Bad Guy Shannon Craft aka Crazysnakelady ripped half my collection off

[ophidile]

bleh, typo:
"You can ONLY guarantee their care if you're doing it yourself"

 

[GeckoRae]

Let this be a lesson. Your right.

I took everything I possibly could have loaded into my ford explorer. I had a 6ft neodesha, and a 4ft neo upon that on top of my truck, loaded down with clothes and etc... and what animals I could take, i used their cages as boxes for my other things...

I would have taken them all. I would have gone back to them. Its hard with 0 money. I just didnt think a friend would have done somthing like that....

 

[R. Eventide]

Okay, so you gave the snakes to a friend because you were going to work overseas, correct? But then, you didn't end up going overseas for some reason. Why didn't you take the snakes back as soon as you knew you weren't going overseas? If you can't take care of your own animals, then you should sell them and wait until you're financially stable before getting any more. Leaving them with a friend just because you can't take care of them (especially when the friend has financial issues as well) is kinda cheap...and a terrible way to treat a friend.

 

[shrap]

I think you're wrong for carrying this on endlessly. This was not a business deal, it was a friendship favor. Nothing about this arrangement worked out for either side; let it terminate the friendship if that's how you feel, but the 1/2 year long bashing crusade is totally inappropriate.

I dont. I think it is a nice insight into ones character. Which is very important when it comes to doing business with folks. Or not doing business with folks.

Regardless of what the situation may be in life you always have just two choices, either you do the right thing or you dont do the right thing. I think it is pretty obvious what choice was made here.

 

[catfish77]

I was just wandering if you were taking a job across seas,was it part time or was you giving her the snakes and when the job fell through, you wanted them back?

 

[GeckoRae]

The job overseas was KBR. I didnt go b.c. my Dad is Ill. Since 2004 when I enlisted into the army, I have been away from OK, my family especially my Dad since then. I felt it was probly the right thing to do when I found out this was happening, was to stay. The agreement was to care for the snakes while I was gone, she still knew that I possibly couldnt go, but I asked for 6 months, it wasnt even 4 months into it when she said she was done. Still those options were there for the animals to be fed, (ie ex boss that had the rodent farm who told me if she needed a tab that I could pay) she did not take him up on that.

Now you are getting into personal details, the point of this post was I lost my animals and everything that went with them to someone I trusted and thought was my friend. The resources were there, she simply chose not to give back my things. Even after someone had made arrangments to pick up, even after I asked for the amount due.

The moral of the story is: dont leave your things to be trusted with other people. Dont leave them with Shannon. It is simply about greed. She could have given me what was left back in april. When I asked. I spent a couple of years, a lot of time, heartache, and money into what I had. I am not asking for a pity party, I just want the reptile world to know.

To answer the question asked, no I never had her sign anything (I thought I could trust her)

 

[critical bill]

I am not asking for a pity party, I just want the reptile world to know.

Thanks for the warning and the very best of luck to you.

 

[catfish77]

i was not tring to get personal, i just was tring to figure out if she knew how long she was gonna have them,and you say she did. So i would think holding on to them for that long would of looked better to me. hope you all figure out a way to resolve this.

 

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RE: Shannon Craft AKA Crazysnakelady

i couldnt give a rats fucking ass what you think. i'll write as i please until otherwise told not to by management here.

Well that's the difference bewteen you and I. I chose to speak professionally and respectfully.

Thanks for the feedback though.

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I'm a long time close friend of both Sarah & Shannon and would love to see them be able to bury this thing and put it behind them.

 

[Lucille]

It really says a lot about someone to see how they communicate when they are under a bit of stress......

 

[critical bill]

RE: Shannon Craft AKA Crazysnakelady


Well that's the difference bewteen you and I. I chose to speak professionally and respectfully.

Thanks for the feedback though.

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I'm a long time close friend of both Sarah & Shannon and would love to see them be able to bury this thing and put it behind them.

For the small cost of a basic paid membership you would be able to see who actually wrote that feedback and not assume to think you know who wrote it.

