Carl, you make some very good points. I too feel there is far to much importation of several species, especially species that we know won't do well once they get here (adult balls, forest hingebacks, etc.) I would have to disagree w/ you about the care of amazon tree boas. It has been my experience that they are quite easy to care for, in fact they require less "work" than even a common burmese python. I think most people think they difficult because of their "skinny" apearance, which can be greatly exacerbated by a little dehydration (a condition most animals experience during the importation process). But of the hundred or so I have dealt w/ I have had only one death and right now I have one that is a bit of a picky feeder. Other than those two examples every single one have been great eaters and have adjusted to captivity quite well. They never really tame down but many people don't mind that about them.
Now back to cb vs. wc. I think we can agree that there are certain species that SHOULD not be imported. But there is very little we can do to stop that. Until Cites stops the exportation, I feel it is better that the animals come here, where they have at least a shot at being reproduced in captivity, rather than somewhere else where they would simply be dinner.
You state that few of the imported animals would make it into captive breeding programs, and that may be true. However, w/o importation and wc allowed expos NONE of them will, and we will be left w/ the gene pool we have now. And we all know the problems a limited gene pool represents. One-eyed albino boas, one-eye black-head pythons, zoos putting down Komodo Dragons because they are already "represented" in the gene pool?!?!? In fact many of these animals are in as much if not more danger in their home country than they are here, (apparently turtle meat tastes pretty good), so why not bring them over here and at least give them a shot?
I'll give one more example then await your reply, even right here at home we see restrictions on collecting on certain species. Yet at the same time we see the absolute destruction of their habitat allowed everyday. Here in FL two great examples are the Eastern Indigo and the FL Pine snake. You can't touch an indigo w/o federal permits. You can own only one FL pine. In both cases the animals are restricted because of #'s in the wild. I own a male FL pine and my wife owns a female if we breed them the instant the eggs hatch we are in violation of the law. I asked them, "well can't I just breed them and give the babies to you (Fish and Game) for release?" Their answer no! We go for hands-off type protection while at the same time giving the animals no shot at making it in the wild because of habitat destruction. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> How long do you think it would take the herp community to reproduce and raise, to breeding age 1000 indigos in capitvity? I think it would be a whole lot less time than what it takes in the wild, don't you?
Now back to cb vs. wc. I think we can agree that there are certain species that SHOULD not be imported. But there is very little we can do to stop that. Until Cites stops the exportation, I feel it is better that the animals come here, where they have at least a shot at being reproduced in captivity, rather than somewhere else where they would simply be dinner.
You state that few of the imported animals would make it into captive breeding programs, and that may be true. However, w/o importation and wc allowed expos NONE of them will, and we will be left w/ the gene pool we have now. And we all know the problems a limited gene pool represents. One-eyed albino boas, one-eye black-head pythons, zoos putting down Komodo Dragons because they are already "represented" in the gene pool?!?!? In fact many of these animals are in as much if not more danger in their home country than they are here, (apparently turtle meat tastes pretty good), so why not bring them over here and at least give them a shot?
I'll give one more example then await your reply, even right here at home we see restrictions on collecting on certain species. Yet at the same time we see the absolute destruction of their habitat allowed everyday. Here in FL two great examples are the Eastern Indigo and the FL Pine snake. You can't touch an indigo w/o federal permits. You can own only one FL pine. In both cases the animals are restricted because of #'s in the wild. I own a male FL pine and my wife owns a female if we breed them the instant the eggs hatch we are in violation of the law. I asked them, "well can't I just breed them and give the babies to you (Fish and Game) for release?" Their answer no! We go for hands-off type protection while at the same time giving the animals no shot at making it in the wild because of habitat destruction. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> How long do you think it would take the herp community to reproduce and raise, to breeding age 1000 indigos in capitvity? I think it would be a whole lot less time than what it takes in the wild, don't you?