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*(RED FLAG) LnB REPTILES (BIG TIME SCAM)

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Yesterday i was informed that Barry White , of LnB REPTILES from south carolina is selling animals SHARP STRAIN animals
albinos and 100% hets, I believe the story goes 7.1 albinos and 27 hets and the mother of these snakes is a female from my website.
Thats rite , aparently Barry White helped himself to a photo of a beautiful sharp strain animal from my collection page. And then to more incriminate himself he told a friend of mine that that photo was taken at his very own facility and that it was his pic and snake , meanwhile im looking at the same pic same snake , same newspapper background as my pic . 100% identicle .
Then barry says to my friend ( dont show anyone this pic ) ,lol
YEA OK. WELL BARRY HE SHOWED ME !!!!!!!!
THIS female was sold to a friend back in april and she is still there now. with my friend who i just spoke to.
So Barrys possesion of this breeder female is IMPOSSIBLE !
IF ANYONE HAS PURCHASED SNAKES SUPOSIDLY FROM THIS BREEDING , PLEASE LET ME KNOW ,
If you purchased albino sharp strains from barry id really like to see a pic of them ( at this point i doubt he ever had them at all )
and if only hets were sold and shipped out ?
the purpose of this thread is to inform potential buyers of his that the snake Barry is selling as the mother , is not . and the pic is mine at my facility
chuck,
chuck tornetta reptiles
www.boadome.com

Barry, Barry , Barry im sure mother told you not to lie.
 
Isn't this the same guy that was linked with the c.r.e. brake in? I think this guy needs to be looked at a little more. I've seen a few threads where people are asking about him, but no one really responds. Why is that? Is this guy a friend to some of the guys on here or something? Any other time that someone starts a thread on the boi about someone, it's like sharks smelling blood,......EVERYONE has something to say. So, what makes this guy any different? Something doesnt ad up to me. Maybe I'm wrong. Chuck,....man, this sucks. What are you going to do with him? I hope that not too many people got ripped off by him. If you have, you need to go after him. Sounds like the start of yet another shady reptile dealer.
 
I Smell a RAT, in my back yard

I am in the middle of trying to figure out just what this guy is up to.
I spoke to him on 7-6-04 but did not know him or his business, nor have i ever done business with him at all.
He had that post up about the cheap sharp strains with no pic so i was feeling him out
he blew a bunch of smoke up my a$$ about him and his partner with 900 big snakes
and how he is buying 6 pairs of 100% hetero leucistic ball pythons from the original breeder of them,
i checked that out and that info was as false as i thaught it would be.
he also has stated to a few people that he has a silent partner
named ( JOHN M, ) If anyone knows who john ,m, is please let me know or at least where he is located from.
i have reason to believe this story is going to take a bizare twist , and in a way i will be getting ripped off for at least 20,000.00
HOWEVER I DO NOT yet have enough proof ,
I may not be getting ripped off .
so i cant exactly go into it here and now without damaging the reputation of a couple of breeders in the business.
AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO TARNISH ANYONES NAME THAT IS , NOT INVOLVED WITH ANY WRONG DOING.
It all comes down to weather that snake i sold in april actually had babys or not aprox 7 weeks ago
( or so i hear , ) slim chance it may be just BARRY WHITE trying to rip off folks showing my pic to scam folks into buying fake animals,
or cenario 2 is ; barry is just a broker for these animals and stole the pic to help sell them ,
i really need to know who this john , m. is and his involvment
as far as barry white goes, i dont know him . dont care who he is , and wouldnt believe him , or anything he says i dont care who his friends are !
chuck,t.....

TIME IS A MOTHER---- EVERYTHING ALWAYS COMES OUT IN THE WASH !!!!!
 
John M

I am looking that one up, I am not 100% sure it is who I think it is but if it is rest assured i will be posting that information when I confirm it.
 
I've talked to a few people about L and B. I'm pretty sure I know who his partner is. Not 100% sure though, so I'm not going to name anyone. I was looking at ads they posted though, they must not be having too much interest in their stuff because alot of it is going down considerably in price. Oh, geez,....people not believing all the lies? I wonder if the venomoid albino monacles are really venomoid or if some poor soul will buy them and end up getting killed!
 
Brian, if you think you have any ideas as to who it is, email me and let me know. We can compare notes.
 
Mike I was thinking it was a John M I know from the Charleston area, but after a quick phone call I was assured it wasn't. Fact is he doesn't even keep reptiles anymore.

Guess it is back to the address book then.
 
I heard it was a guy named Leroy who used to sell alot of feeder rats and stuff like that. Not sure or not, but it does fit the whole "L and B" name. I always thought he was a good guy from the stuff I had heard about him, not sure why he's associating himself with dishonesty. Again, I might be wrong, cant be sure.
 