Or I could save you the money and just tell you it was me. It was me. Now quit your crying like a little girl.

 

[TailsWithScales]

This is really sad. The parties involved can take that any way the want. To me this show major immaturity and inexperience on BOTH sides. One side for trusting someone without getting things in writing the other for not just the same thing but by taking on animals when it seems they already had a lot on their plate. BIG mistakes on both sides in many many ways.
Both of you seriously need to let it go. You both f-ed each other. You both were greedy and rude. You both took advantage of the other. I'm sorry but that's the truth as I see it. No offense but both of you need to grow up, act like adults and take your lickings and learn from the situation. Really stop at take a look at YOUR PART. Not she did this to me and blah blah blah. You did it to yourselves regardless. Grow up and own your own part.

 

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For the small cost of a basic paid membership you would be able to see who actually wrote that feedback and not assume to think you know who wrote it.

Or I could save you the money and just tell you it was me. It was me. Now quit your crying like a little girl.

I'm not crying, just pointing out a huge difference between you and me.

I realize this is your playground, and I'm just here visiting, but you and I clearly have two completlely different levels of conduct.

"and not assume to think you know who wrote it"....this came out of nowhere. I have no idea where you're going with this one?

 

[critical bill]

I'm not crying, just pointing out a huge difference between you and me. I realize this is your playground, and I'm just here visiting, but you and I clearly have two completlely different levels of conduct.

Yep...completely different levels....my playground....you V I S I T O R.....remember that.

 

[ForkedTung]

RE: Shannon Craft AKA Crazysnakelady


Well that's the difference bewteen you and I. I chose to speak professionally and respectfully.

Thanks for the feedback though.

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I'm a long time close friend of both Sarah & Shannon and would love to see them be able to bury this thing and put it behind them.

Mike, You are responsible for everything that is in your posts. Whether you wrote it or not! Public Profanity is highly discouraged on this site and or forum and posting what was meant for your eyes only especially without editing the profanity out of it is neither professional nor respectful.

 

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Yep...completely different levels....my playground....you V I S I T O R.....remember that.

HAHA...


You forgot the last part of my post...what was that about?

 

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Mike, You are responsible for everything that is in your posts. Whether you wrote it or not! Public Profanity is highly discouraged on this site and or forum and posting what was meant for your eyes only especially without editing the profanity out of it is neither professional nor respectful.

Yep, you're absolutely right. I should have thought of that. My apologies to all.

 

[critical bill]

You forgot the last part of my post...what was that about?

I'm known to snip out drivel to save time responding.

 

[Curious George]

Lucille writes (in response to a profane PM by another)
It really says a lot about someone to see how they communicate when they are under a bit of stress......

Quite frankly Lucille, it says alot about anyone how they react under stress in any circumstance, with a private PM being the least indicative of character, while deciding how to handle someone elses assets entrusted to you in an arrangement gone sour is of far greater weight. It was a private PM to a non-entity, and the non-entity decided to give it a bigger stage. What a tool.

"BoaKing" whatever your name is: For you to even post such an inconsequential PM shows a real lack of class. Heck, I thought the OP pulled her punches considering how you have inserted yourself here.

Shannon may have been a stand up friend initially, but in the end, showed a true lack of ethics when under stress. Don't know if she profited excessively from the sale of someone else's critters and cages when she felt taken advantage of, or just showed a reckless disregard for the assets of another, but its one of the two. She had legal obligations, and statutes to guide her if she felt she now possessed abandoned property, and ignored them. The legal, and best solution, was available, and Shannon ignored any sense of fairness in her non-legal solution. She would lose in any court if it was worth the effort to litigate, although the remedy would be less than claimed by the OP, and not worth the effort to pursue.

A friendship ruined, and assets and possesions lost, as a situation disintegrated step by step. What a waste.

 

[AbsoluteApril]

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"and not assume to think you know who wrote it"....this came out of nowhere. I have no idea where you're going with this one?

Hi Mike!

I think the confusion was because this "RE: Shannon Craft AKA Crazysnakelady" was written right above the comment. on my first reading I thought you meant that comment was from Shannon.

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