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Steve Clark of turtsandtorts- Reward offered

I know, I forgot to add that.
Either way, hes a crook, liar, and no good person.
Its a shame he sent out a female euro pond, out of the imports I have seen, 90% are females. If it was a male, I know there are desperate people out there looking for one that would have paid 250-350 for one.
I am pretty sure you cannot sell bogs out of PA, last I heard they are not issuing permits for them anymore, to easy to launder them.
Western Ponds, I was lucky enough to acquire 1.3 from a customer of mine who has raised them since they were 3" and sold them for $2,000 for the 1.3
They are protected in california, and very few people have colonies of them if anybody. Most people have small end colonies of only 1.2-3.1, etc
I was lucky to get my hands on the 4.
I can almost guarantee he didnt even know what he had, if it was a euro pond or a western pond.......he probably saw the first pic of one and the caption said western pond, and he advertised it as such,
I wouldnt doubt, either way hope everyone gets their problems resolved with him.
Hes no good, thats for sure.
 
steve

ur more than welcome to e-mail me all u want im not steve ..even if u want to call u more than welcome.but it will come as a shcocker since i live in SUNNY ol'e california..but ur more than welcome....my e-mail is [email protected]...e-mail me for my # also thnx.....wes
 
yeah right

How much did Steve pay you to be his friend and why is your username associated with a pornographic website.....you're as pathetic as he is. Be a man and post your phone # on the board.
 
what..??

Skinindustries is a free style motocross company based out of so cal...so get ur facts staight..he didnt pay me anything i was pleased what i payed for and was sent.It took me a while to get my snakes.AND IF U WANT TO CONTACT OR TALK TO ME THEN E-MAIL me..
 
That does not change the fact that your friend, Steve Clark is a Fu*&!ng con artist.
If you got what you ordered then you are probably the only one that has.

As far as your IP being in CA.... I all ready posted about how two E-mails from Steve Clark had CA. Ip's. Tracking your IP will only prove that you are in CA. It will not prove that you are not him.

If you are who you say you are...and Steve is such a good friend of yours... Why don't you call (YOUR FRIEND) and ask him why he has stolen from so many people. Then maybe you can have (YOUR FRIEND) repay the people he has ripped off.

After posting a reward I was contacted by several people with stories about Steve. I totaled up what every one said they gave Steve. That bastard has stolen around $2,135.00. this year alone. We just payed for his summer vacation.

After talking to his DAD, I found out that Steve does not keep any animals. Weather he is at his parents home or away for the summer, he doesn't have ANY animals in his possesion.
 
steve

i got my reps from him i never knew anythin about this i have seen him post on kingsnake time and time again so i thought he was doin good. if i may ask what did u order from steve..?..thnx wes
 
Just for the record Skin Industries is a legit company located in Southern California. It's in the same valley as we are.

Don't have any input on steve, just wanted to fill in on Skin Industries.
 
Skinindustries

Hey skinindustries.
Are you buy any chance the guy from Ca. that ordered venomous snakes from Steve?
I have to ask because Steve claimed to ship some hots to a guy named Wes.
 
Yes........I was about to ask something along the same lines. What reptiles did you order from Steve, Wes?

Billy Fraser
 
John, you need to post your full name on every BOI post.
 
SKININDUSTRIES

NO ..THE VENOMOUS LAWS HERE STATE THAT U CAN ONLY HAVE SOME OF THE LOCAL VENOMOUS WITH PERMITS ECT....but i have had venomous before when i lived in TX
 
Re: IP address

crickets_house said:
During the four months I was after him, I received two E-mails from Steve with a California IP address.
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BUSTED!!




Trey small
 
You might try AOL Messenger....

Hey,

You might want to try and contact him on aol messenger. I have talked with him a couple times on there. He was wanting to buy a large shipment of earthsnakes as feeders I guess? And he was trying to get me to buy some hots. I don't deal in hots. Anyways, just add him by his screename on aol, its turtsandtorts. Hope you all get back what is yours. REGARDS, Will H.

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Google.com keyword greenpinemuseum
 
Just got an E-mail from Steve

This is cut and paste strait from my E-mail.

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 00:13:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Possible item
To: "Some SMARTASS" <[email protected]>
From: "Steve Clark" <[email protected]> View Contact Details


John,

I wanted to ask you to stop posting this inacurate information on the
boards, you are fueling a fire of which is already blazing. Everything
has been resolved but one outstanding case which I am waiting for eggs
to pip.

Our transaction, although failed, was not 4 months long as you posted.
You sent the money to me on the 9th June, and I did not cash it for 3
or
so more days after it was received. The money order (refund) was
delivered to you on Friday, August 27th. That means it was not close
to
being 4 months.

I also never had even close to as many transactions started as I do
complaints on that ever so leiget board.

I am not sure that it was you who posted that a year ago I sent you 2
emails regarding things with my location tracing back to CA, if so then
that is also false as I never spoke to you prior to this year, let
alone
from a Cali IP.

As far as the red spitters they are licensed, and have export permits,
all the buyer would need is the needed import papers, and a venomous
permit for research or exhibit in Canada. You got back what was yours,
why do you continue to make more trouble for me?



This was my response......

Steve... You are a con artist...Wether it was your
intention from the begining or not, that is what
you've become.
You lied to me to get my money.
You lied about the condition of the snakes.
You lied to me about when I would be payed off.
This info is acurate. I have your own E-mails to
prove it.
I am not causing trouble for you...You did this to
yourself. I did not ad fuel to any fire. You have
been feeding the flames everytime you cheated someone.
From the number of people that are pissed at you, it
seems you have been feeding them for a while. It
looks like your decisions are coming back to burn your
ass.
If anything you should thank me for helping to
motivate you to fix your problems.
You were 12 days short of 4 months. I have a strong
feeling that I would still be waiting if I had not
contacted your parents. If it makes you feel better, I
can start typing 3.5 instead of 4.
You claim that everything is resolved. Did you learn
your lesson? Are you going to continue to take money
for animals you don't have? Can you really say that
you don't owe anything to anybody? After the last 3.5
months it is hard for me to believe that you learned
you lesson that easily.

I hope you get every thing cleared up.
Good luck, and have a nice day.
John


SO...... How many of you got payed off?
 
2nd E-mail

steve send a second E-mail


Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 01:09:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Possible item
To: "Some SMARTASS" <[email protected]>
From: "Steve Clark" <[email protected]> View Contact Details


FYI 2 grand wouldn't pay my gas money, car insurance, or food, let
alone
my summer
Steve



Kind of sounds like bragging to me. What do you guy's think?
 
Steve will always be a scam artists

Hello,

Steve still owes my good friend Scott crone 700$ which steve took almost a year ago. Nothing has been done yet, he has talked with steve's mom. But we will see if anything comes about.
 
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