Bad Guy Repti racks

[ReptileMan27]

All I can say is have done business with Repti-Racks in past and will do business with them again.. It says right on their site to that takes time for cages/racks to be made.. However for the prices and quality it's well worth the wait.

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

All I can say is have done business with Repti-Racks in past and will do business with them again.. It says right on their site to that takes time for cages/racks to be made.. However for the prices and quality it's well worth the wait.

it's one thing having it on the site and sticking to your lead times it is another telling customers another lead time over the phone just to get a sale.

 

[deborahbroadus]

no but ill ask him if he want's to do that i have to wait until it comes tomorrow before making any decisions

Parsippany, NJ, United States 12/20/2011 10:58 A.M. Arrival Scan

should be here tomorrow on scheduled time

Since "Nick" seems to be firmly in your back pocket...or since you seemingly have a firm grasp on HIS pocket then I'll just wait and see if a post about this transaction pops up under his name.

Until then, I'll avoid both of you like the plague, you for being so terribly dense (who needs that in either a customer or a seller?) and him for being so apparently gullible (both character traits are not attractive in the business scheme of things.)

If he's not being gullible, he must be being held hostage by you, and attempting to stay low-key to try and salvage something from this TRAIN WRECK! There's no other reason other than him being a fictious person that can be the reason for such compliancy.

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

that's your choice man =) have a good one

 

[ophidile]

I really have only one thing to add to this, and I only read the first couple pages before it seemed to devolve into circular arguing. Sorry if I missed something important.

From what I've seen the majority opinion when a snake is resold, then the 3rd party finds it's not what it was supposed to be (gender, genetics, etc) is that each seller&buyer is only responsible for the one they sold to. Otherwise things are a confusing mess. I don't see why it should be very different for a cage.

I understand why Almando was concerned about getting the cage to Nick, and now I guess maybe another buyer. I do not think Repti-Racks should concern themselves with the 2nd buyer is so much as Almando. Almando paid them their money and is the one who has the contract. It doesn't matter who paid Almando and what contract they have that is between Almando and the 2nd buyer, not Repti-Racks. Unless Repti-racks agreed to renegotiate the contract but again, that's just setting themselves up for a headache.

So Repti-Racks should ship wherever Almando says they should ship and wash their hands of the affair. Repti-Racks already points to their TOS as to why they can't give a refund, so I hope they just made another agreement here or via email that Almando accepts all responsibility for shipping to the 3rd party address, even if it's unconfirmed, and just do it and get it done. I gather this has probably happened already, though the package is in transit.

Yeah the whole thing with Nick is pretty weird but again, I don't think it needs be of Repti-Racks concern beyond telling Almando that he (?) accepts all risk if shipping to an address he is not personally present at.

My 2c.

And no I don't see anything here to say Repti-Racks is a bad guy, but they do seem to have made things even more complicated than they had to be at the beginning (along with the buyer too, of course).

 

[hhmoore]

Repti-Racks DID ship to Nick (as agreed)...then Almando posted that he was going to do a chargeback. Luckily, Repti-Racks was able to have the cage re-routed. Now, Nick has neither the cage or money; and Almando needs to make right by him - which he says he will do eventually. (eventually, because he's been waffling on what he will do, and when. He was pretty solid on refunding Nick after he sold the cage again, but now he claims to be looking at options for shipping the cage to him)

 

[deborahbroadus]

Repti-Racks DID ship to Nick (as agreed)...then Almando posted that he was going to do a chargeback. Luckily, Repti-Racks was able to have the cage re-routed. Now, Nick has neither the cage or money; and Almando needs to make right by him - which he says he will do eventually. (eventually, because he's been waffling on what he will do, and when. He was pretty solid on refunding Nick after he sold the cage again, but now he claims to be looking at options for shipping the cage to him)

Nice summary, quite on point.

The scam that I am seeing is having my friend give me money to charge him a cage with my credit card (friend gets a cheap cage though me) and I get my money back from the dealer with a charge back. In this instance, he didn't seem to factor in how quickly a re-route could be done.

 

[ophidile]

Repti-Racks DID ship to Nick (as agreed)...then Almando posted that he was going to do a chargeback. Luckily, Repti-Racks was able to have the cage re-routed. Now, Nick has neither the cage or money; and Almando needs to make right by him - which he says he will do eventually. (eventually, because he's been waffling on what he will do, and when. He was pretty solid on refunding Nick after he sold the cage again, but now he claims to be looking at options for shipping the cage to him)

Wow, sorry I missed that O-o Thank you for the summary.

I went back and skimmed everything; I have to admit, if he ordered the cages in July and by December the vendor was saying they would have nothing to do with me because of a 3rd party sale and refused to even give photos of the product or a tracking number, I would be a little put out too And it sounds like the chargeback never happened, once tracking info was given?

