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Rainer Weishaupl shipping USPS
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pch101 said:Thank you for the clearification. I will try not to make anyone too mad in the future
That doesn't stop some people sometimes. Some like Bluerosey do it because they got caught doing something stupid and decide to try to take it out on others.
bluerosy
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Alias,
the reason I made an attempt to give you negative points was you did not read my posts to see that I DO NOT PLACE THE DELI CUP INTO AN ENVELOPE. You even admitted to "fluffing over the posts". Just because someone says something here does not make it true. Unfortunatly when people read this they just assume it true just because you wrote it.
Alias post:
Since you never disputed the claim of USING an envelope to ship these snakes...and you DEFINITELY shipped them via USPS which has a very public stance on their postiion about shipping snakes...I cannot see how you could possibly make this ludicris claim.
Sorry I fluffed over all the other stuff...but this alone grabbed my attention because it shows just how little integrity and intelligence this guy truly has.
I don't feel you have any reason to continue arguing about the way you run your business...you obviously have absolutely no respect for your customers, the law, and especially the animals in question.
Do you know how many time my EXPRESS envelopes arrive completely destroyed?? They usually don't travel in pressurized cabins either.
The reason I "attempted" giving others negative posts was because of particular posts that used unproked name calling (DAND & HULTMAN) or mean spirited posts that did not take in all the facts. You also took my comments totally out of context in order to push your made up theory or belief. It is called counter-intuitive logic. I call it self-agrandizement.
and in another post of Alias:
Oh, yeah...it wasn't properly packaged...it was in a deli in an ENVELOPE...
Here is a post by ZxTrev that all of you seemed to have ignored. It explains how and why its better to ship in small boxes whenever possible because they are handled better and cause less stress on the snakes:
by Zx7trev
Rainer has shipped me Rosies on more than one occasion. They were outstanding specimens, and his knowledge of their husbandry is second to none. I suspect his kings are the same. In referance to his shipping snakes in deli containers packed with a medium, I too thought it was wacky, but the animals are always very healthy, well hydrated, and seem quite content when I have gotten them. I honestly think he has some points in packing them snuggly. If I were a young animal being shipping in a deli cup where I can be slid around and banged up everytime the box is moved, then I would be really stressed by the time I arrived at my destination. I think Rainers methods have merit, and he has proved them out over hundreds, of animals shipped this way. I know you guys will argue noone else does things this way, but I will also remind you that only a couple of hundred years ago, everyone was sure the world was flat. The point here is that just because its different than what you know, doesn't make it wrong.
As far as the box it shipped in, shipping baby snakes in a tightly packaged container in a small "box" type box, is just as safe as shipping something UPS/DHL/UPS overnight in a larger box. Why? Let me explain...I work for a computer parts company that ships hundreds of PC's, monitors, printers, and service parts every day. About 35000 per month actually. About 2% of those large packages arrive broken even though they are packeged in superior, top notch foam packing, in double ply boxes. The reason why is that these packages are not handled much by humans (because the dimensions of the box mark them as heavy, even if the box is not. this is called DIM Weight)...they are moved along conveyors at transit hubs etc and often can fall off. They are also palletized, and can be moved(and punctured) by forklifts etc. Also, they can happen to be the bottom box in a tall stack of heavy boxes, and get crushed his way. With sensitive parts...we often opt to use a smaller, clamshell type boxs, with some foam inserts, as the boxes are genrally handled better. With small boxes...such as the type you would use for a book, they are handled almost exclusively by hand, and almost never experiance "tramatic" damage. Its a fact, I have been doing this a very long time. Marking packages as Fragile, or Live animals, really does not do alot of good depending on which hubs the package is traveling through. The only real neagtive to this type of box is that the smaller boxes lack insulation (temperature control), which is something that can be dealt with by shipping in the right time of year, or if you are located in the south, and are shipping to a southern address ( and you watch the weather channel).
Here is an example of how I place a box into an envelope....and again I NEVER PLACED A DELI CUP INTO AN ENVELOPE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAID.
First the neonate is placed into a deli cup filled to the rim with shavings. Then the deli cup is taped so that the holes are not covered.
