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Reptster.com experience with show sponsorship not good

Just so that everyone knows, I have put up the Supporter's page. You can see it by going HERE
Also, we have added the logo for Fauna on the front page of the site, and will be posting up a banner we will be designing on the Supporter's table at the show.
Thanks again all!

Kelly

For anyone that might have tried the Donate button before, we have that issue fixed.

Since at this point there is no other information specifically regarding our transaction with Mr. Young, I will be moving any updates and discussions regarding the show to the thread in the Shows and Events section. I want to make sure we keep this as on topic as possible, and we have already steered off course enough. Of course, if any information relevant to this thread comes up, we will post. If Mr. Young contacts us, we will make sure everyone is aware, and if a resolution is reached, we will of course update this thread.
See you all there, and around in other threads until then!

Kelly and Matthew
 
Are you talking about Terry, Bryon?
I believe he was Randal. Terry has done nothing but put Kelly down for her honest account of what transpired between her and reptster.

When the reptile community offered to help and step up to the plate, Terry seemed to have an issue with it?

True professionals would at least remaine silent if they disagreed with another show's way of getting sponsorship and promoting. Terry has shown this board more than a few times that he is not profesional on many levels.

gosh I miss spell check!!
 
Kelly & Matthew... You are not the only ones

We have been waiting for Mr. Young's response before posting the deal we had with him. I am not here to call names, insults, ect. Here is the deal we had:
Mr Young agreed to pay X amount of dollars for Tote Bag sponsor.
He would have a large screen print ad along with Repticon's Logo on the front of each Tote. He agreed to do this with a number of our shows for the same amount of dollars for each show.
He did pay for the first show (Ft Meyers ). The next couple of weeks was the Columbia SC show. Totes were printed with His ad on front as it was before with the promise from Mr. Young that payment would be coming shortly. Calls and emails were made with no response from Mr. Young asking for payment.
Payment never came after the Columbia show so we removed him from the Tote Bag.
The amount he agreed to pay us was way less than what he agreed to pay Kelly and Matthew.

Kelly I know everything you two are going through. I have been there with all the hurtles you have to jump, hills you have to climb.You are headed in the right direction. Keep your heads held high. Remember if we all work together the herp world will be better off!

Happy Herping Everyone!
Cathy Elrod
Member of the Repticon Team
 
I just got a call from David Young, and talked to him for quite a while. Now I do feel that this has been a real problem in communication. He told me that right after he agreed to send the check (at that point he thought he was sending it for $250), he found out that it was really supposed for $750, and that he backed out at that time. He says he thought he clearly backed out at that time, but obviously Kelly did not understand that or she would not have proceeded. I don't know who, if anyone, is at fault, but I am willing to believe at this point (after talking to him) that each party believed something different, and that David is very sorry for the misunderstanding.

As for the unprofessional post from David on this forum, he said he did not intend to offend anyone on this thread who was really trying to help resolve the problem. He really does like and appreciate the rest of the Fauna site, but has a real problem with the BOI. He admits that he let his feelings for the BOI get the better of his judgment in his post, and apologized for offending anyone who was really trying to help, rather than inflame the situation.

He said he will email the missing emails to me tomorrow, along with his explanation of events. If it is not against the rules here to post his email (third party email), then I will post them here. If it is against the rules, then I will email them to anyone who wants to see them.

I want to say that I still feel his post was unprofessional and unwarranted, and I told him that. But I do believe that there were extenuating circumstances and that there was no malicious intent in his handling of this situation, just carelessness and lack of thought at the time of posting. I truly believe that he will be much more careful in the future should he run into a situation like this. He does not want to post on this forum himself, but he is happy to talk to anyone individually who has questions.

Let me say that I do not expect anyone else to change their mind just on my say so from my own phone conversation. I am only posting this to publicly state that my own opinion has changed. I do not think David's conduct here was exemplary - far from it. But after talking to him, I don't feel his actions or intent warrant blackballing him either. I really think time will tell, as always. I am hoping that his great behavior in the future will eventually overcome this problem and that he get beyond it.

Kelly - I wish you the best in your show promotion and will send a donation in support.

David - I hope Reptster overcomes this bump in the road and goes on to become the star I was expecting.

I will let you all know when I get any emails from David.
 
Kathy, did he mention the other 3 complaints that are now posted against him?

I'm sorry, but a phone call to you doesn't make him look any better. He needs to address the FOUR complaints himself, here...AND post a public apology for his behavior. :NoNo:
 
The timing on the last two posts was a little unfortunate to say the least. This situation is apparently a bit of a pattern for David. Apparently his outing here on the current situation was sufficient to make him backpeddle a bitthere. It is definitely telling to now hear he has done this exact same thing to another show promoter.

Not good David
 
Thanks for posting that Kathy.. In my opinion if David was really sorry for the way things turned out he would have manned up and posted himself. To me it looks like Damage control. Using a well respected member of the herping community like yourself to apologize isn't showing me how sorry he is. Well I take that back it does show me he is a sorry businessman. I think many here have made up their own minds and will continue to spread the word about reptster. But thanks for posting..
 
I did not know about the one just posted, and didn't discuss the others, since the one at hand seemed the most important. My memory just isn't good enough to do more at once, lol!

