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Reptster.com experience with show sponsorship not good

I feel you only want to hurt David,s business and you certainly have a crowd reading this.I do not have sponsers and I have links on my web site that I do not charge for and I pay for my own flyers.You sold high priced advertising to pay your own way.
 
Curious as to why you went ahead and did all the banners and the other things if you hadn't heard from him or received funds.
Your emails show you constantly trying to get money from him and getting no response which should've told you to slow down and don't do anything until you heard from him. A email saying check is in the mail is not something to hang your hat on.
You were on notice yet continued to ignore all the signs.
He finally said I'll send a check. Maybe you should've stop all advertising until you received funds.
I haven't seen any contract. It's just emails and nothing legally binding. I'm sure you know the reptile business is as cut throat as any business so signature on the dotted line should be required.
My opinion and my opinion only is there is no contract, which requires a meeting of the minds and I don't see it in this case therefore I don't know why he would come here to respond. :shrug01: ( i just like this smiley)
 
Thanks Joel,this is the reptile business if I ran to the B.O.I everytime someone failed to buy or send a check I would live here.
 
No one likes the car dealer who jacks up the price because it is in demand (Prius for example) but on the other hand no one is forcing anyone to buy a Prius. My point is I have bought snakes and paid a little more then I should have and once you add shipping it's really over priced but if I agree that is on me. I can't agree to buy, get the snake and say never mind or not pay. (I guess I could but I'm sure my name and my thieving ways would be posted all over Fauna *wink wink*)

Having links for free is a choice. David agreed to pay and that was his choice even if it was more than you or someone else would have paid for it. I don’t think anyone is out to get him. I think someone wants to get paid for an agreement David agreed to and now is hiding in the bushes hoping it goes away. By David not stepping up and at least giving his side only IMO makes him look guilty and if he does come on here and speak I only wonder if he took so long is because he was thinking of a guy way to save face with a good story… (My computer doesn’t work because my snake swallowed my computer mouse…)
 
Dixie Reptiles said:
Thanks Joel,this is the reptile business if I ran to the B.O.I everytime someone failed to buy or send a check I would live here.
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It's one thing to tell a breeder I will buy and never does but it's another thing to ship a snake and the buyer never pays. The advertising was done but payment wasn't made. Damn straight I would be a little upset too.
 
Terry, it appears as though you're running your own reptile show, and reptster is associated with it. If you disagree with the way Mr. Young is being portrayed then share your personal experience with us. Instead of defending him for reasons that are absolutely insane (the AGREED UPON price was too much, we haven't heard Mr. Young's side of the story, the reptile business is full of people that don't pay), why don't you explain why you have a different opinion of Mr. Young.

As of now, there could be a million acceptable reasons that Mr Young has not paid the $750. The fact that he has refused to post here in the BOI and that he refuses to communicate with Kelly in any way is where the real problem lies.
 
I feel you only want to hurt David,s business and you certainly have a crowd reading this.I do not have sponsers and I have links on my web site that I do not charge for and I pay for my own flyers.You sold high priced advertising to pay your own way.
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:bandhead0 Terry who cares what you do with your site? You're so hung up on how equitable the charges are that you don't seem to get the picture. David agreed to the charges so at one time he thought they were just. So right then it doesn't matter whether you thought they were just or not. You're not one of the parties and this thread isn't about the fairness of charges for show sponsership. If David thinks that this thread is unfair he should come here and state his case.
 
Terry

Whether or not the price was above market, David agreed to pay it. Kelly's method of running her shows apparently differs from yours.....so what? She sells advertising / sponsorships and you don't....so what. So far not a single one of your posts on this thread have really made any sense. Your objecting to her advertising philosophy is beyond irrelevant here. This is not a case of someone someone saying that they would take an animal and then flaking. This was acceptance of an ongoing service that took place over a couple of months. There is quite a difference.