This is a Capri Sun box that I frequently use. I line it with styrofoam and then it is placed into a envelope with a heat pad. I use this method for two deli cups when sent to a cooler region. Now the box I sent Chausies was smaller because only one small neonate was sent. I did not insulated it ( but it did have a heat pack) because it was going to a warm climate (Gainesville, Florida) it was not neccessary. I also checked the temps before shipping :
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={E769F60C-9567-46D8-AB5F-5E7DE822A3B7}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7809408565>
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={BB147C7F-F203-41B5-8142-6F0139ADB7BF}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7808455556>
As you can see the deli cup has no room to be moved or jostled around. I find when shipping this aspect is the most important part. Snakes that are sent in large boxes yet the deli cup is not filled or it can be bounced around in the box is a horrble stress on the snake. Undfortunately nost people ship with a deli cup unfilled or half filled and then its placed in a big box that does not support the deli cup.
The envelpoe is used because it makes the packaging appear neat and professional while using a stonger box. The reason I use certain boxes (like the Capri sun box) because it is sturdy and strong enough to stand on.
Here is how it looks when a box is placed into the envelope:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={AC09AB2B-0FF5-4A1F-B5AD-BBCFBCED813C}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7816416088>
Another reason for shipping in a smaller box is the way it is handled. Hence this post explains that:
I also use different boxes for different size snakes. Here is another way I ship larger adult snakes. Again very snug and secure:
the box is insulated and I use peanuts for cushioning.
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={51F97F6A-3AC4-483B-847F-8E2761868601}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7812432176>
Snake is placed in a bag with paper towels (in this case an adult hypo brooksi) tied and taped:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={29A855BA-9A71-45D5-A4D5-1EA5F418D3F2}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7811028935>
Heat pack is added:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={B86F4B0F-D005-4744-B3B6-1990F91922CD}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7810318171>
and covered with more peanuts:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0D522BE5-BBA1-48DD-A184-99C741162D61}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7814222569>
then sealed:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={BFEE2252-BFBA-4302-BDCA-3E858BAD6195}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7813159144>
While here is no excuse to break the law by shipping USPS. But how many of you break the law by not paying taxes on your snakes? How about collecting with the proper permits or licenses? Should these things be posted to here "protect" our rights in this hobby?
Does this give me an excuse for breaking the law? NO! But how many of you are seriously free of all guilt of breaking the law? Not one of you! Look at yourselves and see the plank in your own eyes before you try to pick out the speck in your brothers eye.
In a nutshell I have had nearly a 100% success rate shipping over 20 years and my animals arrived less stressed that anyone elses. How do i know this? Because I have received many shipments from herpers that were not properly packaged with the snake in mind. Many of you should learn my packaging methods and apply them. In all I am a very good guy and produce and ship my animals safer than anyone else. I have come across one person who ships snakes as well packaged and that is Don Soderberg. He has alo been shipping for a long time.
the reason I made an attempt to give you negative points was you did not read my posts to see that I DO NOT PLACE THE DELI CUP INTO AN ENVELOPE. You even admitted to "fluffing over the posts". Just because someone says something here does not make it true. Unfortunatly when people read this they just assume it true just because you wrote it.
Alias post:
Since you never disputed the claim of USING an envelope to ship these snakes...and you DEFINITELY shipped them via USPS which has a very public stance on their postiion about shipping snakes...I cannot see how you could possibly make this ludicris claim.
Sorry I fluffed over all the other stuff...but this alone grabbed my attention because it shows just how little integrity and intelligence this guy truly has.
I don't feel you have any reason to continue arguing about the way you run your business...you obviously have absolutely no respect for your customers, the law, and especially the animals in question.
Do you know how many time my EXPRESS envelopes arrive completely destroyed?? They usually don't travel in pressurized cabins either.
The reason I "attempted" giving others negative posts was because of particular posts that used unproked name calling (DAND & HULTMAN) or mean spirited posts that did not take in all the facts. You also took my comments totally out of context in order to push your made up theory or belief. It is called counter-intuitive logic. I call it self-agrandizement.
and in another post of Alias:
Oh, yeah...it wasn't properly packaged...it was in a deli in an ENVELOPE...