I my understanding is repti-racks decided to reroute the cage from Nick to Almando because of the threatened chargeback, ( this post ) . Did they consult with Almando over this? Or did they suddenly change their tune from "Nick is the buyer now we will only deal with Nick" to "you are the legal buyer we will only ship to you"? That's pretty much on repti-racks if that's what went down.

But, it does sound like Almando is the one to beware of too, bragging over selling stolen software, flipping stuff (not illegal, just a pain in the neck), waffling on what he wants to do with this cage, and not refunding his 3rd party immediately when he decides to cancel the deal! Sounds like a big risk of a headache to deal with

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

Wow, sorry I missed that O-o Thank you for the summary.

I went back and skimmed everything; I have to admit, if he ordered the cages in July and by December the vendor was saying they would have nothing to do with me because of a 3rd party sale and refused to even give photos of the product or a tracking number, I would be a little put out too And it sounds like the chargeback never happened, once tracking info was given?

I my understanding is repti-racks decided to reroute the cage from Nick to Almando because of the threatened chargeback, ( this post ) . Did they consult with Almando over this? Or did they suddenly change their tune from "Nick is the buyer now we will only deal with Nick" to "you are the legal buyer we will only ship to you"? That's pretty much on repti-racks if that's what went down.

But, it does sound like Almando is the one to beware of too, bragging over selling stolen software, flipping stuff (not illegal, just a pain in the neck), waffling on what he wants to do with this cage, and not refunding his 3rd party immediately when he decides to cancel the deal! Sounds like a big risk of a headache to deal with

never said i wasn't going to refund nick,since you skimmed through the topic then i am sure you would see where i have posted screen shots of me speaking to nick the buyer who is fine with waiting for the cage to arrive today to see if i could re route it or refund it,no problem tho i have a buyer from fauna anyway for the cage if the deal falls through.

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

sorry""

meant to say if it can't be re routed or cost to much i have a buyer for the cage which ill then sell to and refund nick which i told nick i would do since monday which he was perfectly fine with

 

[ophidile]

never said i wasn't going to refund nick,since you skimmed through the topic then i am sure you would see where i have posted screen shots of me speaking to nick the buyer who is fine with waiting for the cage to arrive today to see if i could re route it or refund it,no problem tho i have a buyer from fauna anyway for the cage if the deal falls through.

YES I didn't say you said you would never refund Nick, I said you should have refunded him as soon as you decided the deal wasn't going to be with him.
I guess if you're still thinking of rerouting it back to Nick then that would be a reason not to have refunded, but how do you not know this by now? It's been in transit to you for several days?

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

Wow, sorry I missed that O-o Thank you for the summary.

I went back and skimmed everything; I have to admit, if he ordered the cages in July and by December the vendor was saying they would have nothing to do with me because of a 3rd party sale and refused to even give photos of the product or a tracking number, I would be a little put out too And it sounds like the chargeback never happened, once tracking info was given?

I my understanding is repti-racks decided to reroute the cage from Nick to Almando because of the threatened chargeback, ( this post ) . Did they consult with Almando over this? Or did they suddenly change their tune from "Nick is the buyer now we will only deal with Nick" to "you are the legal buyer we will only ship to you"? That's pretty much on repti-racks if that's what went down.

But, it does sound like Almando is the one to beware of too, bragging over selling stolen software, flipping stuff (not illegal, just a pain in the neck), waffling on what he wants to do with this cage, and not refunding his 3rd party immediately when he decides to cancel the deal! Sounds like a big risk of a headache to deal with

no repti racks never consulted with me on the re route,i was very surprised when i got a tracking number in my email,which then i emailed repti racks right away and asked why is it coming to me,they responded asap and told me it was due to the fact that i told them i would do a charge back because of the issue

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

YES I didn't say you said you would never refund Nick, I said you should have refunded him as soon as you decided the deal wasn't going to be with him.
I guess if you're still thinking of rerouting it back to Nick then that would be a reason not to have refunded, but how do you not know this by now? It's been in transit to you for several days?

i called ups since i found out about the re route,and they told me to wait until the package is delivered to see what my options are,i asked them if i could have it re routed again as i don't want the package but the rep told me i must wait for it to be delivered,i am still waiting for the delivery,suppose to be delivered today and then i can figure it out

 

[repti-racks]

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Wow, sorry I missed that O-o Thank you for the summary.

I went back and skimmed everything; I have to admit, if he ordered the cages in July and by December the vendor was saying they would have nothing to do with me because of a 3rd party sale and refused to even give photos of the product or a tracking number, I would be a little put out too And it sounds like the chargeback never happened, once tracking info was given?

I my understanding is repti-racks decided to reroute the cage from Nick to Almando because of the threatened chargeback, ( this post ) . Did they consult with Almando over this? Or did they suddenly change their tune from "Nick is the buyer now we will only deal with Nick" to "you are the legal buyer we will only ship to you"? That's pretty much on repti-racks if that's what went down.

