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Craig,


            I dont think that Chris is complaining he wasnt compensated for the sick snakes, Unless I am wrong the reason he is continuing with this is to receive money for the vet bills incurred from the original animals, which Bill Cagle said he would take care of ( or some part of ).  I dont think that Chris is wanting new animals from Bill Cagle.  And before I forget I saw the other post Chris and I am not jumping dowwn your back, I feel bad for you dude its just this should all conclude and there really isnt a valid reason that it still is going on, but Bill now says he wants the animal or the skin back or some way to positively identify the animal diagnosed with IBD is indeed the animal he sold to you, he really should have done that a  long time ago.  When I said you need to get off your soapbox I meant how you were freaking out at Bill's request and Jason's comments.  You were coming off like a kid who was told to go to bed early without any supper, instead of handling things correctly.  If I was in your shoes I would have been to say the least irate about the whole situation.  Anyway no hard feelings huh ?


Gary Walsch
Sunshine State Reptiles
 
Hey no hard feelings...I got the skin and pics today...how do I post them...what is a good webpare to use???
 
SOMEONE TELL CHRIS HOW TO POST THE STUFF!!
wait chris how did u post the original ibd report? cant you do the same thing?
 
I don't know...printshop.com?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  I cant find the page...I just got on print room but I'm messing up the url....so if you got a idea let me know.....
 
ok here it is....what a gross thing to do!!!!


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I am no expert....I di not play one on TV.....I did not even stay in a holiday inn lately.

But THAT sure is the same snake....

in my little nobody's humble opinion.
okay what know?
 
Humble opinion, MY BUTT!! Ritchie...if you're gonna give your opinion...at least do it with conviction!! Like this....THAT IS THE SAME SNAKE!! PERIOD!! The fourth white crossbar on the tail has the same "v" notch in it, and the red-stripe pattern on the tail is identical! SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM??? ....Neil
 
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oh my..that is so sad..that was really a nice snake.
and it does look like the same snake to me.
too bad..so sorry to see such a beautiful animal dead or any animal for that matter but seeing it has a greater impact on the situation.
thanks chris..that solves problem one. whether it was cagles snake or not.
sorry again.
 
I agree...with everyone else...looks like the same snake to me... I counted the red markings on the tail and matched up the patterns...looks exactly the same...

I also agree...sad thing to see...

but at least the mystery is solved as to the snake being the same snake and whether or not it was really dead.

Celia Chien
 
Well it looks like the same snake to me as well and I see no reason why Bill shouldnt settle this once and for all as long as he admits that the snake in the picture is indeed the snake he sold Chris. In my humble opinion thats the same snake and unless Chris had a beautiful animal like that and butchered it so he could take pictures of a skin on a sidewalk( which I would bet is not the case here ) Then this whole nightmare should be over for Chris ..... FINALLY !!!!!  Bill .... PAY UP !


Gary Walsch
Sunshine State Reptiles
 
Sorry to see suach a pretty thing dead chris ... i hafta go with the majority here 1 + ! = 2 ... Bill the Ball is in your court now ....!
 
YES IT IS DEFINATLY THE SAME SNAKE I PURCHASED FROM DALE AT THE ATLANTA SHOW. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO NOTE THAT THE PIC IS THE SAME PIC THAT I RAN ON KINGSNAKE TO ADVERTISE THE SNAKE FOR SALE. SHE LOOKS HEALTHY IN THE PIC AND SEEMED HEALTHY TO ME. I AM SORRY YOU HAD A PROBLEM WITH HER. YOU ARE NOT AS DISHONEST AS I THOUGHT YOU WERE CHRIS. NOW YOU ONLY HAVE THREE OF MY SURINAMES FOR $420. THANKS AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS, FOR FINALLY GIVING US ALL SOME KIND OF PROOF THAT YOU DIDN'T KEEP ALL FOUR OF MY ANIMALS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE.
 
Bill you can't count the other snake Bill...you know it was sick and looked beat up....not only that it was a female when it was sold as a male....you told me to kill it..I gave it away to a non snake person to keep..so I have two snakes BILL!!!  not three I wish you would stop saying that it is starting to piss me off!!!  NOW....420.00 plus 200 in vet bills thats 620.00 Bill!!!  Are you going to pay for the vet bill are even part of it?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  What's your move Bill?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Oh...one more thing looks don't mean a thing...yea yea she looked ok in pictures...but in real life she moved like a slug....could not even turn her self over..so what's your point...do you think I gave her IBD and killed her in Two weeks I had her???  Take some blame Bill and man up!!!!
 
Bill.......You are truely ONE OF A KIND  , there is no other  person like you in the herp world thats for sure ... you asked for proff ... you  get  now just pay some portion if not all  of the guys damn vet bill thats all ya hafta do ? does it really matter how many snakes he got for any amont if 2 were sick? ... would it make you fell better to get say the other sick snake to add back toyour supreme quarantine house ?then he would have 2 of you snakes for $420.00 + $200 vet bill which when i add that up this means he payed $620.00 to get all this greif!?keep on keeping on Bill Cagle....
 
Well, I'M certainly NOT going to show MY ignorance by stating MY foolish and idiotic opinion, here!! That's why I got "Eddie"!! Pay the man his $200, Bill! ....Neil
 
i just want to say one more time to you chris and to bill cagle regardless of how it happened it is very sad ...and my deepest condolence.
such a shame we dont have an antiodote to ibd yet.
might be nice sometime soon to try to generate some money for whomever is working to find a cure or whatever to rid these poor animals of this awful disease..i for one would be more than happy to donate to that cause as im sure everyone that reads these posts would.
if anyone knows of what zoo or lab or where the research goes on would they please let us know??

lets try to fix the problem..
 
Dr. Elliott Jacobson
Box 100126
Department of Small Animal Clinical Sciences
College of Veterinary Medicine
University of Florida
Gainesville, Florida 32610
E-mail: [email protected]

I think this is the one.
 
How many different threads are there currently, pertaining to Chris Heinrich and Bill Cagle and IBD? It's getting quite stale reading several different threads about the same thing.  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
 
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