Bad Guy SCAMMER!!! Jay Mcnight / Jason Ciconne/ Franklin Chams Chams/SCAMMER

[ElexisC]

You couldn't even wait for me to finish. WOW!! So now you have already seen these texts??? So why did you care if I posted them. Why did you push me to post them.
Look I don't have anything to hide. Now elexis go cross examine Julia or Jay.

I believe I already explained why in that post you quoted...

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[ElexisC]

For someone who is in the business of buying and selling animals, I am also surprised there is not an unboxing video … or there is & it refutes what they are saying.

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Julia, how was the other money sent? Money orders (it will have been 3 if the total was $1050) or wire transfer?

I don't understand why you would send money that way without keeping proof, nor why when you paid the others by PP.

I said the same thing farther back, if only they did an unboxing video it would really prove their case, I have received 3 packages with snakes, I didn't go an unboxing video but that was back in 2014 and hadn't yet really got my feet wet with the whole buying and selling online thing. Some people don't do unboxing video but I believe I will start from now on because things like this thread are becoming too common

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[Craig Wyatt]

It was worth your time to talk smack about me here, but not now that I've responded. Got it. Back on topic, yes?

Thank you for not being scared of elexis. I've seen her post like 50 million other times. She always defends the bad guys.
I remember a post not to long ago about her holding onto a bunch snakes for a friend then when it came time to give them back she demanded money for food. Which was never discussed because you were just helping out a friend in need at the time. Great friend you turned out to be!!!
Sorry I got a little off topic. These texts are from the moment he contacted me about this deal that is being discussed now. Nothing I mean nothing was left out.
By this point it's obvious to 99.9% of you. But there's always that one that needs a little more. I hope this little more was good enough for you.

 

[zeppelin3k]

For someone who is in the business of buying and selling animals, I am also surprised there is not an unboxing video … or there is & it refutes what they are saying.

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Julia, how was the other money sent? Money orders (it will have been 3 if the total was $1050) or wire transfer?

I don't understand why you would send money that way without keeping proof, nor why when you paid the others by PP.

There's no receipt because it never happened. The fact that he paid with 2 separate credit cards tells me he that he maxed at least one of them out. People with maxed out credit cards don't have a grand in cash.

 

[ElexisC]

Thank you for not being scared of elexis. I've seen her post like 50 million other times. She always defends the bad guys.
I remember a post not to long ago about her holding onto a bunch snakes for a friend then when it came time to give them back she demanded money for food. Which was never discussed because you were just helping out a friend in need at the time. Great friend you turned out to be!!!
Sorry I got a little off topic. These texts are from the moment he contacted me about this deal that is being discussed now. Nothing I mean nothing was left out.
By this point it's obvious to 99.9% of you. But there's always that one that needs a little more. I hope this little more was good enough for you.

Wow. Way to spin that. You have just lost all credibility. She freaked out on ke because of what her husband did, then said if I tried to keep them she would ruin me. Then told me to keep them. I took care of those snakes for a friend for NINE MONTHS FOR FREE so when she flipped out, I said ok from hear on out I want to be paid for the food I personally breed and feed to those snakes, they left my care in awesome condition and she still tried to go around and say I gave them mites when I have confirmation from Keith none had them.

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[ElexisC]

I posted to the boi for advice on what to do. Got accused of trying to keep them which I didn't. I also tried to give her 3 back over the summer but she said no and you know what she did? Bought new animals. Flaunted them in my face and I still bit my tongue and took care of them until she went bat crap crazy on me and i came for help.

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[ElexisC]

But what a way to take the attention off of you and put it on me with your made up version of that thread.

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[Craig Wyatt]

Wow. Way to spin that. You have just lost all credibility. She freaked out on ke because of what her husband did, then said if I tried to keep them she would ruin me. Then told me to keep them. I took care of those snakes for a friend for NINE MONTHS FOR FREE so when she flipped out, I said ok from hear on out I want to be paid for the food I personally breed and feed to those snakes, they left my care in awesome condition and she still tried to go around and say I gave them mites when I have confirmation from Keith none had them.

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Yeah yeah. Every story has 2 sides. I read hers too!!!! That's why I said what I said.
Jason Ciccone aka Jay McKnight aka Jay Sick ripped me off for $950. There's no way to spin it. You can try as hard as you want. I'm cool with 99.9999999% knowing the truth.

 

[bcr229]

There's no receipt because it never happened. The fact that he paid with 2 separate credit cards tells me he that he maxed at least one of them out. People with maxed out credit cards don't have a grand in cash.

I will agree with this. Since they claim to have a small business - as shown in the texts posted by Craig during the issues with running the credit cards - it's also very odd not to keep a receipt for a $1000 expense. Depending on your tax bracket, between local, state, federal income taxes, FICA, etc. you can end up paying $400-500 in taxes where it wasn't needful.

Also Julia C has not answered my question posted on her thread: is your husband allowed to use "your" credit card or not for the reptile business?

