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Bad Guy Richard Gary Williams (roach 75) Mites Come Free!!!

Show Me said:
Richards lies have got me in a rock and hard spot since I do not want a Spider that eats African soft furred rats.
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I'll shoot you a PM of how to get the switched over. It will take some time, but if you work hard at it, I think it will help you. I also breed my own rodents.

Sorry to get off subject, just wanted to help out a fellow BP lover!

Trey Jackson
 
Yes i was wrong i will clearly say im sorry for the misunderstanding of which of the spiders was sent to you. But yes he did make the mistake shame on him for not paying attention. But on the other hand he followed all the proper procedures (refunding you the shipping cost, giving you a $100 for mite treatment, and best part of all for the inconvenience offered you a spinner your choice male or female). Yes he slipped lack of caring or whatever you want to call it in your terms he still made it up to you fully!. But yet you are throwing a terrible name out for a guy who has had plenty of great sales go through and as you saw earlier happy customers that WILL buy from him again is just plain childish. you are the first complaint. Everybody wants to know on here whos good and whos bad to buy animals from. But you have taken it way out of line, boi prob nessecary but to post it on all his posts.......... do you not have anything better to do really?. I will say just as im reading and the way you are handling the situation I would never sell to you id be scared i didnt put enough tape on the box or something and you will throw it out of proportion. Not one person will disagree he was in the wrong but again i will say he solved your problems and yet you are still doing this. How many people are reading and finding this to be childish?. again you are 100% right thats not the way a transaction should be taken care of but if you were blown off for 3 days as you claimed right then and there there should have been a red flag and canceled the transaction, and again when you recieved the box you did not call him to arrange a refund, again you took the problem into your own hands therefor you found it to be a wrong doing by him but something that wasnt that big of a deal. So he payed for your mite spray, payed for shipping cost and offered you more. So why is there a need to post all this on his adds (to warn potential customers?). Even if he did ship out animals like that again at least he makes up for it. But most people would send it right back. And regaurding the bounced check........he got you the money in the long run right?. So if he is that bad of a guy to do business with dont deal with him write your boi and leave it at that. And as far as my morals every animal i have posted on this website has been sold to a very happy customer and 90% said it exceed there expectations. And noone had these kind of issues. But its real nice of you to think of me that way. Bottom line deal is done you didnt send it back and he payed for his mistake. So drop it!

But i got to ask being that its two months later why are you still dragging this on and id like to know how do you control mites on your rodent barns? Because its all to funny that its brought up this late in the game and not right when it happened so being the case whos to say that there wasnt just one or two mites and your pics are from your own rodents at a later date?
 
Yes i was wrong i will clearly say im sorry for the misunderstanding of which of the spiders was sent to you. But yes he did make the mistake shame on him for not paying attention. But on the other hand he followed all the proper procedures (refunding you the shipping cost, giving you a $100 for mite treatment, and best part of all for the inconvenience offered you a spinner your choice male or female). Yes he slipped lack of caring or whatever you want to call it in your terms he still made it up to you fully!. But yet you are throwing a terrible name out for a guy who has had plenty of great sales go through and as you saw earlier happy customers that WILL buy from him again is just plain childish. you are the first complaint. Everybody wants to know on here whos good and whos bad to buy animals from. But you have taken it way out of line, boi prob nessecary but to post it on all his posts.......... do you not have anything better to do really?. I will say just as im reading and the way you are handling the situation I would never sell to you id be scared i didnt put enough tape on the box or something and you will throw it out of proportion. Not one person will disagree he was in the wrong but again i will say he solved your problems and yet you are still doing this. How many people are reading and finding this to be childish?. again you are 100% right thats not the way a transaction should be taken care of but if you were blown off for 3 days as you claimed right then and there there should have been a red flag and canceled the transaction, and again when you recieved the box you did not call him to arrange a refund, again you took the problem into your own hands therefor you found it to be a wrong doing by him but something that wasnt that big of a deal. So he payed for your mite spray, payed for shipping cost and offered you more. So why is there a need to post all this on his adds (to warn potential customers?). Even if he did ship out animals like that again at least he makes up for it. But most people would send it right back. And regaurding the bounced check........he got you the money in the long run right?. So if he is that bad of a guy to do business with dont deal with him write your boi and leave it at that. And as far as my morals every animal i have posted on this website has been sold to a very happy customer and 90% said it exceed there expectations. And noone had these kind of issues. But its real nice of you to think of me that way. Bottom line deal is done you didnt send it back and he payed for his mistake. So drop it!
 
tim m wrote:
By the way that spider has no eatting problems, it eats african soft furred rats.
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So are your are you trying to say you feed me a line of crap? You and Richard seem so alike, always changing your story.
 