I will see what the email(s) tomorrow have to say. I would really suggest anyone with questions to call David and talk to him to get answers directly. He says he does answer the shipping service line very promptly.
 
I just got a call from David Young, and talked to him for quite a while. Now I do feel that this has been a real problem in communication. He told me that right after he agreed to send the check (at that point he thought he was sending it for $250), he found out that it was really supposed for $750, and that he backed out at that time. He says he thought he clearly backed out at that time, but obviously Kelly did not understand that or she would not have proceeded. I don't know who, if anyone, is at fault, but I am willing to believe at this point (after talking to him) that each party believed something different, and that David is very sorry for the misunderstanding.

As for the unprofessional post from David on this forum, he said he did not intend to offend anyone on this thread who was really trying to help resolve the problem. He really does like and appreciate the rest of the Fauna site, but has a real problem with the BOI. He admits that he let his feelings for the BOI get the better of his judgment in his post, and apologized for offending anyone who was really trying to help, rather than inflame the situation.

He said he will email the missing emails to me tomorrow, along with his explanation of events. If it is not against the rules here to post his email (third party email), then I will post them here. If it is against the rules, then I will email them to anyone who wants to see them.

I want to say that I still feel his post was unprofessional and unwarranted, and I told him that. But I do believe that there were extenuating circumstances and that there was no malicious intent in his handling of this situation, just carelessness and lack of thought at the time of posting. I truly believe that he will be much more careful in the future should he run into a situation like this. He does not want to post on this forum himself, but he is happy to talk to anyone individually who has questions.

Let me say that I do not expect anyone else to change their mind just on my say so from my own phone conversation. I am only posting this to publicly state that my own opinion has changed. I do not think David's conduct here was exemplary - far from it. But after talking to him, I don't feel his actions or intent warrant blackballing him either. I really think time will tell, as always. I am hoping that his great behavior in the future will eventually overcome this problem and that he get beyond it.

Kelly - I wish you the best in your show promotion and will send a donation in support.

David - I hope Reptster overcomes this bump in the road and goes on to become the star I was expecting.

I will let you all know when I get any emails from David.


Wouldn't the "Third Party Rule" apply to this post :rolleyes:
 
If David could pick up the phone and call Kathy, David could pick up the phone and call Kelly.

I guess too I have a problem with people who have a problem with the BOI. It is what it is and there are some pretty rowdy people here at times but it is the ONLY large scale business assessment tool in the reptile industry, and protects both beginners and seasoned businesspeople alike from scammers and people who won't do what they have promised to do, by giving the reader a track record of the past transactions of particular businesses to make his/her choices with.

In all the exchanges throughout the threads here, the reader can pick out the truth for themselves and make their purchasing choices on the basis of their OWN opinion. Just as they will do here.
 
The timing on the last two posts was a little unfortunate to say the least. This situation is apparently a bit of a pattern for David. Apparently his outing here on the current situation was sufficient to make him backpeddle a bitthere. It is definitely telling to now hear he has done this exact same thing to another show promoter.

Not good David


Anyone wanna bet, that at least ONE more show promoter posts how great David's bussines ethics are :dgrin:
 
If David could pick up the phone and call Kathy, David could pick up the phone and call Kelly.

I agree Lucille. He still hasn't resolved the OP's complaint. Actually he hasn't even attempted to resolve it.
 
Kathy---You are one classy lady!

I can't imagine how uncomfortable of a position David Young put you in by calling you. I know I couldn't have posted an unbiased factual rundown like you did---just because some flailing business"man" called on the phone to toss the hot potato!

Also--this just in from Vegas---the over/under on Reptster is 98 days.
 
I thought the 3rd party might apply to emails, but not phone calls. However, I didn't look it up, so could be wrong. I am very sorry if I should not have posted. But I felt it was important to let people know what he said, even if it doesn't change anyone's mind. But if it is not allowed to post the emails tomorrow, I will just email them to those interested.

I am not sure what to say about the newest show deal gone bad - that wasn't there when I was writing my post. I will ask him. I am doing this for my own benefit, but would like to let others know so they can decide whatever they want to.

I am not trying to make any excuses for him - I definitely don't agree with his handling of the situation. However, I have seen good people handle some things badly at times, especially if there is some stress (maybe he had money problems? I don't know - he didn't say). I am not suggesting to give him a pass on the whole thing. I am only saying that I am not yet ready to tar and feather him as a bad guy - that a "wait and see" attitude may be in order.

Although I do see a lot of value in the BOI, there are a lot of good people out there who don't, and who really dislike it, and refuse to read it, or post on it. So avoiding the BOI alone is not the only reason to label him as a bad guy. I do admit that I AM letting my prejudice FOR David color my opinion somewhat. I am really HOPING and EXPECTING that he will turn out to be a GOOD GUY, even if he did mess up previously. All the phone conversation did was give me enough hope to let him prove himself, which I think he will do.
 
Kathy -- thank you for taking the initiative to do that :thumbsup: I think I am in the same boat as you are and I was hoping for a better resolution than what came. I do think Reptster glitches and all is an excellent service for the community. I was disappointed by Davids response but it is what it is. I hope that he will take this opportunity to make things right. I don't think this will be the end of Reptster just a small hurdle to get over. I'd be interested to see the emails if you don't post them.
 
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