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Bad Guy Snakes at Sunset (Miami)
- Thread starter IvoryExotics
- Start date
They can be. Especially if they've been sitting there feeding.
LauraB
CLOSED ACCOUNT
I agree. Way too big unless they're mites on steroids! And yeah, definitely lose the shed in the enclosure ... especially when that snake should be quarantined in the first place and not a conduit for parasite transportation, nor a conversation piece.
hupababy_83
Rep lover
Oh that poor baby! Makes me itch! They look big enough to PICK off so why is no one picking? Thank you someone for me never dealing with those.
Now S@S I just don't understand why you would leave a dirty shed in a tank with a new import. Couldn't the scent stress the new snake for one? I ask because I would never do that and I'm still a weebit new, but I try to give all my snakes clean safe and non stressing environments. Smelling another snake in my home would stress me out after being in a box!
Now S@S I just don't understand why you would leave a dirty shed in a tank with a new import. Couldn't the scent stress the new snake for one? I ask because I would never do that and I'm still a weebit new, but I try to give all my snakes clean safe and non stressing environments. Smelling another snake in my home would stress me out after being in a box!
ReptileAddictions
The ONLY Reptile Store in
I have never seen wc long term mites. But mites in general grow as they gorge. It's safe to assume those are very fat and happy mites.
On a lighter note " holy cow mom look it's a yellow snake in a smiley face" is usually the eye catcher at my store! No shed needed! On a serious note I wouldn't want to use gimicks to try to sell a condro to someone who doesn't know has never seen a shed.
Again, my input in this thread is the same as above .... The husbandry and quarantine. You thought I had purcahsed from you before, if I would now would be based solely how you responded here about your husbandry and quarantine.
Besides a store with 250000 worth of animals I have a house, if I have a problem I take it home where the collection I can't afford to replace is not in jeopardy!
On a lighter note " holy cow mom look it's a yellow snake in a smiley face" is usually the eye catcher at my store! No shed needed! On a serious note I wouldn't want to use gimicks to try to sell a condro to someone who doesn't know has never seen a shed.
Again, my input in this thread is the same as above .... The husbandry and quarantine. You thought I had purcahsed from you before, if I would now would be based solely how you responded here about your husbandry and quarantine.
Besides a store with 250000 worth of animals I have a house, if I have a problem I take it home where the collection I can't afford to replace is not in jeopardy!
IvoryExotics
New member
Sorry, I have not had a chance to get back on til now. If anyone has any other questions for me Im more than happy to answer.
No, you told me a customer dropped him off. Thats it. I assumed it had been a while because there were two sheds in the cage and I highly doubt you transferred the snake and both sheds into the cage. You also specifically said he was for sale, as is.
No he wasnt, he wasnt more than 5 feet from other animals in the store. That is not separate.
That is a great thing to do, but an animal in that condition should not be for sale. The cage was clearly marked Sorong, $300.
Per display enclosure, but there were multiple cages of animals for sale that were crammed. Also note, I did not say ALL.
I am repeated exactly what you said, maybe it just sounds worse when typed?
I disagree, Ive used provent a mite with gtps and other delicate snakes. This post is not that you had mites in your store, it is that you were willingly selling untreated snakes.
One or two mites, I would agree with you. This was much more than that. With the mites and plus the shed it was obvious it was not being treated (and if the shed was left over from a previous snake I dont even want to talk about sanitation issues).
I am. Im hoping that if nothing less, now at least the animal is getting treated. Healthy animals are the hobby.
As far as I know, the snake was for sale (as I said in the first post, I was specifically told the snake was being sold as is...so I assumed that really meant as is).
No, you told me a customer dropped him off. Thats it. I assumed it had been a while because there were two sheds in the cage and I highly doubt you transferred the snake and both sheds into the cage. You also specifically said he was for sale, as is.
No he wasnt, he wasnt more than 5 feet from other animals in the store. That is not separate.
That is a great thing to do, but an animal in that condition should not be for sale. The cage was clearly marked Sorong, $300.
Per display enclosure, but there were multiple cages of animals for sale that were crammed. Also note, I did not say ALL.