Here is a post by ZxTrev that all of you seemed to have ignored. It explains how and why its better to ship in small boxes whenever possible because they are handled better and cause less stress on the snakes:
by Zx7trev
Rainer has shipped me Rosies on more than one occasion. They were outstanding specimens, and his knowledge of their husbandry is second to none. I suspect his kings are the same. In referance to his shipping snakes in deli containers packed with a medium, I too thought it was wacky, but the animals are always very healthy, well hydrated, and seem quite content when I have gotten them. I honestly think he has some points in packing them snuggly. If I were a young animal being shipping in a deli cup where I can be slid around and banged up everytime the box is moved, then I would be really stressed by the time I arrived at my destination. I think Rainers methods have merit, and he has proved them out over hundreds, of animals shipped this way. I know you guys will argue noone else does things this way, but I will also remind you that only a couple of hundred years ago, everyone was sure the world was flat. The point here is that just because its different than what you know, doesn't make it wrong.
As far as the box it shipped in, shipping baby snakes in a tightly packaged container in a small "box" type box, is just as safe as shipping something UPS/DHL/UPS overnight in a larger box. Why? Let me explain...I work for a computer parts company that ships hundreds of PC's, monitors, printers, and service parts every day. About 35000 per month actually. About 2% of those large packages arrive broken even though they are packeged in superior, top notch foam packing, in double ply boxes. The reason why is that these packages are not handled much by humans (because the dimensions of the box mark them as heavy, even if the box is not. this is called DIM Weight)...they are moved along conveyors at transit hubs etc and often can fall off. They are also palletized, and can be moved(and punctured) by forklifts etc. Also, they can happen to be the bottom box in a tall stack of heavy boxes, and get crushed his way. With sensitive parts...we often opt to use a smaller, clamshell type boxs, with some foam inserts, as the boxes are genrally handled better. With small boxes...such as the type you would use for a book, they are handled almost exclusively by hand, and almost never experiance "tramatic" damage. Its a fact, I have been doing this a very long time. Marking packages as Fragile, or Live animals, really does not do alot of good depending on which hubs the package is traveling through. The only real neagtive to this type of box is that the smaller boxes lack insulation (temperature control), which is something that can be dealt with by shipping in the right time of year, or if you are located in the south, and are shipping to a southern address ( and you watch the weather channel).
Here is an example of how I place a box into an envelope....and again I NEVER PLACED A DELI CUP INTO AN ENVELOPE LIKE SOME OF YOU SAID.
First the neonate is placed into a deli cup filled to the rim with shavings. Then the deli cup is taped so that the holes are not covered.
This is a Capri Sun box that I frequently use. I line it with styrofoam and then it is placed into a envelope with a heat pad. I use this method for two deli cups when sent to a cooler region. Now the box I sent Chausies was smaller because only one small neonate was sent. I did not insulated it ( but it did have a heat pack) because it was going to a warm climate (Gainesville, Florida) it was not neccessary. I also checked the temps before shipping :
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={E769F60C-9567-46D8-AB5F-5E7DE822A3B7}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7809408565>
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={BB147C7F-F203-41B5-8142-6F0139ADB7BF}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7808455556>
As you can see the deli cup has no room to be moved or jostled around. I find when shipping this aspect is the most important part. Snakes that are sent in large boxes yet the deli cup is not filled or it can be bounced around in the box is a horrble stress on the snake. Undfortunately nost people ship with a deli cup unfilled or half filled and then its placed in a big box that does not support the deli cup.
The envelpoe is used because it makes the packaging appear neat and professional while using a stonger box. The reason I use certain boxes (like the Capri sun box) because it is sturdy and strong enough to stand on.
Here is how it looks when a box is placed into the envelope:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={AC09AB2B-0FF5-4A1F-B5AD-BBCFBCED813C}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7816416088>
Another reason for shipping in a smaller box is the way it is handled. Hence this post explains that:
I also use different boxes for different size snakes. Here is another way I ship larger adult snakes. Again very snug and secure:
the box is insulated and I use peanuts for cushioning.
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={51F97F6A-3AC4-483B-847F-8E2761868601}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7812432176>
Snake is placed in a bag with paper towels (in this case an adult hypo brooksi) tied and taped:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={29A855BA-9A71-45D5-A4D5-1EA5F418D3F2}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7811028935>
Heat pack is added:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={B86F4B0F-D005-4744-B3B6-1990F91922CD}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7810318171>
and covered with more peanuts:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={0D522BE5-BBA1-48DD-A184-99C741162D61}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7814222569>
then sealed:
<img src=http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={BFEE2252-BFBA-4302-BDCA-3E858BAD6195}&exp=f&moddt=38399.7813159144>
While here is no excuse to break the law by shipping USPS. But how many of you break the law by not paying taxes on your snakes? How about collecting with the proper permits or licenses? Should these things be posted to here "protect" our rights in this hobby?
