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Info [email protected] IS NOT Rich Kedzierski

allreptiles1966 said:
Oh boy. I know that Gratiot address but i cannot find it in my emails.I also think that the address in the boi somewhere. I believe one of "Chris Taylor/David Zachary" wanted me to send the Sunglow i got ripped of on to that address! I do not know how to get back all the emails from my email account! Can anyone tell me? I know this is the address!! I even looked at my paypal account for the monies i paid to SYR to ship the free Sunglow to chrios Taylors "cancer daughter" But i cannot find it.
I will go to my account to see where the shipment went to.but i think i sent it to The Saginaw address,his moms was the Gratiot address.
Back when i first met Chris Taylor he said he was Very Good friends with you Rich.He was using you as a reference,i emailed you about the reference he was claiming and you never responded.
Once again-i'll bet $ this address(gratiot) is something to do with Chris Taylor/David Zachary!
If anyone can tell me how to get back my emails from March-June.i can find that Gratiot address!
Sorry i have to get into this once again.You can look at the Mike Masters and Chris Taylor/David Zachary story in the boi.
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So I did go through the Chris Taylor thread --

I found this address:

Chris Taylor or Amy Taylor
7889 gratriot rd apt a
Saginaw mi 48609


Although the street name is the same -- Gratiot -- the cities and zip codes are different. Google maps says the two addresses are about 111 miles/two hours from one another. Not proof one way or the other, for sure, and it certainly is weird for such a distinctive street name to be in play, though. But it isn't the same address.
 
Maybe i made an error.
Here is where i sent the sunglow to him in Mi. Spelling is very close and i thought i new the name.Sorry if i confused things.

Ship From
Richard peterson


Ship To
Chris Taylor
7889 Gratriot rd
apt A
Saginaw, MI 48609
989-475-3387
 
I'll go ahead and add to this....
I was contacted by [email protected] on Saturday at 11:43am via e-mail regarding my posting for my butterbee female i have listed on the ads for Trade/Sale. In my ad i state the things i am interested for in a trade, one of which include a 0.1 BEL. I clearly state in my posting that i prefer to keep this local for now. I was a little suspicious of the e-mail because i remember seeing one of the pictures that were attached once before but i don't remember it being posted by Rich at all. The next thing i remembered was that Rich posted on facebook not too long ago about someone creating an email address using hotmail and posing as him. The moment i saw that it was the hotmail address that i was contacted from, i felt it was only right to contact Rich and let him know what was going on. I googled Richs website and got his contact number. I called Rich once i got out of work. I explained to Rich the details of the e-mail and how he wanted me to pursue this, if at all. He asked me to do him the favor and go along with it as best as i could and try to get an address. I went ahead and did what was asked for me for the main purpose of having this all come to an end. I didn't want someone else to get a similar e-mail and actually send out their snake first as was requested and get scammed. The following e-mails are being posted below word for word including the headers of the conversations that took place between myself ([email protected]) and ([email protected]) up until today.

I captured the images from my screen as i did not want to download them from the email.


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To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Butter Bee
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Hey I saw your ad on Fauna and that is a nice looking BB you have. I have a=
2011 BEL female Mojo x Lesser I could part with. This girl hasn't refused =
a meal and is growing great. She hatched out on 06.13.11 and is now at a ni=
ce 381g. (Empty-As of 12.09.11).
I would like to say now that I will not be comfortable shipping first. I ha=
ve a great reputation and could give you as many references as you want. If=
you might be interested or have any quesrions please email me back anytime=
. I have attached a couple pictures of her as well.=20
First Picture: Hatchling photo Taken 06.14.11
Second Picture: Using flash. Taken 11.31.11Third Picture: No flash Taken 09=
.31.11
Thanks for your time=2C Rich=20


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The first picture is Super fire from Mike WIlbanks website.

Please post the other emails you recieved from them. As that one says it was emialed from NY

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IP Address: 69.201.130.178
Hostname: cpe-69-201-130-178.nyc.res.rr.com
IP Address Country: United States
IP Continent: North America
IP Address City Location: New York
IP Address Region: New York
IP Address Latitude: 40.8399,
IP Address Longtitude: -73.9422
Organization: Road Runner
ISP: Road Runner
 
On Dec 10 at 5:46EST, i emailed [email protected] the following:

Hey Rich,


Thanks for reaching out to me and considering the trade. That mojave lesser you have is exactly what i'm looking for. She looks GREAT!


