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Rick Krumrine Reptiles--Rip Off

The rest of the story...

I must admit, I really don't enjoy dealing with issues in this type of forum but since some of you have decided to do so I am forced to correct some facts.

1. Danny, As I said on Sunday (8/24) I would paypal you your refund on Monday when I got home from work. I got home late that evening but I did indeed send you your refund. I got home today(8/26) to a phone message from you asking me to please send your money and upon checking my e-mail find that you have made this post. Have there been delays? Yes, but you failed to mention exactly what they were. When you sent me the payment you sent me a personal check which I normally don't accept but I guess I didn't make that clear before you sent it. No big deal. The problem occured when your check for the animals bounced. You would have had the animals long ago if not for this problem. This is not something you are unaware of, just failed to mentionin your post. You actually caused me to bounce 3 checks as well, not your responsibility but certainly your fault. After speaking to you about this and being quite flexible in my opinion, you then paypaled me the money and the deal was back on. As I recall, we could not come up with a suitable shipping date before you left for vacation and that we would discuss it when you returned. As you know, I was away for most of the next week on my own vacation after you returned as we spoke twice while I was away. Upon my return I said I would send you the money right away but after checking I was unable to do so, hence my e-mail to you stating I would do it last night , as I did. I tried to make myself as availabe as possible (you have my cell # as well) and just wish you would have just called me directly to voice your displeasure. In short, the problems in this deal were certainly not as one-sided as you have made them out to be.

2. Chris Kennard. Sorry to hear about the loss of your Jani. It has been quite some time since you got it but I wanted to express a few things to you. The reason I sold the snake was exactly as I told you. I actually raised her from a baby and she had been in my collectio for quite some time.I don't feel that telling you she double clutched the year before makes me dishonest, it's just an explanation of what had happened. I'm sure I told you she had bred before when you purchased her. I remember you calling and telling me she was having problems. I'm also sure I asked you quite a few questions regarding her condition as she was indeed healthy when I sold her. Perhaps she had been fed an unusually large meal..etc.... As to you question of why I would I would be willing to take the snake back and treat it is quite simple. I was offering to help, not admitting some sort of guilt. As you live somewhat in my vacinity and as most herpers know, a good reptile vet is hard to find, I thought a could simply save you the money and help as well. I wish you would have taken me up on it.Even after all this time I would be willing to work with you on resolving this issue if you are still interested. If so, you can contact me directly via my e-mail, [email protected]. Thanks

3. Gilbert Thompson. I think are the only person I have ever run across in 15 years in the business that I would absolutely refuse to do business with. If I had a dollar for every time you promised you were going to send animals or that money was on the way I could retire by now. I also don't appreciate hang up calls at 3:00 in the morning either as you have done on my cell and to my wife as well. I still have all your e-mails if you need me to refresh your memory as to all your promises to send money. I know at least 5 other people that have gotten the same lines from you, in fact they were nice enough to send me your e-mails to them. They were almost word for word with mine, lots of promises of money and then you never come through. You want me to post them too? Perhaps you should take a long look in the mirror before YOU criticize others. Oh did I miss something?? Federal offense??Anyway, never attempt to contact me again as your attempts will certainly go unanswered! I would advise others to do the same.

Hope I was able to clear a few things up.
 
Sorry Rick,
But there are many things YOU fail to mention. Such as...

1) Yes, I did have a problem with the check I sent you but I covered your expenses voluntarily to make up for it, even though you had initially expected me to cover the TOTAL cost of your combined bounced checks (which was double what I paid you)which was absolutely rediculous.

2) After this happened I IMMEDIATELY paypalled you the money for the snakes (on 7/27) and still did not hear from you for well over a week despite repeated phone calls and messages AFTER you recieved my money...see previous posts on this thread.

3) You promised to ship out the snake twice before but failed to do so and I never even recieved a phone call to say that the animals weren't coming. Twice I expected to recieve them only to be disappointed. I only found out on both occasions after repeated phone calls to you.