Joel

I'm not quite sure where you acquired your legal acumen but a contract most definitely is in place here. Whoever told you it needs to be signed before it is valid is in error. It is always preferable but not necessary. Emails are most certainly binding just like any other written correspondence. A service was offered for a price and accepted. Approval of advertising was given by David. He even suggested a payment plan. Your assertion that Kelly should not have implemented the service till she was paid has a bit of merit but she apparently thought his word that payment was on the way was good enough. That was a mistake only in hindsight. When I am dealing with people whose word i think is good I generally extend trust till there is a reason not to.

David definitely needs to respond. You two seem to be his only defenders here.
 
Kingetula said:
It's one thing to tell a breeder I will buy and never does but it's another thing to ship a snake and the buyer never pays. The advertising was done but payment wasn't made. Damn straight I would be a little upset too.
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Who ships reptiles or anything else without getting paid first? :shrug01:

According to the emails she kept emailing and emailing and emailing an still no response.. That to me says he is no longer interested for whatever reason..
No offense but just seems pushy and like a phone solicitor that won't stop calling after you ignored the first few calls.

It was at least a month between contacts or something like that.. So why would anyone do all that advertising with out getting paid, heck at least a deposit? :shrug01:

I don't know either party but I just don't see why he would or should come here to defend himself. So he comes and responds.. I guarantee there will be a bunch more questions and this will drag out to 80 pages of back and forth..
That is why people sign contracts to avoid these situations.. :thumbsup:
 
I did not see an e-mail where David agreed to anything,very onesided, but this is the dogpack of the B.O.I . If my posts do not make sense to you stop reading them.
 
Suncoast Herpetological said:
Terry

Whether or not the price was above market, David agreed to pay it. Kelly's method of running her shows apparently differs from yours.....so what? She sells advertising / sponsorships and you don't....so what. So far not a single one of your posts on this thread have really made any sense. Your objecting to her advertising philosophy is beyond irrelevant here. This is not a case of someone someone saying that they would take an animal and then flaking. This was acceptance of an ongoing service that took place over a couple of months. There is quite a difference.

Joel

I'm not quite sure where you acquired your legal acumen but a contract most definitely is in place here. Whoever told you it needs to be signed before it is valid is in error. It is always preferable but not necessary. Emails are most certainly binding just like any other written correspondence. A service was offered for a price and accepted. Approval of advertising was given by David. He even suggested a payment plan. Your assertion that Kelly should not have implemented the service till she was paid has a bit of merit but she apparently thought his word that payment was on the way was good enough. That was a mistake only in hindsight. When I am dealing with people whose word i think is good I generally extend trust till there is a reason not to.

David definitely needs to respond. You two seem to be his only defenders here.
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I said it was my opinion and please quote where I said I was a lawyer. :NoNo:
If I wanted legal advise i would ask my father.
So what are you doing? Defending the other person involves so that somehow makes you right? If 5 people defend someone then everyone else is wrong my bad..
You seem to take the tone of trying to be a smart (insert). Do you see anywhere that I belittled anyone posting to this thread? So why do you feel the need to "try"? Does that some how make you right (don't think so)?
Like I said in a earlier post he doesn't have to explain anything if he chooses not to.. If he comes and says what he has to I can bet you would still continue on your little witch hunt (I know you wouldn't lol)..
You can trust all you want and get burned all you want I don't care one way or another. A contract won't prevent that either but you can take it to court and hope to get a judgement. Take that page of emails to court when all it shows is one person trying to get a response and not getting one until late in the game which wouldn't give me confidence that we have a meeting of the minds.
I will stop so that this can continue unless another suncoast tries to be a smart (insert) for speaking and not agreeing with his way of thinking. Dang I should've agreed with the side who has the most people..
 
jusmebabee said:
It was at least a month between contacts or something like that.. So why would anyone do all that advertising with out getting paid, heck at least a deposit? :shrug01:
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It's Kelly's first show and she is probably sitting on the edge of her bed every night counting all the things she has to make sure of when she gets up in the morning. She's excited and wants things to go well so that this can be a reliable, regular show with a satisfied vendor/customer base.