I don't care how many good deals he has done, he darn well KNEW he sent me mite covered snakes and that makes him a crappy breeder. IT WAS NO MISTAKE HE WANTED MY MONEY AND PROBABLY THOUGHT I WOULD BE EASY TO PULL ONE OVER ON. Big mistake. The only reason I played it cool for a while is because I'm smart enough to know that if I kept saying what I really thought about him he wouldn't refund me. I got my refund so now he can deal with what I give out. LOL
 
Oh and I did try and contact him on the day I got he snakes (June 17 th) , I tried calling and I also emailed him on the day I got them. He finally got back with me on June 24. Boy he really keeps up with his costumers after shipping. LMAO
 
no line of crap he still has the 2500g spider i sold him eatting asf rats. You are new to the game with no posts other than a wanted add. This isnt a social meeting like your making it to be. Everyone who is on this website who really deals with reptiles are very familiar with mites, so to say hes a poor breeder....you have breed what exactly....and you dont have treatment for mites on hand...and you didnt know that upon arrival your animal should be inspected for mites,ri, proper weight, making sure the box was setting up according to the weather conditions. Before any snake is put into a quarentine room it should be sprayed for mites whether or not you see any. YOU OPENED THE BOX AND YOU WERE UNHAPPY! refund..anyone in there right mind that is. And yet have you toldany of us as a rodent breeder what the proper stuff is to provent mite on rodents... I think your just lost personaly not having mite spray on hand when recieving an animal. You have gone out of your way to aggravate people you got what you want. you got your money you got your snakes lol and best you got mite spray for the future. What else do you need?. You made this problem for yourself and you accepted to take resonsibility the problem. DEAL WITH YOUR ACTIONS. Again he was in the wrong but your the bright one who said ok cool ill keep the snakes so where in the world do you have room to complaine?
 
And your snakes are poss gravid (wrapping there water bowls) no shi** there not eatting. go look on her page every one as she post a boi asking what mite spray wont kill the eggs from these snakes. You are so sour woman i dont know if its your looks and thats why your unhappy or you live where you have nothing better to do. I find this funny, someone give me attention this man sold me 2 gravid snakes a pastel and a spider the spider has been breed only to the calico and he also sent me a calico. they had a few mites on me and his social skills arnt there but i got him to refund the mite money and i got him to refund the shipping money. but someone please give me attention i have nothing better to do and i want everybody to hate this man even though he did the best to correct his wrong doing...gravid pastel and spider and a baby calico no s*** you didnt want a refund for $1400. my point is done ive got better things to do.. live your unhappy life. cant wait to hear she killed the eggs everyone thats the next 12 page boi on richard looking forward to it!
 
He didn't answer my calls or emails for SEVEN days. After seven days of treatment and the fact he can't be trusted there was no way I was going to send them back without being refunded first. Oh and I did have mite spray on hand it turned out to be a crappy product, see I didn't know it was a crappy product because before this I only got mite free snakes from breeders so I never had to try it out.

And yet have you toldany of us as a rodent breeder what the proper stuff is to provent mite on rodents
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What the *** are you trying to say?

I love how you are trying to put the blame on me for receiving mite covered snakes, cracks me up. LOL

And yes this site is a social meeting place, I've made plenty of friends and meet some great breeders. Sorry no one wants to play with you.
 
tim m said:
no line of crap he still has the 2500g spider i sold him eatting asf rats. You are new to the game with no posts other than a wanted add. This isnt a social meeting like your making it to be. Everyone who is on this website who really deals with reptiles are very familiar with mites, so to say hes a poor breeder....you have breed what exactly....and you dont have treatment for mites on hand...and you didnt know that upon arrival your animal should be inspected for mites,ri, proper weight, making sure the box was setting up according to the weather conditions. Before any snake is put into a quarentine room it should be sprayed for mites whether or not you see any. YOU OPENED THE BOX AND YOU WERE UNHAPPY! refund..anyone in there right mind that is. And yet have you toldany of us as a rodent breeder what the proper stuff is to provent mite on rodents... I think your just lost personaly not having mite spray on hand when recieving an animal. You have gone out of your way to aggravate people you got what you want. you got your money you got your snakes lol and best you got mite spray for the future. What else do you need?. You made this problem for yourself and you accepted to take resonsibility the problem. DEAL WITH YOUR ACTIONS. Again he was in the wrong but your the bright one who said ok cool ill keep the snakes so where in the world do you have room to complaine?
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Are you actually serious with this crap you are spewing forth? Or do you just like to see words you type on-line? How can you possibly construe this to be HER FAULT??

I think you bent over a bit too much....your bias is showing.:eek:

I hope you like the negative attention this thread is now drawing to......YOU.:thumbsup:
 
If it'll help any, I can send you a bag full of dirty soft fur bedding to help get them switched over. Please PM if you'd like me to get that out to you.