4) On the third attempt to ship, one of the snakes coincidentally "just died today" and you didn't call me to tell me until late in the day after the shipment was to be sent out.

5) Yes, you did indeed send me a refund...but only after the THIRD time I had to contact you regarding its status. Twice before you promised to send my refund and failed to do so and both of those times I had to contact you initially to find out you didn't send it. I even went so far as to send you a paypal request for money which was not answered for almost a week later.

I don't know what you consider responsible business practices but when I promise a customer an animal or a payment I deliver as expected...not excuses or miscommunications. Considering this deal was initiated in Mid-June 2 months is not an acceptable time frame.

I'm sorry Rick but I feel your business ethics are seriously lacking and I would defiitnely not recommend you to anyone.

Good luck.
 
Just FYI Rick..

Danny, As I said on Sunday (8/24) I would paypal you your refund on Monday when I got home from work. I got home late that evening but I did indeed send you your refund. I got home today(8/26) to a phone message from you asking me to please send your money

From paypal.com transation details...

Payment Received (ID #XXXXXXXXX)
Name: Miriam Krumrine (The sender of this payment is Verified)
Email: [email protected]
Email Address That Payment Was Sent to: [email protected]
Date: Aug 26, 2003
Time: 05:15:17 PST
Status: Completed

Tuesday morning does not equal Monday night ESPECIALLY after two empty promises of refunding my money...

Coincidentally, the payment occurred AFTER I posted details of our transaction on this foum....better luck next time.
 
Rick,
You never said a word before or during our transaction about that snake breeding let alone double clutching. Had I known that, I never would have purchased her. The only thing you told me was that it was thin due to brumation and the reason you were letting it go was because you lost the mate(escaped). It wasn't until a later phone conversation that you told me about the clutches. Also, I never attempted to feed that snake any "large" food items. The snake was clearly a regurger and that's why you let it go. Lastly, I clearly conveyed to you that I had a good vet that I was going to take the snake to and you didn't want me to do that. That seemed a little suspicious to me. I think you knew as well as I did the first week I had her that she wasn't going to make it. That's my opinion. I could be wrong, but I highly and sincerely doubt it. In any case, I appreciate your offer but I'll pass. Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me. I don't give second chances in this business. That's all I'm going to contribute to this matter. Take care.
 
Hello Rick,
I must admit you are right in one thing you said. That was in reference to buying animals from you. However, as you can see (months back) I have already been crucified for that and have mended my ways. I deserved the treatment I received on here for that. All a person can do is the best they can and improve themselves by admitting it and working on it. I will say I have never taken someones money and not sent their animals. I think that's where we differ. I have numerous people that can verify numerous great deals since I had a wake up call on the boi about flakeing out and following thru on purchases.
As far as, calling you up in the morning and hanging up. That is simply not true and you know it. In fact, I made every effort to appologize to you and you were to proud to accept. However, that is fine I know I have my heart in the right place now.
You can post whatever you like to get the heat off of you. However, I assure you those issues were already addressed months back as were these deals with friends of yours.
I will say I have never illegally sent animals to someone or kept their money/animals over a period of time, like you.
I do hope you work this out with others and everything makes a better turn for you. I also hope people are more forgiving of you than you were with me.
I really wish you nothing but the best. I only originally posted the truth about how I felt to your short comings.
JMHO!
Take care,
Gilbert Thompson
P.S. Sorry everyone for all the horrible spelling. I am in a rush.
 
rick the crosses are doing great thank you for the wonderful snakes and wonderful transaction cant wait to do some more business with you



ryan steele
 
Rick Krumrine + snakes = quality animals

I have done buisness with Rick and he has always been on the money. He is a stand up guy and his animals speak for them selves. He is also an accomplished breeder of venomous and non venomous snakes.
 