She took someone at their word and upheld her part of the agreement above and beyond the call IMO. If David no longer felt sponsorship was a viable idea, for whatever reason, then all he had to do was type one or two sentences into his blackberry stating that fact and we wouldn't be reading this.

Most folks are okay with someone saying "Hey, I'd like to do that, but upon further consideration I fell I no longer can".

It would have been just that simple.

It still can be.
 
Keep it civil please. Calling each other a pack of dogs or being derogatory in any way towards someone else here because their opinion is different from yours is not needed nor welcome.

Who ever (in a plural sense) cannot keep it civil and wants to escalate the inter-member conflicts will be evicted from the field for a few days so they can cool down somewhat. :NoNo:
 
Dixie Reptiles said:
I did not see an e-mail where David agreed to anything,very onesided, but this is the dogpack of the B.O.I . If my posts do not make sense to you stop reading them.
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One of the reasons that the BOI exists is so both parties can state their side of the story. I know that in many instances, people here have jumped to conclusions based on only a few facts. In this circumstance, however, I believe that most have withheld judgment and were hoping to see David attempt to rectify or explain his side of the situation.

David has had numerous opportunities to contact Kelly privately prior to this thread being made. He also has the opportunity to share his side of the story within this thread. I encourage him to respond to this thread or contact Kelly privately in order to resolve this issue. If he continues to remain silent, then our only choice is to assume the worst. I hope that this situation turns out well for both parties, and the chance is still there for that to happen. The worst possible outcome is that David continues to remain silent.
 
jusmebabee said:
I said it was my opinion and please quote where I said I was a lawyer. :NoNo:
If I wanted legal advise i would ask my father.
So what are you doing? Defending the other person involves so that somehow makes you right? If 5 people defend someone then everyone else is wrong my bad..
You seem to take the tone of trying to be a smart (insert). Do you see anywhere that I belittled anyone posting to this thread? So why do you feel the need to "try"? Does that some how make you right (don't think so)?
Like I said in a earlier post he doesn't have to explain anything if he chooses not to.. If he comes and says what he has to I can bet you would still continue on your little witch hunt (I know you wouldn't lol)..
You can trust all you want and get burned all you want I don't care one way or another. A contract won't prevent that either but you can take it to court and hope to get a judgement. Take that page of emails to court when all it shows is one person trying to get a response and not getting one until late in the game which wouldn't give me confidence that we have a meeting of the minds.
I will stop so that this can continue unless another suncoast tries to be a smart (insert) for speaking and not agreeing with his way of thinking. Dang I should've agreed with the side who has the most people..
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Joel

I never said you were a lawyer. I said you were trying to make an uninformed opinion sound like you were speaking from legal experience. If you took my post as an attempt to belittle you you have pretty thin skin. I simply pointed out a couple of points on which you were incorrect. I have absolutely no issue with differing opinions and no interest in belittling you or anyone. I simply dislike blatantly incorrect statements being presented as fact.

I'm getting the feeling that neither you nor Terry has actually read the Email exchange. A large part of this transaction was by phone as well according to the OP. David can refute or contest that if he wishes but the Emails are pretty cut and dried.
 
Dixie Reptiles said:
I did not see an e-mail where David agreed to anything,very onesided, but this is the dogpack of the B.O.I . If my posts do not make sense to you stop reading them.
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I agree completely Terry...very one sided....that's why it behooves David to offer the other side.
 
jusmebabee said:
Who ships reptiles or anything else without getting paid first? :shrug01:
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To unknown individuals? No one I know. But between professionals in the industry and other known individuals, breeders and retailers it happens all the time Joel.
 
Well, I have to weigh in here, as I promote shows.
From what has been posted, is it very one-sided.
However, IF there WAS an agreement for "said" sponsorship/promotion, then I side with the OP. Show promoters lay out a lot of advance money for printing, radio, etc. and count on that money coming in.

I, along with everyone else here, (except for a few), would like to here from Reptster.com.
 
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