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Bad Guy snakelove321 aka tori day??? gravel male is not a gravel male

Damn. You got burnt. However, the price alone didn't make you question it being a true gravel? I have a breeder size gravel and there is no way I would sell him with a breeding size YB for $650 shipped. Too much potential with a real male gravel.
 
I just sent Tori a message in Facebook alerting her of this thread as well.
 

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No, spj I never got a chance to send the money. And I did question it, but it's not the first time I've seen someone do quick sales because they got what they wanted. It's rare and unlikely but it does happen.

And yes the number in the messages and the text number were both supposedly tory day. I don't have the original texts from over a month ago. But our first texts she did say she was selling the snakes for her husband, just as she said in the fauna messages. There is no way any of this was a mix up in any way shape or form.
 
nevmoy said:
Oh my god.... to make things worse!!! She sent me a photo of a highway that she said was produced by the "gravel".... it's the same high that was given to them from the original breeder to make up for the gravel/yellowbelly mix up!!!!!

What is wrong with this person?!?!?!

BEWARE OF TORY DAY
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I don't know why I didn't notice you saying this before, but really? After she posted the pics of the clutch from her "gravel" and getting called out, she sends you a pic of the replacement animal to prove it was a gravel? Wtf?

I don't know how else to view this, she obviously tried very hard to screw you over. Hopefully if she pulls it again this thread will come up...they usually do.
 
Mcmb, that one is harder to prove, as the first pic of the highway she sent me had a black spot towards the tail. and the last she sent didn't show that area of body. But if you over lap the heads, there is a distinct crooked Dimond shape at the base of the head that matches 100%. And all of it is just too big of a quancidence for me.

@ absoluteapril, I have the "delete old messages" option turned on, on my phone. So it only goes back to Thursday. Before that it was Tuesday when I asked if she could send me pics again. But these are all the texts I have between me and her. And again, yes she did she was snakelove321 from fauna, and she sells the s akes for her husband.
 

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Well, That last bit about the thread not opening up and stating she must be a registered member to view it is just a continuation of the dishonesty.

You don't need to be a registered member to view that ad or any of the ads.
 
I just to a look at her registration profile.

It's interesting that

snakelove321
snakelove321@yahoo.com
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/member.php?u=152710

her IP address is a match and only been used by one other account with the name

handsomesurfer321
mikeysgalaxy321@gmail.com
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/member.php?u=144935

The name on that account is anthony lee ramirez

That was until recently when "Tori" started this new user account which will be banned as soon as I'm done typing this post.

exotic321
[email protected]
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/member.php?u=153834
 
Was there ever a BOI posted for the other name? Maybe there is no "husband" and she created the new account under Tori Day to keep doing business.
 
Well I don't know what he did, but "handsomesurfer321" did something to make people upset with him.

So he does something to upset people and then hasn't logged on since January 9. Shortly after, his "wife" creates a new account to sell his snakes for him. Coincidence?
 

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Whoops, that should have been saved as a cropped image -.-. Not that there is any compromising information that I can see, but any way I can get a redo on that? -.-
 
Here's the picture I meant to post. Forgot that cropping in word doesn't save to a picture file.
 

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MCMB-2 said:
Well I don't know what he did, but "handsomesurfer321" did something to make people upset with him.

So he does something to upset people and then hasn't logged on since January 9. Shortly after, his "wife" creates a new account to sell his snakes for him. Coincidence?
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He tried to sell his snake by hijacking another person's ad with the same type for sale.

Also, another member had a ad up for the same morph he was trying to sell and there was a little exchange on the other person's ad that may have resulted in several people not liking the exchange.

Those are probably the reasons why he upset a few people.
 
Dennis Hultman said:
He tried to sell his snake by hijacking another person's ad with the same type for sale.

Also, another member had a ad up for the same morph he was trying to sell and there was a little exchange on the other person's ad that may have resulted in several people not liking the exchange.

Those are probably the reasons why he upset a few people.
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Those ads have since been deleted by those that posted them so his posts don't show up under his post counts.
 
Dennis Hultman said:
Those ads have since been deleted by those that posted them so his posts don't show up under his post counts.
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That's what I figured, I was sure someone would have heard of him though. That would explain why Tori Day was selling the snakes for her husband. I remember when she said it that it struck me as odd, but now it makes more sense. He probably figured someone with a clean slate would have better luck selling than he would.
 
This thread calls "Tori's" first one into question for me. Has anyone confirmed the original misidentification with The Gourmet Rodent (if that's even the breeder they dealt with and it wasn't resold through someone else)? Normally I'd consider it too reckless a move to blatantly lie about something that could easily be verified, but given the current situation, what do I know?
 
The accounts you all are talking about belong to Michael Anthony Hernandez- he is a known user and con artist- He was using a few women at the same time - took one for over 10,000. His birthday is 01/22/1981 and he is a registered sex offender in florida- tori is his wife- how ever they are not really together. he is currently going to court for breaking and entering and stealing- snakes from some one else. He goes by mike ramirez, anthony ramirez, anthony lee, stacey ramirez- and his wife- tori day- does know what he is up to. anyone want his address and phone numbers? i have both of them. He lives in brevard county- titusville fl to be exact
 
Wondering if I'm dealing with the same person right now....... Can someone PM me? Can you even do that on here?
 
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