Does this give me an excuse for breaking the law? NO! But how many of you are seriously free of all guilt of breaking the law? Not one of you! Look at yourselves and see the plank in your own eyes before you try to pick out the speck in your brothers eye.
In a nutshell I have had nearly a 100% success rate shipping over 20 years and my animals arrived less stressed that anyone elses. How do i know this? Because I have received many shipments from herpers that were not properly packaged with the snake in mind. Many of you should learn my packaging methods and apply them. In all I am a very good guy and produce and ship my animals safer than anyone else. I have come across one person who ships snakes as well packaged and that is Don Soderberg. He has alo been shipping for a long time.
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DAND said:
Are you ready to finally answer the questions above? Or are yu going to continue to avoid answering them?
Zx7trev
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Well done Rainer. Alot of folks on this board are really good at being judgemental. Glad to see someone with thier ducks in a row that can post a solid response to the attacks. As far as the USPS thing...two wrongs don't make a right...so...even if others do break the law in several ways (and they probably do), doesn't mean you should/can. Otherwise, great post. If I could give you points, I would.
Shawn
Shawn
Zx7trev
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The problem with your post
Dand,
The problem with your question is that its a question and an accusation all in one. Read it. 2/3rds of it is extremely aggressive and is basically drawing your own conclusions before you give him a chance to respond. I would ignore you too...your mind is already made up. The sarcasm would have gotten the same response from me that you got from Rainer...nothing at all.
"Originally Posted by DAND
Why would you put any other name besides your own on the package you are shipping? Charlene stated the name Frank Yourez (or something like it) was on the package she received from you. Could this be a nickname or an alias? Could this be because you know it is illegal to ship snakes via USPS and you put a different name other than your own in an attempt to CYA if the contents of the package were known? I wonder if the return address provided was your actual address or vacant lot"...dripping with sarcasm...you derserve the negative points he tried to give you.
Shawn
Dand,
The problem with your question is that its a question and an accusation all in one. Read it. 2/3rds of it is extremely aggressive and is basically drawing your own conclusions before you give him a chance to respond. I would ignore you too...your mind is already made up. The sarcasm would have gotten the same response from me that you got from Rainer...nothing at all.
"Originally Posted by DAND
Why would you put any other name besides your own on the package you are shipping? Charlene stated the name Frank Yourez (or something like it) was on the package she received from you. Could this be a nickname or an alias? Could this be because you know it is illegal to ship snakes via USPS and you put a different name other than your own in an attempt to CYA if the contents of the package were known? I wonder if the return address provided was your actual address or vacant lot"...dripping with sarcasm...you derserve the negative points he tried to give you.
Shawn
pch101
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Shawn, I disagree. I do not think David's (DAND) questions are easy questions to face, I DO think that they warrant an answer. I personally think Rainer is a nice guy (anyone that likes Rosy Boas can't be bad), but I also think that David's questions are legitimate questions. Yes, there was some sarcasm in there, but I do not think it was that extreme. If it were me, I would want to remove all doubt and speculation, and make others eat their words. I have been under fire before, and sometimes people are very immature, and VERY sarcastic. In these situations, I simply post a response with every rude, sarcastic, stupid thing they say, individually printed out for all to see (again), and I give them an intelligent answer to each point they make. This gets the answer out, and basically shuts them up. So to me, I can't even imagine not wanting to address the questions. However, I also realize that people do not all think the same way...
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Zx7trev said:
I wasn't the only one who asked who Frank Yourez was, yet the question was still ignored even when asked without sarcasm.
Ophis said:
Ophis
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Rainer.