Rick Krumrine

Hello,
Does anyone live near Taneytown, Pa where Rick Krumrine lives or talks to him on a constant basis??
Was he at this past (10/18-19/03') Hamburg, Pa show???
Rick and myself have had an ongoing trade going on now for almost or around 2 years now. For the last 2 months, I've tried to get on clearing this up for good as there was way to much time involved in a couple of animals and cash.
In the last 2 months of e-mailing and calling him numerous times, I've only received 1 e-mail back from one of my first e-mails (about 2 months ago) trying to resolve this and he said he would get a MO out to me in about a week. Well, that week has been well over 2 months now and I still haven't received any money, animals, offers, e-mails, NOTHING!!!
Anyone with info on getting in touch with Rick would be great besides his e-mail, address, and phone since it's doing me personally no good at this point.

Ed Vellucci
 
I do know that he was at the Hamburg show and goes to just about all the local shows each month. That would be your best chance to get a hold of him.
 
FYI -- From someone who actually knows him

Here is my "two cents" ---
FOR FUTURE READERS TO THESE OLD 2003 POSTS................


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RE: To this 2003 post (and the other two like it...)
"..... I'm sorry Rick but I feel your business ethics are seriously lacking and I would defiitnely not recommend you to anyone....
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I just joined this site a few months ago. I was shocked to see negative things posted on this board about Rick Krumrine Reptiles. Actually more confused...

For anyone out there who is looking for REAL REFERENCES on Rick Krumrine Reptiles ... don't go by these three people.
(Sorry guys, but I have to say this)

I have known him for many years and consider Rick (and his wife Miriam) close friends. I helped him on and off for a couple years when he had his store. I even dated him for a year. I have also received reptiles from him in the past. I now live in AR and when ever I have questions about my reptiles, I contact him in PA. They visit me in AR every year.

If you want a TRUE reference just ask me -----------

He does not know I am posting this (and he would not return to this board because of these negative posts)
BUT, I know he would be the ONLY person I would EVER consider buying snakes from.
He is NOT a liar or a thief and he would NEVER intentionally try to decieve anyone. In fact, he goes out of his way to help people.

*** It is definately possible, last year, that YES there may have been some delays in shipping and/or refunding because of two HORRIBLE "personal issues" that took place in his life over several months. But, believe me, if you knew the situations, you would certainly understand.

My "two cents" is this ...
When you have been in the reptile business for 15 years and you have had thousands of HAPPY customers -- I guess you are bound to have a couple complaints along the way.

******* Take this as my TRUE advise from someone who ACTUALLY KNOWS HIM on both a business & personal level:


HE IS A GOOD GUY AND A VERY HONEST BREEDER / SELLER!
I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND ANYONE ELSE!
YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR PURCHASES!


PS: Rick & Miriam....If you ever log on here again & see this post --- I'm watching your back from AR. Luv ya guys! See ya soon!

Karen
 
I see, YOU are the only one who knows the truth right? So the problems that these other people had were their fault as Rick is just super and he wouldn't do anything wrong.

Personal issues mean nothing. If you take someone else's money for goods or services you follow through, it doesn't take hours to e-mail someone or pick up the phone. 5$ or 5000$, it's money that's hard earned and his customers deserve to know what's going on. It is great that he made right on these deals and it's great that he has people like you to defend him, but see what happens? These sort of threads wouldn't exist if people would follow through or at least make every effort to put their customers fears to rest. If they don't well there's always the BOI.


Take care,
Chris Marston
 
I have delt with Rick and his lovly wife on many deals... I bought my first 02 Male Albino Colombian and 2 possable het female from him back in March of last year... I just dropped 13 slugs from one of the female's(that was my fault to hot to cold you know boas), about 2 months later I picked up a nother posable het female, 4 to 5 months later I got 2 more female's I didn't even think twice about looking at them Rick said they were sweet so I bought the all... I fact I am in a deal for corns (Lavenders het Opal)to be deliverd to the Hamburg show in Aug... I have even been to there home with my better other half... On the lines of getting a hold of somedays are better then other BUT, I like no other person, sits by the phone waiting for it to RING... I will not think twice about buying anything from him in the FUTURE HANDS DOWN...

Travis VanZile
 
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