I have always heard great things about you and your business. I had hope to one day do business with you. I have no problem shipping first as long as you'll be able to ship her out the following week once you get her.



I would definitely consider the trade as an even trade with each one of us covering our own shipping. I ship via shipyourreptiles. I'm only available to ship on Tuesdays for a Wednesday arrival to you. Likewise, i'm only available to accept packages on Tuesday.


I'd be able to ship her out to you as early as this tuesday(weather permitting).


Let me know
Javier
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This is the reply i got back at 6:40pmEST

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From: Rich Kedzierski <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Butter Bee
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:40:30 -0500
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Hey Javier=2C good to hear back from you. Thanks for the compliments=2C I t=
ry my best. I could ship the Bel to you anytime=2C so the following week wo=
uld work for me. I also use SYR and will insure the package. If you want to=
ship out Tuesday for a Wednesday arrival that work work just fine. I think=
we will just beat the cold so that would be great.=20
I am not sure if I will be at work on Wed or not so I will email you the ad=
dress once I speak with my boss about this coming week. I might need it shi=
pped to my home address or to the FedEx hub. Either way will be fine=2C I a=
m just not sure where yet. My schedule is all over the place during the hol=
iday season.=20
Let me know if this all sounds good with you and I will go ahead and plan o=
n speaking with you tomorrow or Monday.=20
Thanks=2C Rich
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I then replied back at 9:51pm EST

Hey Rich,


See if you can get back to me by tomorrow night just so I can have everything ready for Tuesday. Mondays tend to be a long day for me at work and I won't be getting back until around 10pm. I would have things completed by tomorrow night, rather than Monday.


Let me know.
Thanks,
Javier
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His reply back at 11:11pm EST

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Hey Javier=2C Sorry for the late response I made some dinner then watched a=
movie with my son. Anyway=2C I will be speaking with my boss first thing i=
n the morning so I will be able to let you know tomorrow for sure.=20
Have a good night=2C I will talk with you in the morning. Thanks=2CRich
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Reason he told you to stand by till next day was so he could run a reverse lookup on me online to fine my address, Which is impossible as im not listed.
 
Today i recieve this reply at 1:26pm EST

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Javier=2C I do have to work on Wed. but that doesn't affect anything. All i=
s good to go and I just fed the Bel today. I will not be feeding her again =
before I send her out so she should have a nice appetite for you.=20

The shipping info is Rich Kedzierski 1825 Kirkton dr. Troy=2C Mi 48083(517)=
945- 2118
Unfortunately I have to go into work this evening for a few hours and a ful=
l day tomorrow. I will keep in touch over the next few days and go ahead an=
d get all your info. If you would like to send your shipping info now that =
would work for me. I will also start getting things set up for shipment.=20
Thanks=2C Rich=20
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Thanks for posting all that information.

That number and address IDK anyone from either of them. I called the number but voicemail said Ryan, then female picked up baffled then hung up on me.

The address I dont know anyone in that area but one person which is Evan Stahl but thats it. So seems like its a random act to get a dummy address.
 
RichsBallPythons said:
Reason he told you to stand by till next day was so he could run a reverse lookup on me online to fine my address, Which is impossible as im not listed.
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That's where I'm confused -- what good does it do to have a random animal shipped to YOUR house? What does this guy get out of the scam, if he's not getting valuable stuff shipped to him and then failing to ship his end of the deal? What's his angle, I wonder?

(And wouldn't he realize he'd blow his cover if you suddenly got critters shipped to your house with no context, not expecting them, and suspect something was up?)
 
SirenSanJose said:
That's where I'm confused -- what good does it do to have a random animal shipped to YOUR house? What does this guy get out of the scam, if he's not getting valuable stuff shipped to him and then failing to ship his end of the deal? What's his angle, I wonder?

(And wouldn't he realize he'd blow his cover if you suddenly got critters shipped to your house with no context, not expecting them, and suspect something was up?)
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The address Could be real, and the person is not aware of this thread.

I almost want someone to ship something there and id be there for the package to watch it come off the truck in the morning. And be sure it was direct signature
 
RichsBallPythons said:
The address Could be real, and the person is not aware of this thread.

I almost want someone to ship something there and id be there for the package to watch it come off the truck in the morning. And be sure it was direct signature
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Oh, so the address this person gave is NOT your actual address. Gotcha, I was confused by the "trying to the reverse look-up your address" thing. Sorry!
 
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