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sanity check: am I looking at an browned-out Axanthic of some kind?

deborahbroadus said:
Exactly! What I was trying to convey was that within the morph itself is so much variation (every morph, really) that there's no, "one picture identifies all." The guide that you pointed out is great, but it is a guide; the descriptions of any morph aren't "static" in real life.

I'm curious, too. The Het Red is (imo) among one of the more subtle morphs like the YB unless (as you noted) they have the "extreme" (guide example) coloration/pattern).

p.s. Both animals came from the same well-known breeder and both of them cost me a pretty penny.:)
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Yeah, i understand you completely- and what i said about your het red wasnt mean to sound like i was doubting what it was, more of to point out where I was going wrong... its just amazing how much they can indeed me varying. I guess I am relying too much on the obvious lookers and the guide and should be using them more as a tool to help.

cant wait tosee what pops out of the next bunch of eggs for the op's snake. :D
 
edf01 said:
Yeah, i understand you completely- and what i said about your het red wasnt mean to sound like i was doubting what it was, more of to point out where I was going wrong... its just amazing how much they can indeed me varying. I guess I am relying too much on the obvious lookers and the guide and should be using them more as a tool to help.

cant wait tosee what pops out of the next bunch of eggs for the op's snake. :D
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I can't either. I just have this nagging feeling in the back of my brain there is *something* there waiting for me to discover with this boy. I'd love to see if or what it is!

I hope I can get the girls to weight for this season. They weren't being fed often enough (the guy was getting rid of them because he couldn't afford upkeep, basically), so they're SUPER small for '08 animals, but they're slamming rats like no tomorrow for me. If I can't, I'll put him on an unrelated normal, anyhow.

I both love and hate the subtle morphs -_- I still can't pick out anything but the nicest YB's, and het reds seem equally hard to pick out anything bout the nicest.
 
dustinNMpythons said:
The break in the neck stripe doesn't have to be that extreme though and if you look in the first photo that girl does have a spot in the neck stripe. Just saying some of the examples aren't as extreme and it's usually when a het red is bred to a normal instead of a red axanthic to a normal. There's still a chance Diana, it just doesn't seem that likely without the squiggles.
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That's what half the fun is, for me, though, with crazy genetics like balls have -- seeing what a gamble might bring you. But with gambles, you have to lose some to win some :)
 
So here is a photo of his 4 known female offspring at the bottom of this frame, with an unrelated 100% het albino stretched across the top of the photo.
 

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Lots of variation in het reds, no doubt about that. :) My two het reds, which are definately het reds, look very different then the 'cinny' looking ones pictured. And yes, the are for sure het reds. ;) Very subtle morph and very, very hard to distinguish (at times). But, as far as the snake which started this thread, I do not see het red in it. Just because it has a black back, does not mean its het red. I would just see what it throws out and then go from there. There is so much variation with axanthics even that you could be right on it being axanthic. I would just line breed and see what happens. Good luck!
 
scratchypen said:
Lots of variation in het reds, no doubt about that. :) My two het reds, which are definately het reds, look very different then the 'cinny' looking ones pictured. And yes, the are for sure het reds. ;) Very subtle morph and very, very hard to distinguish (at times). But, as far as the snake which started this thread, I do not see het red in it. Just because it has a black back, does not mean its het red. I would just see what it throws out and then go from there. There is so much variation with axanthics even that you could be right on it being axanthic. I would just line breed and see what happens. Good luck!
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Yeah, I really don't know what's going on with him, except that he looks just... slightly weird to me, and so do his daughters. Only time will tell :)
 
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