn't you prove it?   Why did you lie about everything?  
You brought up my name, so I just felt I should respond...
 
Oh wait, I just read your post again.  So now you're saying that you did have albino balls at the time?  That you just 'didn't want to bother them'?  That's not what you told me when I bought the snakes.  You said you didn't have any and you were selling the hets to make room for your piebald project.  How's that going, by the way?  
Also, when I returned them you said you weren't even keeping them and that you've never had much luck breeding ball pythons anyway.  Yeah, I guess you can say your luck's pretty bad if all your 'hets' produce normals... even worse if your albinos produce normals.   <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
 
April --

His piebald project produces normals.
His albino Boas all produce normals.

Remember his wesite?
700 animals and at least ten different morphs?  They are all normals.

Jesse has hets and Double hets.
100% hets for nothing
100% Double hets for nothing
0% hets for everything.
100% hets for misrepresentation.
 
You asked me to bring a baby albino I had none left I'm not going too disturb my breeders when they are breeding just to show someone.You asked me to split the vet bill.DID you never call back or anything NO thats your fault not mine.I said I would Your the expert on age of snakes now i see everyone knowns balls most don't get over 4' mine are around 3 to 4' All of you don't even know the whole story behide everything that happen here.You and ritchie and everyone else will see what I produce this year in balls Not all of them are het adults either.Most people who say they got sick snakes return them the same time or the next day but you didn't I had no clue they where sick.How did i lie where they came from when I produced them??? etc etc or there age?? you have no clue on that.I get them back sicker from you they would not do anything just lay in the tub on there sides when I sold them to you they were moving and very active.

Ritchie So this spring when I produce more pieds you will not buy one? or a albinoI give you a deal on either best price ever No one would go down as low as i would.Or how about some ghosts or pastels I can beat anyones price on them Because I don't really care about the money.Jesse
 
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