Please tell us that you've sexed them, or had them sexed? After everything else, I'd definitely make that a priority.
 
tim m said:
And your snakes are poss gravid (wrapping there water bowls) no shi** there not eatting. go look on her page every one as she post a boi asking what mite spray wont kill the eggs from these snakes. You are so sour woman i dont know if its your looks and thats why your unhappy or you live where you have nothing better to do. I find this funny, someone give me attention this man sold me 2 gravid snakes a pastel and a spider the spider has been breed only to the calico and he also sent me a calico. they had a few mites on me and his social skills arnt there but i got him to refund the mite money and i got him to refund the shipping money. but someone please give me attention i have nothing better to do and i want everybody to hate this man even though he did the best to correct his wrong doing...gravid pastel and spider and a baby calico no s*** you didnt want a refund for $1400. my point is done ive got better things to do.. live your unhappy life. cant wait to hear she killed the eggs everyone thats the next 12 page boi on richard looking forward to it!
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The pastel is 100% not gravid and never was (then again he did tell me she was bred to a fire male and that could make fireflys right? huh he has baby fireflies for sale right now...I wonder, maybe that's why he delayed shipment...) and the spider I'm still not sure about but I don't think she is now. I think maybe she was wrapping around the water bowl to relieve the itching from the mites? I'm not sure I've never had a clutch yet so I do not know.

Yes I would like a refund I'm more than willing to send them back if I get my refund first since I don't trust him, and he never offered to take them back in the first place!!!!
 
Shadera said:
If it'll help any, I can send you a bag full of dirty soft fur bedding to help get them switched over. Please PM if you'd like me to get that out to you.

Please tell us that you've sexed them, or had them sexed? After everything else, I'd definitely make that a priority.
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I tried to sex the baby calico by popping and I think it's a female but I have no experience at it and I don't know any breeders close to me to show me the ropes and the ones I do kind of know I don't want to ask because I don't want to be a burden. I've watched a lot of videos on it. The two older ones I got from him I was afraid to do it to since I didn't want to stress them if there was a possibility of them being gravid plus I haven't bought probes and I know adults aren't easy to pop. :( I guess it's time to beg for someone to teach me.

I don't know if I need the fur or not. They keep changing what she eats on me. I will let you know if I need it, I found someone a hour and a half away that breeds ASF's so I got a place to go know if I need to. Thank you for your kind offer, it put a big smile on my face!
 
So for all my bad spelling and grammer mistakes I'm drinking beer and it's starting to have a effect. LOL
 
Chirstina thanks for posting this about Richard williams i will never buy from him! and simple stuff you posted Tim m makes me to think you are a good buddy of his or the same person!!!
 
I have never sent out an animal with out it being tip top shape. And it being know what the animal is currently feeding on. I am not saying one bit it is her fault he was totally in the wrong. But she did not take the proper action upon arrival of the “unhealthy” animals. Simply to avoid this whole head ache a refund should have been arranged. I do not in any which way find it to be acceptable to be shipping animals out like that. All n all though for her sake if the deal seems to be too good to be true it probably is. With a three day hold and he has not shipped the animals. Its not a good sign. I am NOT in favor for what he did and his actions, and I will not sit here and try to justify them. IT IS NOT RIGHT SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE RECEIVED HER ANIMALS LIKE THAT WHETHER OR NOT TO GOOD TO BE TRUE!. But I guess the part that is getting me is there is 5000 views on this. I think it her speaking up is great but the fact is you do not know some ones financial situation. He sent you two gravid females the money was needed. That is quiet apparent to all of us here. He had realized his mistakes whether or not he knew he still refund the x amount of your problem and as an inconvenience to you he had offered you a free snake of no charge. So all an all he did screw up and very poor judgment on his behalf but you did not want to return the snakes. So he did work out with you a way to fix this problem. And that was refunding you the money. Again there is no problem with this thread being written I agree with it, but you are leaving out that he did in fact get with you to solve this issue. Now your mites are gone the boi is up but like I said the part that gets to me yea you are right there are no excuses for what he did but this man has done plenty of very successful trades/sales. He screwed up big time on this one not because it was you just because of the sake of the animals. But why is it that every post he has had she needs to write don’t buy from him he is horrible watch for mites as if all his snakes have it. Chances are if they were as bad as they were in the pics they probably are. Richard isn’t the type to let that go on when notice from my personal experiences. I think it was a lack of paying attention to putting the snakes in the bag to be shipped, but there’s no need for this to be placed on every add of his when it should be left in the boi. Christina I am very sorry this happened to you I will say non the least I feel your anger and frustration it has happen to me before where ive got the bad end of the stick. But in a positive note you did in the end get at the very least what you were asking of him to correct the problem. You are a trader rated person a simple rating upon his profile will go a long way. Again sorry that happened to you and no need to for the African soft furred stuff that was an honest mistake on my behalf. AND NEXT TIME SEND THEM BACK AND SAVE YOURSELF A HEADACHE!
 
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