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Steve Clark of turtsandtorts- Reward offered

Re: Steve will always be a scam artist

Hello,

Steve still owes my good friend Scott crone 700$ which steve took almost a year ago. Nothing has been done yet, he has talked with steve's mom. But we will see if anything comes about. Stece clark is a no good liar, I have talked with him a few times and all he knows how to do is lie. If he asked you to take down your posts, I would post more up. People need to be able to see what kind of person he REALLY is.
 
contact info

Wow! More and more people that steve scammed keep crawling out of the woodwork. To make it easier for them to contact this scammer's parents, why dont one of you guys post both their address and phone number on here? Maybe, once mommy gets sick of hearing about all of her son's fraud, she will actually do something about it.

Has anyone filed with the FBI, yet? Or, has anyone phoned the police?
 
one more thing...

Little stevie certainly doesn't sound like he is denying owning the red spitters. Does anyone know the venomous laws in PA? If they are banned (of which I am almost certain), his local police department should be informed; them, and any relevant federal authorities.

The charges seem to be mounting. With any luck, we may be able to get this scammer in the slammer for the stat of his semester...
 
please..please..please!

Post this link on every reptile forum you can so that little Stevie doesn't do this to anyone else. From what I understand, he still has a kingsnake account, but after all of this, I'm sure he'll begin using another name....like SkinIndustries or something (see prior posts)...LOL

I did talk to his mom and she took my name, address and phone # as though it was "second nature" to her after apparently getting other calls from more victims of Steve's crimes.

Please, let's all work together to bring this crook down!

Allen Lloyd
 
There's no state laws on owning venomous reptiles in PA. It is more reliant on local and township ordinances/laws.

The only venomous species that PA laws covers are the native species(Timber Rattlers, Eastern Massasauga, and Northern Copperhead). A permit is needed for Timbers, Eastern Massasauga's are an Endangered Species, and Northern Copperheads can be owned by two individuals from the wild. The possession limit on native reptiles is 2 that are taken from within the state.
 
If you read this thread from start to finish you can find all the important contact info.


OH, Bye the way.
Even though I got my money back... I have been told (by both FBI and postoffice) that he will continue to be investigated for mail and internet fraud.
He made false and/or missleading statements about the animals and when they would be delivered. Then he was unwilling to return my money when I asked him too.
Since those false statements swayed my decision to place the order, FBI and the Post office can and will press charges for fraud.
He cashed the postal money order after admiting that he did not have the animals. This would have allowed them to get him for theft of postal money order. But, he did return my money so they may have to drop that charge.
Either way, they are both looking into him.

I like to think that he is just a stupid kid that got caught up in some <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>. I hope that all this will teach him to step up and except responsibility for his mistakes, and fix them as soon as possible.
If not... and it turns out that he is just a con artist I'm sure he will dig his own hole. He allready has a good start.
 
keep us posted....

crickets_house,

Please keep us posted. I'm going to report the fraud also in my dealing with him.

Let us know how the case turns out.


Allen Lloyd
 
I would like to apologize

I have been issued a profanity warning.
I would like to apologize to anyone I may have offended.

Thank you for your tolerance.
John Licata
 
Skinindustries

Hey a0l2210 Allen loyd get ur facts straight my name isnt the same as steves and if u have a problem with that u can e-mail and call me dont get pissed at me cause i didnt get "ripped"..so please watch what u say about other people cause i am not steve.....And out of curiosity have any of u ben able to contact steve...? : )
 
Contact with Steve

I just got another E-mail from Steve.

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:39:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Possible item
To: "Some SMARTASS" <[email protected]>
From: "Steve Clark" <[email protected]> View Contact Details


John,

On a brighter note the brokering is no longer happening, too many
variables (ie potential loss of animals from bites).

You have to understand that nearly everyone posting on the BOI I have
NEVER spoken with in my life. It just seems that this is continually
bringing splinters to the surface with people who have one never delt
with me, or two were previously satisfied with their animals.

And not bragging about the 2 grand not going far, just saying I have no
reason to take money for use as such, as it would be futile. All is
good though, only one transaction to be resolved. Allen Lloyd is
harping now over 40 bux that he blew. I can't believe thet guy...

Take care!

-Steve Clark


skinidustries I am not saying that you are Steve, but it is kind of funny that your posts have shown up right after I received E-mail from Steve. it is allmost as if you and he are logging on at the same time.
Would you be willing to post your number here?
I also know that steve is aware of this thread and seems to be following it. It is stange that that he has not appeared here to defend himself. At least not as himself.
It doesn't really matter anyways. we are here to talk about Steve Clark. not Skinindustries.
 
almost there...

As of now, 2:45 EST, I note that little stevie is in fact logged into this site.

stevie, are you man enough to address these charges on this (very public) forum? I wont hold my breath.

Jeff, thanks for letting me know about PAs venomous laws. Although, I am wondering about those of his town. I think that
I will send a not-so-anonymous to his local police department. A link to this thread should certainly interest them.
 
Skinindustries

cricket_house if u think im steve ur more than welcome to e-mail me at [email protected] or Skinindustries@yahoo e-mail me ur # and ill call u i dont want to post my # cause i dont want 100's of people asking me stuff and explaining to people i dont know about stuff that isnt 2 important..thnx wes
 
scam artist

To address the email from Steve to crickets_house, yes I am harping over $40 that I had to spend to send back a dead turtle to Steve that he later admitted wasn't what I ordered. To make matters worse, as you'll see in the photo, he falsely labeled it a Western Pond turtle (even by it's scientific name) and then in the attached email that I posted, he admits it was a Euro.

I have sent several emails to Steve and he has yet to address the subject above. Why?? Because he's a con artist and I'll see to it that he is not welcome in this wonderful hobby of reptiles.

Everyone, go back and read my post with the photo from Steve on it . This is called mail fraud and I have all the necessary documentation that I am fowarding to USPS and FBI.

There is a pattern here Steve, and you're consistently scamming people with animals you don't own and money you don't pay that is owed.

Also, Steve told me on Wed in his email that no one is owed money and then he tell crickets_house that he has one outstanding debt. This guy is worse than Scott Peterson!

Allen Lloyd
 
Sure thing

Hey skin.
I have nothing to hide. I'm not afraid to answer questions either. I'll even post my number in an open forum.
Feel free to call 1-316-283-3440

If you don't mind shareing with the group.... What do you feel the need to contact me about?

If I can help anyone else, or if you have any questions I might be able to answer call me.
Collect calls, and blocked calls will not be answered. If I don't answer please leave a message.
 
Money Sent?!?!

Too anybody that might care, Steve "got" a check on friday, and said he sent the money out yesterday. So... I should be getting my $700 bucks back by this Tuesday or Wednesday. We'll see if he redeemed himself.

I wonder where the magic, "Save me" check came from?...Lol

I will post here when my money is received.


Scott
 
Hey scott. Good luck. I hope all goes wells.



What happened to skinindustries? After all the harpinig about not being Steve, and asking for my number, "so he could talk to me" I never heard from him. By phone or on here.
 
SKINIDUSTRIES you might not be Steve, but

you must be related. you both seem to think that the rest of the world is here for your convenience.

You made a big deal about wanting to prove that you are not Steve Clark, but when given the oppurtunity to do so you bailed.

I am curious, What did you want to talk to me about? Why was it so important to get my number if your not going to bother calling?
OR are you the person that tried to call me using caller ID blocker?
I won't waist my trime with people that feel the need to find their Identity. My system will not let you in if you block your ID.
 
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