Who is Frank Yourez? (or something like that)
Who is Frank Yourez? (or something like that)
twh49801
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winers,wankers and wannabes
i'm new to this forum and blows me away how imature many posters act.it seems that many people think that if they find a fault or mistake in someone it gives them the right to go for the jugular.i wonder if these same people act this way in every day life with people they interface with? or is it that behind a computer you feel a rush of power to cut somebody a new one when your not looking them in the eyes and reveal your REAL self? so sad.
i'm retired from the transporation industry,the last 15 years with federal express.air freight is sorted by doucements and box freight,box freight goes down a belt and a machine reads the zip code then when it gets to the proper chute a arm comes out at 40 MPH to push it down the chute and sort it.this process can happen up to 5 6 7 times before it gets loaded on a aircraft.so you can see why internal movement can cause damage or in the case of reptiles stress.doucements are sorted in a much less stressful way.
i've received several shipments from rainer and there was never a problem,the snakes never seemed stressed.shipping in boxes while necessary for older animals is not the best way to ship hatchlings.shipping with the post office was a mistake,it's been corrected so let's move on.i wonder what it would be like if people treated others the way they wanted to be treated ?
TIMOTHY W. HURKMANS
i'm new to this forum and blows me away how imature many posters act.it seems that many people think that if they find a fault or mistake in someone it gives them the right to go for the jugular.i wonder if these same people act this way in every day life with people they interface with? or is it that behind a computer you feel a rush of power to cut somebody a new one when your not looking them in the eyes and reveal your REAL self? so sad.
i'm retired from the transporation industry,the last 15 years with federal express.air freight is sorted by doucements and box freight,box freight goes down a belt and a machine reads the zip code then when it gets to the proper chute a arm comes out at 40 MPH to push it down the chute and sort it.this process can happen up to 5 6 7 times before it gets loaded on a aircraft.so you can see why internal movement can cause damage or in the case of reptiles stress.doucements are sorted in a much less stressful way.
i've received several shipments from rainer and there was never a problem,the snakes never seemed stressed.shipping in boxes while necessary for older animals is not the best way to ship hatchlings.shipping with the post office was a mistake,it's been corrected so let's move on.i wonder what it would be like if people treated others the way they wanted to be treated ?
TIMOTHY W. HURKMANS
Ophis
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Hey, All Rainer had to do in the first place was say Yep, I have shipped snakes via USPS because Its damn convienient. I knew it was probably Ilegal, but I never really considered how frowned upon this practice is. I apologize for that and don't plan on doing it ever again. As for my shipping tecnique, here it is....etc....yada yada....you can judge for yourselves. And as for the Yourez thing.....Etc....
I think that would have made everyone happy.
I think that would have made everyone happy.
Sasheena
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I don't recall Rainer ever denying his shipping method.
Ophis
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I don't recall him doing that either. I do reacall him giving all sorts of rationalizations and excuses as to why he did though.
Joe,
If your concern is the following:
The quote below has Rainer’s first post on this topic, made on 02-10-2005 at 10:51 PM a few minutes before posting on the current thread:
He acknowledged he was wrong by shipping USPS and he did it to save money in shipping inexpensive snakes.
Regards.
If your concern is the following:
The quote below has Rainer’s first post on this topic, made on 02-10-2005 at 10:51 PM a few minutes before posting on the current thread:
He acknowledged he was wrong by shipping USPS and he did it to save money in shipping inexpensive snakes.
Regards.
BTW that post was in the General Business Discussions so you might have missed it.
Regards.
Regards.
Sasheena
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Ophis, you say the above, which to my way of reading this thread is what happened... and you say that isn't enough, when clearly you say it IS enough in the aforementioned quote..... so which is it.
Just seems to me that he didn't "suck up" enough to satisfy certain people. (PLEASE excuse my use of such strong language)
I'm GLAD he's not going to ship USPS.... since that is his "BAD GUY" deal.. and he's said he won't.... isn't it case closed?
I don't know anything about any other name on the box... I do know when he sent me packages they were from HIM.... so I doubt that any alternate name on the package was in any attempt to scam anyone, or to keep from having the repercussions of shipping illegally fall back on him. If I was shipping something and knew that I would not be around for a shipment that was unexpectedly marked "return to sender" I would ask permission from a friend to put their name and return address in the unlikely event that the package was sent back to the shipper. I wouldn't want my animal to languish in a box. So whether or not this or another 100 other likely reasons is the real reason, I don't believe that there is a reason to keep hounding. I read this thread pretty closely and didn't see that particular question the first or third time either. Take a deep breath.
He gave his REASONS... just because they are not reason enough for you doesn't mean that they weren't his reasons.