Still nothing on the John M name. Could be someone I haven't met or delt with. But this is interesting.
 
STAY CLEAR OF BARRY WHITE

I will have to agree, Stay clear of this guy. We had something worked out and he never sent his animal, I never sent mine. He came up with lame excusses to why he did not ship then I never heard from him and I am glad for that. I can get in to detail if you email me or pm me.

Chad M. Umbaugh
 
I've seen a few threads where people are asking about him, but no one really responds. Why is that? Is this guy a friend to some of the guys on here or something? Any other time that someone starts a thread on the boi about someone, it's like sharks smelling blood,......
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Why no one responded about inquiries to Barry White.
1. It couldn't be because no one knows anything aobut him.
2. It couldn't be because no one posted details so we could not smell a scam yet.

I'll tell you what it could be though.
It could be because he is friends with someone here and we like to have friends as scammers. Yeah that's it.
And your a what?

nevermind I will stay mature and not call names.
 
Hey bigshow, didn't your pal eisnmann over at carolina reptile exchange do business with barry white? Perhaps you could query your pal bruce/harry/noah/and whoever else he's going by these days and get some real answers instead of conjectures and maybes.
 
Hey bigshow, didn't your pal eisnmann over at carolina reptile exchange do business with barry white?
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Now I remember what I forgot a long time ago after I got busy and got side tracked.

I must pick up where I left off.

A quote from bigshow about his beloved bruce eisenman.
yea, go ahead and read. I'm not going to argue with anyone on here, but none of the stuff that people say about CRE has been proven. So, use your own judgement.
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you mean his dad is really alive and he never pretended to be his dad?
the fake receipt for his piebald was really real and written for a company that did not exist?
you mean harry really came back from the dead and bought that animal two months after he died?

bigshow is either blind or I must continue digging to see who he really is.
 
I was wondering what bigshow is doing in this thread since he has a history of only posting to defend harry eisenman. or bruce eisenman or noah or whoever they call themselves these days.

Then I remembered the whole break in at eisenman story.

Bruce "supposedly" got caught and arrested with Barry's animals.
Barry I guess helped get bruce arrested or what not.

And poof here is big show talking about barry and accusing the board of being friends with barry that is why no one was after barry.

I can see through you big show.

Your not after barry because he might or might not be a crook.
Your after barry because he went against your beloved bruce eisenman.
 
bigshow said:
I heard it was a guy named Leroy who used to sell alot of feeder rats and stuff like that. Not sure or not, but it does fit the whole "L and B" name. I always thought he was a good guy from the stuff I had heard about him, not sure why he's associating himself with dishonesty. Again, I might be wrong, cant be sure.
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I remember someone getting mad and telling us to get our facts straight before accusing Bruce eisenman of shipping venomous through ups or fed ex.

I wonder why he is now naming names without having facts?

oh yeah...because back then he was defending his beloved bruce.


Why do I say his beloved bruce?
because bruce can do no wrong.
bigshow supposedly read everything about bruce harry cre digital reptiles and noah.
he must have closed his eyes during tha bad parts (which was everything)

BIG SHOW WAS TO BLIND TO READ ALL THE POSTS THAT HARRY MADE 2-3 YEARS AFTER HIS DEATH.

Talk about someone who will protect his beloved friend no matter what.

So do not accuse this board of protecting a "friend" when you are the one who is clearly doing it.
 
LnB aka Barry White

Barry White has even found a way to outsmart pay pal,UNTIL NOW!!!When contacted by paypal as to why he has not shipped,he packs up a box and has Airborne/DHL pick it up.He marks the box "LIVE SNAKES" and the terminal then returns the box back to him at HIS address.When paypal checks the airbill,DHL shows box delivered to confirmed address!Then pay pal says no action to be taken as box was delivered.The only way to check is to speak to live operator who will explain this.It's a lot harder to re-contact pay pal after they close your case,but I will persevere.Also,dhl is faxing a paper to me and soon will will have the home address of this creep who takes the fun out of an enjoyable hobby.
A.P.DIPASQUALE
 
Hey, LUNA,.........did you ever think that maybe The whole C.R.E. break in wasnt really a set up by Bruce? Did you ever think that maybe he got screwed? At first, from what I understand from everyone, Barry and a friend of his were the first two suspects in the case. Then it got turned around on bruce. It's funny that some of the stuff that was stolen from cre, barry is now looking for the oppsite sexes of those animals. That doesnt seem funny to you? Oh, what am I thinking?.......You talk about me being blind...........maybe your hatred for bruce is blinding you now smart guy! Heck, for all I know, you could be helping barry and leroy and that's why you're so protective.
 
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