But, it does sound like Almando is the one to beware of too, bragging over selling stolen software, flipping stuff (not illegal, just a pain in the neck), waffling on what he wants to do with this cage, and not refunding his 3rd party immediately when he decides to cancel the deal! Sounds like a big risk of a headache to deal with

Figured i though up a quick Recap as im sure most are dizzy with all the posts about almando and find it overwhelming to read all pages if havn't from the start.
The cage was ordered End of July approx 6 weeks after order was placed it was posted for sale on fauna and sold to nick Sept 12 i think? Im not sure what day the ad was started but was sold on Sept 12th? to nick.
We than was e-mailed by Almando that he resold the cage and asked to sent it to new buyer i than asked for an e-mail from nick stating he is on board with this to confirm."While this was sold to nick he was over seas so you know" nick e-mailed us he will return from over seas end of OCT. Several times through out NOV we e-mailed nick for his shipping address NO REPLYS till the same day Almando started this thread we all of a sudden get a reply back from nick Dec 5th i think. Nick really didn't seem concerned and said he didn't have a computer and gave us his address and a day or so after reply back from nick cage went out to nick and nick received his tracking #.

Now in between the start and middle somewhere many things were brought to my att by just a google search on him and random e-mails i got from others with links and info on what he has done to others and to be careful of him.Which is all posted here..

While in route to nick almando stated here about doing a charge back even after knowing it was going to nick so as per our merchant company i was instructed to stop package or re route it back and ship it to seller to protect us according to their terms of seller protection. Than it was re routed to almando to protect us as we didn't trust what he was or wasn't doing as his thoughts changed many times.This statement by almando of doing a charge back fraud did cause us to out of pocket a re routing charge and another $50 something out of pocket to have it go to almando which is arriving to him today wed 21th. We did contact nick along the way of all this going on with almando and only got 1 reply and didn't seem to concerned whats going on with his cage or who he paid.

Thanks

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

funny how a simple charge back can change a persons tone right away,maybe you should really not lie to customers on lead times next time steve and you won't have these issues again.i was more than nice with you from july when we spoke up until septemeber,i never once bothered you with non sense other than asking for a refund/partial refund when i decided enough was enough am i right?how would you like it if you choose a online dealer for a item and they promise you a lead time just for your sale,then you have the nerve to tell me check your website/youtube for lead times even tho you clearly gave me a 4 week lead time over the phone and told me your lead times was way down,which is why i ordered with you.

i have dealt with a few people online since being introduced to the bearded dragon world and i have yet to have a issue selling dragons/buying dragons from them,the only issue i ever had is since doing business with your company

 

[allamericanPD]

Dont worry Repti racks. You have done right from the beginning. This guy will go away dont worry. No one on here will ever sell to or buy from this guy. Karma will take care of him. He will disappear like most scams do over time

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

Dont worry Repti racks. You have done right from the beginning. This guy will go away dont worry. No one on here will ever sell to or buy from this guy. Karma will take care of him. He will disappear like most scams do over time

actually i got the cage sold already and person is coming once it arrives if i can't get it re routed so yea...

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

And yes i did own up to what i did in the past,i sold computer software and yes it was pirated but i don't regret it,i made a ton of money but all of my buyers were aware that it was pirated and they couldn't afford the actual software,i have then stopped doing that after i paid a cheap little 1500 dollar fine,you then try to throw my heatware feedback in my face which at the time the account was hijacked and when i found out it was it got suspended,locked,why would a seller all of a sudden scam when i had tons of great feedback selling thousand dollar pc parts,ebay feedback 100 percent which posted,and i have 2 sellers one from bd.org and one from another reptile forum which purchased bearded dragons off me with no issues at all..

and quite frankly to call this a scam is pretty stupid,repti racks got there money,nick has not got his product yet due to the issues but we spoke and he will be refunded or get the packaged re routed this week.

 

[repti-racks]

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funny how a simple charge back can change a persons tone right away,maybe you should really not lie to customers on lead times next time steve and you won't have these issues again.i was more than nice with you from july when we spoke up until septemeber,i never once bothered you with non sense other than asking for a refund/partial refund when i decided enough was enough am i right?how would you like it if you choose a online dealer for a item and they promise you a lead time just for your sale,then you have the nerve to tell me check your website/youtube for lead times even tho you clearly gave me a 4 week lead time over the phone and told me your lead times was way down,which is why i ordered with you.

i have dealt with a few people online since being introduced to the bearded dragon world and i have yet to have a issue selling dragons/buying dragons from them,the only issue i ever had is since doing business with your company

Actually your wrong you contact us several times going back and forth changing the size remember you stated it here.You purchased it through our web site and our cart wont let you go further in till you checked the box you read the terms which state all about time lead times in writting and in a video and why their not set in stone and we only approx the lead time to the best of our ability as we cannot predict the future in this biz thats why their approx" Due to past manufacturing we used causing many delays for us along the way we are now on with a new manufacture to meet out growing demands and a new lead time guarantee and policy is in play for 2012.

 

[Lucille]

i sold computer software and yes it was pirated but i don't regret it

That right there sums up the essence of who you are.