Ophis
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Like I said Dan, he admitted to shipping USPS but gave various other rationalizations for not using other carriers (not just saving money on less expensive snakes) which were all shot down. He should have just come clean without all the rationalizations and attitude.
bluerosy
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BTW the name is Frank Juarez and not Frank Yourez and YES he is a real person. The original poster (Chausies) who started this thread with a link to another thread that delt with the same issue so first I was forced to go between two threads. In her first post she also said there was another person who said i had shipped him 3 snakes that died in transit and that was again also provenCOMPLETELY FALSE. But did anyone acknowlegde that. No! But what is happening here is mere accusations makes one look guilty.
So why would I continue feeding this type of mentality displayed here by a few "frequent posters"?
The question is why was his name was on the box?
Maybe Frank Juarez is a friend who who did me a favor by shipped the box while I was away during the Christmas holiday.
Or Maybe I sold the snake for my brother-in-law Frank Juarez?
Or Maybe its a business partner?
Or Maybe the snake belonged to a neihbors who I advertised the snake for?
Or Maybe I sold the snake for my 16 year old stepson "Franky" Juarez?
Whatever the reason. Its not good enough for the people who have made personal attacks on me. AND Its NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS! ITS PERSONAL AND I DON'T FEEL IT IS RELEVANT TO ANYTHING HERE. Besides whatever the reason it will just be laughed at and ridiculed and said to be a joke by this same ignorant crowd.
After experiencing the responses by this "core community" on this site I really have second thoughts about ever sharing anything here again. It is out of control. Completely unjust. And there is no rule or system set down to prove or disprove anything. Just the fact that someone has a some rep power and then states something, then it is accepted AND APPEARS as fact by others. So everyone jumps on the band wagon like a bunch of dogs in heat after they THINK first blood was drawn". Yet you guys have a pack mentality and for that reason public linchings were made illegal. Now we have a different type of public linching. INTERNET LINCHING AND IT DOES THE SAME KIND OF DAMAGE TO ONES REPUTATION AND CHARACTER. I have had a lot of people email me but they do not want to post for the simple reason they know they will also be thrown to the wolves.
So why would I continue feeding this type of mentality displayed here by a few "frequent posters"?
The question is why was his name was on the box?
Maybe Frank Juarez is a friend who who did me a favor by shipped the box while I was away during the Christmas holiday.
Or Maybe I sold the snake for my brother-in-law Frank Juarez?
Or Maybe its a business partner?
Or Maybe the snake belonged to a neihbors who I advertised the snake for?
Or Maybe I sold the snake for my 16 year old stepson "Franky" Juarez?
Whatever the reason. Its not good enough for the people who have made personal attacks on me. AND Its NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS! ITS PERSONAL AND I DON'T FEEL IT IS RELEVANT TO ANYTHING HERE. Besides whatever the reason it will just be laughed at and ridiculed and said to be a joke by this same ignorant crowd.
After experiencing the responses by this "core community" on this site I really have second thoughts about ever sharing anything here again. It is out of control. Completely unjust. And there is no rule or system set down to prove or disprove anything. Just the fact that someone has a some rep power and then states something, then it is accepted AND APPEARS as fact by others. So everyone jumps on the band wagon like a bunch of dogs in heat after they THINK first blood was drawn". Yet you guys have a pack mentality and for that reason public linchings were made illegal. Now we have a different type of public linching. INTERNET LINCHING AND IT DOES THE SAME KIND OF DAMAGE TO ONES REPUTATION AND CHARACTER. I have had a lot of people email me but they do not want to post for the simple reason they know they will also be thrown to the wolves.
Ophis
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Sasheena said:Ophis, you say the above, which to my way of reading this thread is what happened... and you say that isn't enough, when clearly you say it IS enough in the aforementioned quote..... so which is it.
Hey, sorry your confused. I and others interpreted his posts differently.
Sasheena said:
You call it sucking up, I call it leaving out all the rationalizations for breaking the law.
Sasheena said:
Well, I guess so, as long as he doesn't do something like ship YOU snakes USPS for the third time! (Two was enough) And there is the Yourez thing too.
Sasheena said:
Oh.....that doesn't ring wierd too you? maybe its because YOUR EZ. How about if Rainer explains it? Seems like a legit question to me.
Ophis
New member
Rainer. If you would have just simply stated why frank Juarez's info was on your package in the first place when asked and not avoided the question for days then posted an explaination with all of the attached drama, maybe people would form a better opinion of you.