I am repeated exactly what you said, maybe it just sounds worse when typed?
I disagree, Ive used provent a mite with gtps and other delicate snakes. This post is not that you had mites in your store, it is that you were willingly selling untreated snakes.
One or two mites, I would agree with you. This was much more than that. With the mites and plus the shed it was obvious it was not being treated (and if the shed was left over from a previous snake I dont even want to talk about sanitation issues).
I am. Im hoping that if nothing less, now at least the animal is getting treated. Healthy animals are the hobby.
As far as I know, the snake was for sale (as I said in the first post, I was specifically told the snake was being sold as is...so I assumed that really meant as is).
Utta
HELL is my home
it looks like its the colour of the scale from the pic. the mites the OP could have seen may not have been captured in the pic it self, but Mike has admitted there are mites on the GTP.
IvoryExotics
New member
Unfortunately for the snake, all of the black spots are mites. The snake had no black scales that I could see.
chris allen
Well-known member
I've never seen mites that big. It looks like black speckling on the python?
Snakesatsunset
Well-known member
Your lying about several things, the one that quirks me the most is the "as is". We dont sell snakes "as is" ever, and would never tell someone that.
Second, you know excatly where the snake is, and you know the only thing in that entire room is a burmese. You are forgetting to put the animal in the right place. You kow it, and are just pissed about something so are making things up.
Who ever said the shed was his shed? Like I said before it looks cool. Was not the MITE snakes shed. We have 2 other sorong chondros, one was which on display in that tank, and we took out to puut hte mite infested one in so it wouldnt spread mites everywhere. Understand? Or is that too complicated. Sheesh! lol. This is getting ridiculous.
Facts:
Snake had mites
SNAKE GOT THERE not too long before you did.
Snake was taken out of tree trunk, and replaced with mite filled snake to keep it sepereate from our for sale stock on the floor more then 20ft away, and the back room with our extra for sale stuff.
Snake has been treated, and so has tree trunk.
Mites nor any bug can travel in our store cause we are anal about it. We spray all corners, edges, crevices with prytherin. The only sectiont hat doesnt get sprayed is under the counter where we keep crickets.
Youve made the story distort itself so that your able to keep it posted. You never tried a transaction with us, nor were in any dealings with us. You straight out are lying about what you talked about with us by mentioning the snake had mites, and getting the response you claim you did which you didnt. You are also lying about "Cramped" cages. All our displays for lizards have only one in them, unless something small, so there are 4-5 animals. Like baby beardeds.
You also claim emaciated snakes, dirty cages, etc, which YOU know are all FALSE as can be. Ill post pics today to prove it. Animals can be clean one minute and dirty the next, when we notice, we go clean it. Simple as that.
YOUR LYING. We never offered him to you for sale, nor to anybody else. Never said sold as is, and never ever would sell a snake like that to anyone.
You have something against us for some reason so be it. But to lie and make stuff up? Ridiculous.
Second, you know excatly where the snake is, and you know the only thing in that entire room is a burmese. You are forgetting to put the animal in the right place. You kow it, and are just pissed about something so are making things up.
Who ever said the shed was his shed? Like I said before it looks cool. Was not the MITE snakes shed. We have 2 other sorong chondros, one was which on display in that tank, and we took out to puut hte mite infested one in so it wouldnt spread mites everywhere. Understand? Or is that too complicated. Sheesh! lol. This is getting ridiculous.
Facts:
Snake had mites
SNAKE GOT THERE not too long before you did.
Snake was taken out of tree trunk, and replaced with mite filled snake to keep it sepereate from our for sale stock on the floor more then 20ft away, and the back room with our extra for sale stuff.
Snake has been treated, and so has tree trunk.
Mites nor any bug can travel in our store cause we are anal about it. We spray all corners, edges, crevices with prytherin. The only sectiont hat doesnt get sprayed is under the counter where we keep crickets.
Youve made the story distort itself so that your able to keep it posted. You never tried a transaction with us, nor were in any dealings with us. You straight out are lying about what you talked about with us by mentioning the snake had mites, and getting the response you claim you did which you didnt. You are also lying about "Cramped" cages. All our displays for lizards have only one in them, unless something small, so there are 4-5 animals. Like baby beardeds.