 

[ElexisC]

Yeah yeah. Every story has 2 sides. I read hers too!!!! That's why I said what I said.
Jason Ciccone aka Jay McKnight aka Jay Sick ripped me off for $950. There's no way to spin it. You can try as hard as you want. I'm cool with 99.9999999% knowing the truth.

You also lied. So how do we know what you're saying is true? That's my point. That's why I asked them for the photos they said you sent them that you said you didn't have. You also left out a good chunk of information and it really looked on your favor till that stuff got posted

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[Craig Wyatt]

I have issues with this & the fact that he refused to send proof when he was able to ... now he is conveniently banned and his wife is answering for him.
In addition to the fact he could've been posting here, yet drug up 2 long dead threads about Craig.

I do have issue of Craig picking & choosing which texts/emails to share and the picture issue … there was/is pictures of the animals sent.

Julia, why did Jay not send pictures of the "sick" chams to Craig? Why are you not posting up those same pictures where they can be scrutinized? I don't think they show what you both are claiming.
I did watch one of the mp4s; however, chams walk funny on flat surfaces, so that really doesn't prove anything.

I hear ya and now understand about the texts. I wasn't picking and choosing I just started from the exact moment Jay received the animals. I didn't even think to post the rest. But as soon as elexis tried to make it look like I was hiding something I figured I'd better just post them all. I've seen her work. She is a master spinner.
No matter what there is only one truth. Not my side and his. Just the truth. I hope I made it a whole lot more clear.

 

[Craig Wyatt]

I will agree with this. Since they claim to have a small business - as shown in the texts posted by Craig during the issues with running the credit cards - it's also very odd not to keep a receipt for a $1000 expense. Depending on your tax bracket, between local, state, federal income taxes, FICA, etc. you can end up paying $400-500 in taxes where it wasn't needful.

Also Julia C has not answered my question posted on her thread: is your husband allowed to use "your" credit card or not for the reptile business?

I have a feeling Julia Ciccone isn't going to answer much of anything from here. This kitchen is super hot!!!

 

[Big Time Reptiles]

But what a way to take the attention off of you and put it on me with your made up version of that thread.

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It's plain to see, Craig doesn't have to take the attention off himself, he's done nothing wrong, he was ripped off, by yet another scammer among us!

As far as your comments & opinions, I, like many others, just consider the source.

Again, I hope everything works out for you Craig, God knows, you don't deserve what Jay is doing to you!

Just MY opinion....

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

 

[ElexisC]

I hear ya and now understand about the texts. I wasn't picking and choosing I just started from the exact moment Jay received the animals. I didn't even think to post the rest. But as soon as elexis tried to make it look like I was hiding something I figured I'd better just post them all. I've seen her work. She is a master spinner.
No matter what there is only one truth. Not my side and his. Just the truth. I hope I made it a whole lot more clear.

People say the same about Lucille, and the full texts being posted is important regardless if you look bad in them. You not posting them after several people asked was looking very suspicious especially when I read the entire thread and saw how you said one thing but the texts say another.

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[ElexisC]

It's plain to see, Craig doesn't have to take the attention off himself, he's done nothing wrong, he was ripped off, by yet another scammer among us!

As far as your comments & opinions, I, like many others, just consider the source.

Again, I hope everything works out for you Craig, God knows, you don't deserve what Jay is doing to you!

Just MY opinion....

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

Not sure what kind of insult you're inferring with that "consider the source" crap. I have done nothing wrong on this board. Ever. Unless voicing my opinion and how it looks from my end which everyone has the right to do, is wrong. Stop the personal attacks. Everyone. Not sure why I'm the subject of 3 or 4 people one being the guy I caught in a lie, 2 I've made opinions about their behavior in one thread and they keep dragging it into every single thread the see me on, and another Ive never even spoken to before. Knock it off.

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[Chris Kennard]

But what a way to take the attention off of you and put it on me with your made up version of that thread.

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LOL! You injected yourself into this thread with...how many posts? You got the attention you are starving for. Embrace it. Good or bad.

 

[Lucille]

People say the same about Lucille,

It is perfectly OK to ask Craig about photos and emails and he understands that..as he said, there is only one truth. It is not OK to turn this into a drama fest and involve long ago threads.

I am hoping that Julia will answer the question about the credit card.

 

[Craig Wyatt]

LOL! You injected yourself into this thread with...how many posts? You got the attention you are starving for. Embrace it. Good or bad.

Well said!!

 

[Craig Wyatt]

It's plain to see, Craig doesn't have to take the attention off himself, he's done nothing wrong, he was ripped off, by yet another scammer among us!

As far as your comments & opinions, I, like many others, just consider the source.

Again, I hope everything works out for you Craig, God knows, you don't deserve what Jay is doing to you!

Just MY opinion....

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

Lynn I appreciate your support. Your a good dude and thank you for your comments.
Eventually Karma will bite Jay right in the butt. He has a rude awakening coming. The universe has a way of working it self out in the end.

 

[Craig Wyatt]

It is perfectly OK to ask Craig about photos and emails and he understands that..as he said, there is only one truth. It is not OK to turn this into a drama fest and involve long ago threads.

I am hoping that Julia will answer the question about the credit card.

I hope she comes back too.