You also claim emaciated snakes, dirty cages, etc, which YOU know are all FALSE as can be. Ill post pics today to prove it. Animals can be clean one minute and dirty the next, when we notice, we go clean it. Simple as that.
YOUR LYING. We never offered him to you for sale, nor to anybody else. Never said sold as is, and never ever would sell a snake like that to anyone.
You have something against us for some reason so be it. But to lie and make stuff up? Ridiculous.
Snakesatsunset
Well-known member
hupbaby- not really, snakes can actually be quite curious. Another snake shed might make it inquisitive and show you some neat behaviors. I do not recomend using a different snake shed though, we leave them with the snake that had it.
SERPENTS DEN
New member
Those are mites whom had a good meal. That snake should have been put in a separate container and treated and out of view from customers.
Snakesatsunset
Well-known member
herpman- reason it was in tree trunk was becuase there was nowhere else to put him due to the fact that anywhere else in the store, backroom, front, would run the risk of spreading the mites. We are on top of it! Just had no option to put it anywhere. I cannot close midday and take it "home" or elsewhere. No one asked about time frame, whos shed was in the display, was the snake being treated, our mite protocols, etc. Everyone ASSUMES. 
I am not worried as I know it is under control with an isolated incident. That incident was taken care of, just happens to be no more then 30 minutes after it arrived, another incident showed up! the OP! who blatantly lying cuase she feels like there is something stupendous to gain and believes we are torturing animals and purposefully spreading mites everywhere, and emaciating our burmese!
I am not worried as I know it is under control with an isolated incident. That incident was taken care of, just happens to be no more then 30 minutes after it arrived, another incident showed up! the OP! who blatantly lying cuase she feels like there is something stupendous to gain and believes we are torturing animals and purposefully spreading mites everywhere, and emaciating our burmese!
Snakesatsunset
Well-known member
It was seperated and treated, just happened to be in that cage for her to see it in less then an hour or two time frame.
Utta
HELL is my home
a little off topic and im sorry, but why would you take the snake in, if you knew(or should have at least assumed) it was covered in mites, if you didn't have anywhere to put it?
SERPENTS DEN
New member
Snakesatsunset
Well-known member
yes, very much so. We didnt notice a mite on it, till we closer inspected it for setting it up, then noticed a few. So we had no option but to put it there, or we could have run the risk of spreading mites in our store.
DD Reptiles
New member
I have purchased a number of Uroplatus (geckos) from Mike over the past year or so, including 11 geckos last week. The animals are always in good condition and I haven't lost one in the acclimation process. I have also naver had mites on any of them (something I have gotten on Uroplatus from other importers). I wouldn't hesitate to do business with Mike again; although I don't know where I could fit another fimbriatus
If it means anything I have visited the store earlier this year.
If it means anything I have visited the store earlier this year.
dragonluver83
New member
Theres alot of mites on that snake not to notice them or even to say there was only a few! And to say that you need to inspect closer. Those things are so big, some people are having a hard time believing there even mites.
Your not dealing with normal everyday customers that like to look at sheds in a cage. Most of us are well educated with our reptiles and potential problems with our reptiles. Also most of us know when were being fed a bunch of crap. Your on the b.o.i. your not dealing with a uneducated customer in the store. So careful on how you deal with this problem.
dragonluver83
New member
I have purchased a number of Uroplatus (geckos) from Mike over the past year or so, including 11 geckos last week. The animals are always in good condition and I haven't lost one in the acclimation process. I have also naver had mites on any of them (something I have gotten on Uroplatus from other importers). I wouldn't hesitate to do business with Mike again; although I don't know where I could fit another fimbriatus
If it means anything I have visited the store earlier this year.
Good, and if there are more people that have had a similar experience now would be a good time to speak up.
How did the store look when you went in there?
Imperial Reptiles
New member
THere have been 2 other people on this thread (one being myself) that have said that the animals that have come from MIke have been quality animals. I personally have been to the store countless times and I can say the store is always clean and animals are well cared for.